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'Grand Prix' - the out-takes?


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#1601 Gary C

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 22:12

well, it's nice to add a reply to this thread that I started all of 14 years ago! Take a look at this: http://www.coventryt...try-47-10133668

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#1602 Macca

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 14:07

Hello Gary - yes, but from another film!

 

So we'd better have another picture of Mlle.Hardy (in a fake Eagle again):

 

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And in this shot the journalist beside the car looks vaguely familiar, can anyone put a name to him:

 

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I can announce that I have found some pictures which prove the existence of yet another 'out-take', a filmed sequence that didn't make it into the final cut, which I will post soon. How I wish I could get a sight of an original shooting script.....

 

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#1603 LittleChris

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 19:56

Hello Gary - yes, but from another film!


And in this shot the journalist beside the car looks vaguely familiar, can anyone put a name to him:

 

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Jason Plato's dad   ;) 


#1604 Odseybod

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 21:59

I'm notoriously bad at faces, but was going to suggest Mike Kettlewell?



#1605 swintex

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Posted 17 October 2015 - 03:47

I have absolutely no idea what he was doing at this time, but he looks a bit like Peter Warr to me?

 

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#1606 JacnGille

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Posted 24 October 2015 - 01:03

Was watching Dr Zhivago for the first time in ages the other day. I thought how much the soundtrack sounded like Grand Prix. I fired up the computer and Google to find that both movies had the same composer. Dr Zhivago was released in '65 and Grand Prix in '66. Interesting.



#1607 Gary C

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Posted 24 October 2015 - 09:13

that's not Peter Warr with the microphone in his hand,  an actor perhaps?



#1608 B Squared

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Posted 26 October 2015 - 13:31

A postcard from Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood; Grand Prix happened to be playing at the time:

 

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#1609 group7

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Posted 16 November 2015 - 03:41

some photos here, of camera platforms test  with GT 40 Riverside.  http://www.fototime....028586AF136C181

if these have been posted before will delete.

 

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#1610 Macca

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Posted 18 November 2015 - 17:22

Yes, there was a link many moons ago, but I don't know where. Here is a photo I hadn't seen before of Garner driving at Willow Springs or Riverside before filming, and looking more like Jim Clark than Chris Amon:

 

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Going back to the journalist/interviewer at Brands; I don't know what Mike Kettlewell looks/looked like, but I know it's not Peter Warr. I was wondering if it was a journalist from one of the British motoring mags - I can eliminate DSJ, Posthumus, Bolster, McNally, Blunsden, Boyd (and of course DCN) but another name is Peter Garnier.

 

I see that, as well as the film about the making of 'Le Mans', there is a new book by an insider - I wish there were someone willing and knowledgeable enough about GP to write one about it.

 

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#1611 bradbury west

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Posted 18 November 2015 - 17:49

Paul, not Peter Garnier, as he was quite stocky/well built, and would have been in his 50s at least a by the time of the photo. Good sports editor on The Autocar though,IMHO, well known for his TR3 engined, disc braked Standard Ensign as his staff hack car.
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#1612 bradbury west

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Posted 18 November 2015 - 20:47

Paul, btw, there has been a lot of Grand Prix photos on e bay recently, unless that is the norm

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#1613 Macca

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 11:39

http://www.classicca...nd-prix-unseen/

 

The link has several superb never-seen location pictures from a book that is coming out next year.

 

BTW, as I mentioned elsewhere there is a photo in the 'Motor Sport' just gone of Barlini's car at Spa (labelled as Bandini's real Ferrari) from another book, 'Gasoline and Magic'.

 

Going back to the journalist on the grid at Brands; does anybody have any ideas?

 

 

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#1614 bradbury west

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 13:08

Paul, could the young journo be an equally young Alan Henry?  His age then and now would seem to fit, possibly. DCN or Mr Roebuck might know. I have not looked too hard, but cannot find  period shots of him.

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#1615 Macca

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 13:16

Yes, Alan Henry was someone who'd occurred to me.

 

Meanwhile, FH and another nice lady at Monza.

 

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#1616 Odseybod

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 13:16

Quite poss. I only suggested Mike Kettlewell earlier as he was the Press Officer at Brands at the time, so could easily have been roped in (or volunteered himself).



#1617 Macca

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Posted 24 December 2015 - 15:05

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I take the liberty of posting this image corrected, so that the van in the background doesn't say 'sutol' - and hope it doesn't appear back-to-front when the book is published.

 

Jack Watson and Donal O'Brien watch Frankenheimer filming the real Bruce McLaren at Monaco; Henry N. Manney III is otherwise occupied on the right.

 

 

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Edited by Macca, 24 December 2015 - 15:07.


#1618 B Squared

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Posted 24 December 2015 - 15:24

http://www.classicca...nd-prix-unseen/
 
The link has several superb never-seen location pictures from a book that is coming out next year.


I look forward to the book. Thanks for this and all of your contributions; I'd started following F1 as best as possible in 1965 and this movie has great memories of making it come alive. I enjoy watching most Frankenheimer films.

#1619 Macca

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Posted 13 January 2016 - 10:39

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Bob Bondurant, Jim Russell, Phil Hill, Richie Ginther and Lorenzo Bandini are apparently not listening to Frankenheimer but Bernard Cahier might be.

 

 

Paul M,


Edited by Macca, 13 January 2016 - 10:40.


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#1620 Richard Jenkins

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Posted 13 January 2016 - 23:38

Not sure if this is the right place but Brian Bedford who played Stoddart has died today. Can't be that many left now from the film?

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Posted 14 January 2016 - 03:04

Not sure if this is the right place but Brian Bedford who played Stoddart has died today. Can't be that many left now from the film?

Sad news

 

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#1622 Glengavel

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Posted 14 January 2016 - 07:38

I wonder how Bedford got the part (besides his resemblance to Jim Clark)? And why it didn't lead on to other things; I'm guessing he was content to be a stage actor? I think he holds up well beside Garner and Montand. 



#1623 Rob29

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Posted 14 January 2016 - 10:40

Sad news-this is the first I had heard this-always thought he was suposed to resemble Jackie Stewart?



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Posted 14 January 2016 - 18:26

Just heard the news...

Lots of sorrow so far here in 2016.

 

From what I had heard he was a lovely guy.

 

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RIP our Scott Stoddard.

 

 

EDIT: and unrelated..

Grand Prix actors take a spin in Pete Arons Shelby GT 350 H

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 03:36

Sad news-this is the first I had heard this-always thought he was suposed to resemble Jackie Stewart?

He certainly looked like Jackie Stewart once he was wearing a facemask and a replica of Stewart's helmet !

 

Apparently, he was the only one of the principal actors who would not do his own driving shots, so they had to have his stunt-driver double wear a face mask so that you coudn't tell it wasn't him.

 

RIP Mr. Bedford.



#1626 Macca

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Posted 29 January 2016 - 17:29

Yes, RIP indeed to his partner and family. It seems he didn't want to be a film star and preferred live stage work. He had only just learned to drive at all in 1966, hence not being happy with driving the film cars.

 

Frankenheimer's initial plan was to have Lotus as one of the featured teams, but Jim Russell found Chapman to be uncooperative so they switched to BRM; it may be that Bedford was indeed chosen for a resemblance to Jim Clark. However in 1966 Jim was wearing a face-mask just like Jackie...

 

Here is an informal shot of Francoise at Clermont-Ferrand to keep things ticking along.

 

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Paul M