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#1501 Macca

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 21:38

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Interesting that Buzz Buzaglo drove the Lotus.

 

 

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#1502 Macca

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 09:49

That picture is Monza; on the right I can just see the tartan of a 'Stewart/Stoddart' helmet which might have been Rindt (too tall for Ginther who was the other stand-in).

 

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Phil Hill looking pensive while keeping the rain or sun off.

 

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#1503 D-Type

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 15:22

Totally OT. 

It looks as if that umbrella can double up as a shooting stick.  An ideal tool for spectating in typical British summer conditions.  Does anyone know if they're still made or who sells them?



#1504 Rob29

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 15:35

Totally OT. 

It looks as if that umbrella can double up as a shooting stick.  An ideal tool for spectating in typical British summer conditions.  Does anyone know if they're still made or who sells them?

Don't think they have been seen for many years-had one when I was younger-were in the colours of flag signals



#1505 Macca

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 20:10

Staying OT: they can be bought on the bay, cheap glassfibre one for £40 and posh (green) ones for £80+.

 

Back on topic:

 

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Garner, Frankenheimer, Pheeleel, and somebody else.

 

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#1506 Gary C

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 20:40

that would be Peter Revson on the far right.



#1507 JacnGille

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 01:07

that would be Peter Revson on the far right.

That what I thought.



#1508 MCS

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 06:31

Mike Spence behind the pointing finger?



#1509 bill p

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 07:21

Mike Spence behind the pointing finger?

 

Agreed !



#1510 Macca

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 10:21

https://www.motorspo...RMBodywork.html

 

I can't remember if that link has been posted before.

 

 

 

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Phil Hill, Jim Russell and Montand; possibly Bernard Cahier talking to the gent in the background.

 

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(edited to correct senior moment, one of many these days)


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#1511 dbltop

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 19:39

Looks like Tim Randolph talking to Sarti to me.



#1512 Macca

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 21:51

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Garner with Bob Bondurant.

 

 

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#1513 Macca

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 12:39

If there's anyone out there still interested, they may have noticed many pictures have disappeared due to the vagaries of the phot-hosting service I and others used. I have tried to replace them where I can so the thread makes some sense if anyone bothers to read it through, but there are still quite a lot to do.

 

Meanwhile:

 

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Garner at Monza

 

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Phil Hill perched on the GT40 at La Charade - is that Derek with him?

 

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Mme Sarti gets the chair at Monza while Lisa has to sit on the ground

 

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Another of Garner - I wonder what the scene was about; it was deleted.

 

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Phil Hill and (probably) Rindt at Monaco.

 

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Montand during training at Snetterton

 

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.......and two great men meeting.

 

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#1514 Tim Murray

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 12:56

The young lad in the photo with Phil Hill can't be Derek as he wasn't born until March 1975.

#1515 Macca

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 14:30

You're right; not Phil Hill's kin then, or Frankenheimer's as he had only daughters, but I know Eva-Marie Saint had her family with her during filming and her son would have been 11 in 1966 so he is a possibility.

 

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Another confirming picture of Spence at Monza when his car had been repainted after practise.

 

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Garner in his TV reporter blazer at La Charade and Frankenheimer wearing the helmet Garner wore when he tried the 'Spinner' rig. 

 

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EF: "You need to wear braces to be convincing as me."

 

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"Hold still Brian, while I squirt some more fake blood on you."

 

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 18:50

More great photos. Many thanks for keeping the thread alive and sharing them with us Paul.

 

John



#1517 Gary C

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 15:43

you want memorabilia, direct from the film set? You got it.

 

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....there may be a bit more along soon..................

(click on the pics for a larger image)


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#1518 Gary C

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 18:16

.....and one more................ Pic5csmall.jpg



#1519 Macca

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 20:29

I look forward to seeing any other memorabilia, or hearing any anecdotes from the owner. Meanwhile...

 

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Garner gets some grime applied in Monaco.

 

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#1520 Macca

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Posted 08 December 2014 - 11:23

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Good little story, and I didn't know about Gene Hackman having been a useful driver.

 

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#1521 dbltop

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 06:50

The U.S Grand Prix in the late seventies featured Pro/Am races in street Toyota Celicas. Hackman was entered in the pro category and did pretty well IIRC.



#1522 JacnGille

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 17:11

As I remember Hackman race a Formula Ford for awhile and maybe even talked about building his own FFs.



