Jump to content


Photo

'Grand Prix' - the out-takes?


  • Please log in to reply
1478 replies to this topic

#501 Keir

Keir
  • Member

  • 5,213 posts
  • Joined: February 00

Posted 01 August 2005 - 17:23

What car were we talking about ?? Yellow ?? yellow what ??

Advertisement

#502 Rosemayer

Rosemayer
  • Member

  • 1,253 posts
  • Joined: April 04

Posted 01 August 2005 - 18:19

Rogers Lotus 16 had yellow wheels in the movie

#503 Pils1989

Pils1989
  • Member

  • 1,111 posts
  • Joined: December 02

Posted 01 August 2005 - 18:22

I'm saying that the car in the Stoddart Estate was a Lotus as I'm pretty sure seeing yellow wheel rims (?) but I don't have the movie on video tapes anymore and I can't verify.
Anyway, I'm sure I'm wrong.. it might have been a Ferrari!

:p

EDIT Thanks Rosemayer!

#504 Rob29

Rob29
  • Member

  • 3,090 posts
  • Joined: January 01

Posted 02 August 2005 - 07:54

Originally posted by Pils1989
I'm saying that the car in the Stoddart Estate was a Lotus as I'm pretty sure seeing yellow wheel rims (?) but I don't have the movie on video tapes anymore and I can't verify.
Anyway, I'm sure I'm wrong.. it might have been a Ferrari!

:p

EDIT Thanks Rosemayer!

Yes the car in the movie that 'Stoddart' drives at the estate on his return from hospital is cetainly an ex. Team Lotus 16-BRG with yellow wheels.Whether it was referred to as a 'Jordan BRM' I do not recall. Maybe it was implied that the 'Stoddarts' had always driven for 'Jordan'.?

#505 David Beard

David Beard
  • Member

  • 4,875 posts
  • Joined: July 02

Posted 02 August 2005 - 11:51

Originally posted by Rob29
Yes the car in the movie that 'Stoddart' drives at the estate on his return from hospital is cetainly an ex. Team Lotus 16-BRG with yellow wheels.Whether it was referred to as a 'Jordan BRM' I do not recall. Maybe it was implied that the 'Stoddarts' had always driven for 'Jordan'.?


It was chassis 365, then owned by Bill Wilks. I think it had white wheels at the time....

Full story here, of course ;)
http://www.dabgp.pwp...co.uk/gp16.html

#506 Keir

Keir
  • Member

  • 5,213 posts
  • Joined: February 00

Posted 02 August 2005 - 14:52

David,

You get ten out of ten for this one, Mate !!

When I click on the picture of the Lotus 16, it does not enlarge, is that correct ??

#507 Pils1989

Pils1989
  • Member

  • 1,111 posts
  • Joined: December 02

Posted 02 August 2005 - 14:59

Really interesting stuff, David.

#508 David Beard

David Beard
  • Member

  • 4,875 posts
  • Joined: July 02

Posted 02 August 2005 - 20:09

Originally posted by Pils1989
Really interesting stuff, David.


Thanks :)

White wheels......

Posted Image

Bill Wilks was the only 16 owner who ran with white wheels, and placed the racing number midships, as far as I know. (from the useless info dept)

#509 David Beard

David Beard
  • Member

  • 4,875 posts
  • Joined: July 02

Posted 02 August 2005 - 20:12

Originally posted by Keir
David,

You get ten out of ten for this one, Mate !!

When I click on the picture of the Lotus 16, it does not enlarge, is that correct ??


Not sure which pic you mean, Keir, but then my website is a in a state a disarray just now...

#510 Pils1989

Pils1989
  • Member

  • 1,111 posts
  • Joined: December 02

Posted 02 August 2005 - 20:14

Well, it's interesting to know it was a real Lotus and authentic racing numbers!

What about Gardner's Mustang featured in France? was it from Ford France?
I think it was a Fastback...