#1523 Manfred Cubenoggin

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Posted 09 December 2014 - 18:32

Long-since discarded so I have no reference material to lay my hands upon but I do remember a bit in Competition Press & Autoweek from, iirc, the late 60's or early 70's.  Most likely the 70's.  It featured some celebs dashing about in FF's at a school(Bondurant?)at, iirc, Sears Point.  Gene Hackman showed considerable skill and was far and away the fastest.  He really took to the challenge.  I only recall one other participant.  Clint Eastwood.  The article noted that he was very, very slow but as smooth as silk and once familiar with everything, showed the potential to be every bit as quick as Hackman if not better.



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Posted 09 December 2014 - 21:23

I was waiting for someone to come up with the old chestnut about Hackman doing his own driving in the film The French Connection. Some say yay, others say nay, but the comments so far suggest that he was perfectly capable. Whether his or the film company's insurance underwriters would have allowed it is another matter.

 

For those not interested in film matters, it is generally considered one of the best of the "film car chase" genre.



#1525 R.W. Mackenzie

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Posted 10 December 2014 - 01:42

I believe Hackman invested a significant amount of cash into the development of a Formula Ford called the "Carom". My recolection of the story I heard was that he decided after about $100,000 failed to produce an actual car, he pulled his support. Don't know what became of the car after that.



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Posted 10 December 2014 - 03:52

I believe Hackman invested a significant amount of cash into the development of a Formula Ford called the "Carom". My recolection of the story I heard was that he decided after about $100,000 failed to produce an actual car, he pulled his support. Don't know what became of the car after that.



#1527 RonPohl

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Posted 10 December 2014 - 03:54

Indeed, I also recall that Hackman developed a FF. It raced in Southern California. Can't recall who was the driver. Maybe Dick Fergusion?

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Posted 10 December 2014 - 05:35

A little off topic- but I checked Steve Nickless FF book- the Carom was partly funded by Hackman to the tune of $75,000. Crashed in its first race at Riverside and the project was abandoned. Driver was a Formula vee driver named Bob Campbell.

#1529 raceannouncer2003

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Posted 10 December 2014 - 06:38

Gene Hackman did a bit of long distance racing:

 

http://www.racingspo...ackman-USA.html

 

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#1530 Mallory Dan

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Posted 10 December 2014 - 13:35

Gene's son Chris was pretty quick in UK FF in 1980 - Royale RP26 



#1531 Philip Whiteman

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Posted 10 December 2014 - 14:13

I think you'll find stunt driver and actor Bud Hickman did the driving in 'The French Connection'. Movie buffs will recognise him as the hitman's getaway driver in Bullitt



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Posted 10 December 2014 - 15:18

I think you'll find stunt driver and actor Bud Hickman did the driving in 'The French Connection'. Movie buffs will recognise him as the hitman's getaway driver in Bullitt

That's what I think too, although some people believe the myth of Hackman being behind the wheel. The myth includes the notion that the high-speed chase was conducted and filmed whilst members of the public went about their daily business, unaware of the cameras. Now that's what I call risky.



#1533 275 GTB-4

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Posted 10 December 2014 - 22:02

I think you'll find stunt driver and actor Bud Hickman did the driving in 'The French Connection'. Movie buffs will recognise him as the hitman's getaway driver in Bullitt


Hickman, by all accounts, was a much loved, thorough gentleman who just had the face of gangster...

I like the stunt driving in The Burglars better than the French Connection though...



#1534 Macca

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Posted 11 December 2014 - 12:28

Meanwhile back with 'Grand Prix':

 

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Garner and Montand at Monaco.

 

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Yet another of Mlle Hardy snoozing at Clermont-Ferrand, in Brabham BT7 F1-2-63.

 

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And a picture of filming at Zandvoort with the real Bonnier and Rindt in Cooper-Maseratis behind the film mock-ups and course car.

 

Paul M



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Posted 11 December 2014 - 14:03

Meanwhile back with 'Grand Prix':


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Yet another of Mlle Hardy snoozing at Clermont-Ferrand, in Brabham BT7 F1-2-63.


 

Paul M

 

 And about time too!  After 20 posts I was beginning to suffer from FH deprivation.



#1536 275 GTB-4

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Posted 31 January 2015 - 21:06

We have just celebrated our national day in Australia...so I was pleased to come across this clip of Yves Montand sing Waltzing Matilda (one of our national songs)...a lovely voice


Edited by 275 GTB-4, 01 February 2015 - 21:34.