#511 Macca

Macca
  • Member

  • 3,298 posts
  • Joined: January 03

Posted 03 August 2005 - 12:38

Some information about Garner's Mustang here:

http://www.ponysite.de/grandprix.htm


Sorry to have generated so much heat with my little pic of Phillip Walker's Lotus 16; it just struck me how dark the green looked under the awning, and the wheels appeared silver...........so a bit of photoshopping swapped the badges and added the two dividers in the rad intake.

To all current and future historians:- it's just a film, there was no Roger Stoddard, and the Turner painting was fiction to suit the film script. :blush:



Paul M

#512 Pils1989

Pils1989
  • Member

  • 1,111 posts
  • Joined: December 02

Posted 03 August 2005 - 14:32

What? Fiction?? But... Have I been lied to during all that time???


Thank you for the link, I didn't know it was a Shelby.

#513 Keir

Keir
  • Member

  • 5,213 posts
  • Joined: February 00

Posted 03 August 2005 - 14:58

Next you'll be telling us there is no Santa !!

#514 Macca

Macca
  • Member

  • 3,298 posts
  • Joined: January 03

Posted 04 August 2005 - 10:45

No, I'd never do that - because then he might not visit me!

But can you scan or link to the 'Mad' spoof of GP that you mentioned in the 'other' thread?

Posted Image

"Don't look now, my fellow Monegasques, but I suspect someone has installed a discreet spy camera to look into our commentary box."

(pic from MGM cinema programme)


Paul M

#515 Keir

Keir
  • Member

  • 5,213 posts
  • Joined: February 00

Posted 04 August 2005 - 21:07

I do have the "MAD" spoof on my hard drive.

Send me an e-mail to kjdtrk@hotmail.com and off to you it will go !!

#516 Breadmaster

Breadmaster
  • Member

  • 2,501 posts
  • Joined: May 01

Posted 05 August 2005 - 14:41

I found this today - i can't remember it being mentioned on any of the Grand Prix threads - ahem

http://www.putgrandp...com/default.asp

:up:

#517 Macca

Macca
  • Member

  • 3,298 posts
  • Joined: January 03

Posted 05 August 2005 - 14:59

http://forums.atlasf...&threadid=81101

:lol:

No, it had its own special thread!




Paul M

#518 smithy

smithy
  • Member

  • 2,459 posts
  • Joined: March 03

Posted 12 August 2005 - 01:15

Jessica Walter Alert
I'm posting this in both threads because I can't remember which one is where we talk about this stuff. Apologies if it's already been mentioned.

Jessica Walter plays Lucille Bluth in "Arrested Development". For Australian viewers you can see her at 8:00pm weeknights on The Comedy Channel.

edit: Only this thread required... it therefore appears at the top. Is there a headslap smilie?

Posted Image
from: www.imdb.com

#519 Breadmaster

Breadmaster
  • Member

  • 2,501 posts
  • Joined: May 01

Posted 12 August 2005 - 09:05

Originally posted by Macca
:lol:

No, it had its own special thread!

Paul M


Doh!

at least i wasn't so daft that i'd replied to that thread then forgot....!

Advertisement

#520 Keir

Keir
  • Member

  • 5,213 posts
  • Joined: February 00

Posted 12 August 2005 - 18:54

Jess says, "Like hell you didn't !!"

#521 Macca

Macca
  • Member

  • 3,298 posts
  • Joined: January 03

Posted 23 August 2005 - 10:52

She's definitely still got that 'Misty' look in her eye!

:lol:

I go away for a few days and this thread slips over the horizon.............I'll find some more pictures.


Paul M

#522 Macca

Macca
  • Member

  • 3,298 posts
  • Joined: January 03

Posted 25 August 2005 - 15:43

Posted Image

Another out-take, from the early part of a GP - which?


Paul M

#523 Macca

Macca
  • Member

  • 3,298 posts
  • Joined: January 03

Posted 30 August 2005 - 11:18

Here's another clue:

Posted Image

Paul M

#524 Macca

Macca
  • Member

  • 3,298 posts
  • Joined: January 03

Posted 05 September 2005 - 14:29

Come on Keir, surely you know.............

Last clue.............the film version, without the railway line beside the track (who needs a helicopter anyway?)

Posted Image

Paul M

#525 Keir

Keir
  • Member

  • 5,213 posts
  • Joined: February 00

Posted 05 September 2005 - 18:26

Spa 66 ???

#526 Macca

Macca
  • Member

  • 3,298 posts
  • Joined: January 03

Posted 06 September 2005 - 14:50

Yup..........Bob Bondurant in a BRM p261, repainted just before the race in McLaren's colours and number after McLaren had his Serenissima engine fail in practise; what really happened to him after half a lap, which was a bit unfortunate after all that effort; and the movie version.

:up:



Paul M

#527 Keir

Keir
  • Member

  • 5,213 posts
  • Joined: February 00

Posted 06 September 2005 - 15:43

Did Bob wear the Aron lid ???

#528 Macca

Macca
  • Member

  • 3,298 posts
  • Joined: January 03

Posted 06 September 2005 - 16:02

http://schlegelmilch...332-66BE-07.jpg


Yes - but not for long!


Paul M

#529 Keir

Keir
  • Member

  • 5,213 posts
  • Joined: February 00

Posted 07 September 2005 - 16:16

Sadly, after giving us his truly great photos untouched, Rainer has now put the "dreaded" watermark on his pics.

It just ruins the whole pic !!! :cry:

#530 Ivan

Ivan
  • Member

  • 6,646 posts
  • Joined: March 99

Posted 07 September 2005 - 23:31

Keir,
I think you are crying wolf... it's just on the bottom left corner and not really "in" the shot.

#531 Keir

Keir
  • Member

  • 5,213 posts
  • Joined: February 00

Posted 08 September 2005 - 16:02

Ivan,
Look a little bit closer. There is a watermark on the entire shot !!

#532 Macca

Macca
  • Member

  • 3,298 posts
  • Joined: January 03

Posted 09 September 2005 - 09:56

One thing about the version shown on terrestrial TV in the UK is how much it is cropped; this picture of Aron at Spa shows the front suspension, which is clearly an F1 Brabham, whereas when watching the movie the left-side of the frame had been trimmed off and the suspension couldn't be seen.

Posted Image

Lets hope that if they do bring it out on DVD they can find an original print rather than copying the video version.

Paul M

#533 Keir

Keir
  • Member

  • 5,213 posts
  • Joined: February 00

Posted 09 September 2005 - 15:33

Paul,
Which version do you prefer? I kind of like seeing the whole suspension !!

#534 Rob29

Rob29
  • Member

  • 3,090 posts
  • Joined: January 01

Posted 09 September 2005 - 16:52

Originally posted by Macca
One thing about the version shown on terrestrial TV in the UK is how much it is cropped; this picture of Aron at Spa shows the front suspension, which is clearly an F1 Brabham, whereas when watching the movie the left-side of the frame had been trimmed off and the suspension couldn't be seen.

Posted Image

Lets hope that if they do bring it out on DVD they can find an original print rather than copying the video version.

Paul M

Surely the problem here is the movie was made in Cinerama? I think I have seen it on TCM with the black borders filling more of the screen than the picture! Even with a 16:9 widescreen you are going to have problems?

#535 maczippy

maczippy
  • Member

  • 1,351 posts
  • Joined: October 03

Posted 09 September 2005 - 18:40

Originally posted by Gary C
I agree, that's not the Jack Watson I know!


No! He used to come round to visit my grandad (they were good friends) from time to time and watch rugby in Bath!

(Sorry, just catching up with this thread)

Andrew :)

#536 Macca

Macca
  • Member

  • 3,298 posts
  • Joined: January 03

Posted 20 September 2005 - 14:31

Signature seen at the Goodwood Revival on the dashboard of the Lotus 20 which came third in the Formula Junior race:

 

rvl20050409at.jpg

 

:D


Paul M


Edited by Macca, 10 September 2013 - 16:06.


#537 Gary C

Gary C
  • Member

  • 4,492 posts
  • Joined: January 01

Posted 20 September 2005 - 15:20

nice !

#538 Macca

Macca
  • Member

  • 3,298 posts
  • Joined: January 03

Posted 23 September 2005 - 14:23

Posted Image

That bloke in Pete Aron's helmet was out again in a Ferrari (a different one from the Festival) at Goodwood....................