#1537 Macca

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 14:57

Missed a whole month - here are some more:

 

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Montand and Saint, but I don't know where.

 

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Shelby, Garner and Ginther at Watkins Glen...........but whose legs is Garner sitting on??

 

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and the obligatory one of FH at C-F.

 

 

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#1538 bradbury west

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 17:08

Paul, that looks like a young Tony Lanfranchi enjoying the view.
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#1539 Macca

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Posted 02 March 2015 - 14:21

Yes, I thought that too.

 

Did anyone else watch 'The Classic Car Show' on Channel 5 last Thursday? It featured Jodie Kidd holding the pit-board at last years Monaco Historique for a guy named John Romano, who was driving the ex-Duncan Dayton Brabham BT11 in the pre-'66 race. Romano, an American surgeon, said he was inspired to race one day by seeing 'Grand Prix' as a 12-year old (though he mis-remembered that it was Scott Stoddard who went in the harbour). 

 

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Meanwhile, here is Montand looking cool at Zandvoort.

 

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#1540 Barry Boor

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Posted 02 March 2015 - 14:31

I bet he has a cigarette in his right hand.

#1541 DoubleM

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Posted 02 March 2015 - 21:15

Just an amazing topic - have spent all day lost in nostalgia as I remember seeing Grand Prix when it came out at a cinema in St. Martin's Lane (also where I saw Battle of the Bulge on release).  Now the home of the ENO so no cultural uplift there then.  A comment on an earlier post remarked that the Nino Barlini character could have been based on Francois Cevert and this was shot down quite quickly....I always thought that there was more of the Jacky Ickx about him but that was maybe because he went on to have a few outings for Ferrari!

 

Sorry I don't have any Francoise Hardy pix to post but maybe some 'research' (an ever-popular activity) will unearth some.

 

Thanks again to the OP and all those who have contributed to this...but sometimes it has been almost impossible to completely identify which bits have been true and which fiction.

 

Mike.


Edited by DoubleM, 03 March 2015 - 00:12.


#1542 retriever

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Posted 02 March 2015 - 21:58

I too love this topic - whilst the film might have its flaws it continues to mature with age in comparison with today's serving of alcopop. It also has a great film score by Maurice Jarre and I for one appreciate that almost dream-like multi-screen sequence. John Frankenheimer directed some impressive films in his time.


Edited by retriever, 02 March 2015 - 22:22.


#1543 D-Type

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Posted 02 March 2015 - 22:07

It's incredible to think it will be 50 years old next year.  Whatever has happened to the last 20 years   :confused:



#1544 Manfred Cubenoggin

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Posted 02 March 2015 - 23:47

A HEADS-UP!

 

Airs tonight in North America on Turner Classic Movies @ 23:15 EST.  That's only a handful of hours from now.



#1545 DoubleM

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 00:20

It's incredible to think it will be 50 years old next year.  Whatever has happened to the last 20 years   :confused:

 

Whenever I wonder that I just look at my waist- and hair-line!  And the mirror's a no-no too.  Seriously, it does all seem like yesterday but weren't the cars beautiful before they started to sprout the aerodynamic appendages and commercial paint schemes?  Just a damn shame we had to wait for the commercial dynamic of the corporations to drive the investment and technology to save drivers from being barbecued or shattered almost every week-end - and yes, I know that was only because they demanded an end to such embarrassing scenes with cars bearing their corporate identity.  Lost too, too many fine chaps.

 

Mike



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Posted 03 March 2015 - 13:04

For those suffering with FH withdrawal symptoms, this link may lift the spirits:  http://www.unabashed...rancoise-hardy/

 

Apologies if it's been shared before, but I think it would be worth another outing.

 

JB



#1547 Peter Morley

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 14:17

Did see the Jodie/Quentin programme about Monaco, it was a bit disappointing to see a car capable of winning the race so far down the grid.

Jodie is an acceptable alternative to Ms Hardy but possibly better suited to silent movies!



#1548 Glengavel

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Posted 03 March 2015 - 15:24

Did see the Jodie/Quentin programme about Monaco, it was a bit disappointing to see a car capable of winning the race so far down the grid.

Jodie is an acceptable alternative to Ms Hardy but possibly better suited to silent movies!

 

Is the Brabham driver an ex-astronaut? He's obviously spent some time in a NASA centrifuge...