Posted Image

and another bloke in Scott Stoddards............


;)



Paul M

Edited by Macca, 25 June 2012 - 15:27.


#539 Barry Boor

Barry Boor
  • Member

  • 10,768 posts
  • Joined: October 00

Posted 23 September 2005 - 15:24

I hope that geezer what nicked Scott Stoddard's helmet was severely castigated!

Advertisement

#540 Macca

Macca
  • Member

  • 3,298 posts
  • Joined: January 03

Posted 23 September 2005 - 15:32

Only if he did up his crutch straps too tight..........................


:lol:



Paul M

#541 D-Type

D-Type
  • Member

  • 7,900 posts
  • Joined: February 03

Posted 23 September 2005 - 21:13

Nice one Paul :rotfl:

#542 D-Type

D-Type
  • Member

  • 7,900 posts
  • Joined: February 03

Posted 23 September 2005 - 21:16

Thinks . . .

Next year is the anniversary of THE film. Does anybody connected with the Goodwood Festival read this fluff?

#543 Gary C

Gary C
  • Member

  • 4,492 posts
  • Joined: January 01

Posted 23 September 2005 - 21:25

Only Doug!! I've already suggested to him that they should try & get James Garner back into his car at the F.O.S. He'd CERTAINLY be up for it!

#544 Macca

Macca
  • Member

  • 3,298 posts
  • Joined: January 03

Posted 28 September 2005 - 12:28

And Brian Bedford (if he can drive now :D )

http://www.parkerart...es/bedford.html

He lives in the USA or Canada, apparently.



Paul M

#545 Keir

Keir
  • Member

  • 5,213 posts
  • Joined: February 00

Posted 28 September 2005 - 14:11

Sounds like a cracking good idea !!

#546 Macca

Macca
  • Member

  • 3,298 posts
  • Joined: January 03

Posted 29 September 2005 - 09:25

Of the drivers involved in driving the 'kiddy cars' or seen/heard in the film, most are sadly no longer with us.

However, there's Phil Hill, Bob Bondurant, Dan Gurney, Teddy Pillette and of course Chris Amon - not to mention Jim Russell......

So if they could all be reunited as well - and it would also be good to celebrate the 40th anniversary of one of CAA's greatest wins, Le Mans.



Paul M

#547 Vicuna

Vicuna
  • Member

  • 1,588 posts
  • Joined: March 02

Posted 29 September 2005 - 09:46

CAA was interviewed on radio on Monday here in NZ and spoke emotionally about that win with Bruce.

#548 Keir

Keir
  • Member

  • 5,213 posts
  • Joined: February 00

Posted 29 September 2005 - 17:10

Any way to get a transcript of the interview ??

#549 Pablo Vignone

Pablo Vignone
  • Member

  • 276 posts
  • Joined: April 04

Posted 03 October 2005 - 23:45

Today I found this: it was published in the argentinian magazine “Siete Días” on January 19, 1975 (some thirty years ago), and the words are from Juan Manuel Fangio (translating is mine, maybe not so good):
“Talking about movies, some years ago I worked for the film Grand Prix. To make a one-minute sequence we spend an entire morning. The scene was shot at the count Lurani’s castle. We were in a party and, every time we moved in front of the camera, a waiter gave me a glass with champagne: the scene was shot too many times that, at the end, with so many drinks, I felt like I was at home... I have nothing of an actor, but I was feeling lazy and happy with all the drinks that, when we finished, the director congratulates me, talking about my ductility for the camera. I was a very exhausting experience, so many people dressed with tuxedos and I don’t know why for, because they didn’t appeared in the film. People may think that movies are an easy thing to do, but that’s untrue: to me is easier to drive a car”.

#550 Macca

Macca
  • Member

  • 3,298 posts
  • Joined: January 03

Posted 06 October 2005 - 16:49

It's noticeable in the shot that was used how Bernard Cahier darts across right between the camera and Fangio; if that was the take they had to use, heaven knows how pushy and obtrusive Cahier was in the out-takes!


Meanwhile, the blog of Pete Aron conttinues to progress...................



Paul M