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[tyrrellp34]

I am planing a Patrick Depailler memorial homepage. But I am looking for statistics especially from his F3, F2 and sportscar races. Maybe somebody can provide also some sheets from his motorcycle races (1962-1966), when he was with Norton and Benelli.

Who can help me?

[Darren Galpin]

I believe that you are probably the same person who sent me teh e-mail this week. I downloaded it at home last night, and I am compiling the sportscar results. 1967-1969 are complete, and I'll do the rest over the weekend and I'll post the results Monday.

[Allen Brown]

He also drove in Can-Am for the Freeman-Newman team. At the very least he drove once at Riverside (15 Oct 1978 - retired) but I seem to remember him driving something else as well. I'll check when I get home.

He also drove a F5000 car a few years earlier - can't remember that either but I'll check for you.

You can pick up all his F1 results (including non-championship races) here but I'm sure you already have that.

Allen

[tyrrellp34]

Thanks for the help! But Darren, I wasn't in touch with you earlier concerning the Depailler statistics... It was a friend of me called Marius... As you see there are some Depailler fans arround.

[Allen Brown]

Originally posted by Allen Brown
... but I seem to remember him driving something else as well. I'll check when I get home. He also drove a F5000 car a few years earlier - can't remember that either but I'll check for you.

OK - I was wrong. He never ran in F5000. Funny, I have a distinct memory of him in an Eagle in 1974 but I can find nothing in the results.

Also, that was his only Single-Seat Can-Am appearance.

Allen

[Jonathan]

Originally posted by Allen Brown
OK - I was wrong. He never ran in F5000. Funny, I have a distinct memory of him in an Eagle in 1974 but I can find nothing in the results.
Also, that was his only Single-Seat Can-Am appearance.
- Allen

Perhaps you were thinking of Patrick Tombay, instead ?

[FEV]

I'm quite sure that the only french driver in F5000 in 1974 was René Arnoux. But it was in Europe, and on Kitchener's mcLaren. The deal didn't last long as the car was unreliable and slow.


Tyrellp34,

Did you find anything on Depailler's motorcycle career. I've always wanted to know about his achievements on two wheels. I know he never scored an FIM World Championship point (unlike Beltoise, Brambilla and many others), but do you know if entered some WC races (maybe a french GP at Charade) ?
My father was into the "deltaplane" (not sure the word exists in english) scene in the late 70s-early 80s. I remember him telling me that Depailler had been in a few official races (national championships or something). Do you have any info on that ? If not do you want me to try and find more about it ?

FEV

[tyrrellp34]

FEV;

Patrick Depailler starts in 1962 with national motorcycle races in France. In 1963 at the “cup de Paris” at Monthlery he and Jean Pierre Beltoise met each other for the first time. During that season Depailler was unbeatable and recently won the 50cc national championship that year.
In 1964 Beltoise had his big crash at Reims and had a rest for some weeks or month. During his time of restoring he lend his Bultaco to Patrick for some races. Patrick has had a fine victory at Cognac with the Beltoise Bultaco.
In 1966 he was again national French champion into the 250cc class with Norton.
After that he was to busy concentrating in Automobil sport, but he was 2nd also in 1966 after Cevert at the “Volant Shell award”.
Evan as a F1 driver he never lost his love to huge overpowered motorcycles. In the late 70ies he bought the 6 Cylinder Benelli which becomes one of his favourite toys.

Tyrrellp34
(Stefan)

[Allen Brown]

Originally posted by Jonathan


Perhaps you were thinking of Patrick Tombay, instead ?

In a 1974 Eagle? Thanks for giving me an excuse but I'm afraid I'm just losing it.

Allen

[fines]

IIRC James Hunt drove the Eagle at Laguna Seca in 1974, but how could you possibly confuse him with Patrick Depailler!

[Allen Brown]

Very similar people. An easy mistake to make...

Allen

[fines]

I thought so...

[birdie]

deltaplane" (not sure the word exists in english)

Could it be hangliding? I read once he was into that

[FEV]

Thanks Birdie, that's the word I was looking for . My french/english dictionnary is sooo poor - I must buy a better one !!!

[Darren Galpin]

TyrrellP34 - I have access to a list of WSC and F2 results. I'm looking for the F3 results myself, as I know of someone else who is also compiling the career of Patrick Depailler. Do you still want the WSC and F2 info, and do you have any of the F3 info?

Cheers,

Darren

[Allen Brown]

I've finally figured out what the shatterered remnants of my memory were clinging to. It was an Elfin F5000, not an Eagle. In Australia, not the US. In 1980, not 1974. And it wasn't even Patrick Depailler, it was Didier Pironi.

Does that take the record for the most completely wrong anyone has yet been on TNF?

And does it finally convince me to stop trying to answer questions when I'm at work and don't have access to my books and notes? Well, I sure hope so - I can't take this sort of embarrasment very often!

Allen

[fines]

Originally posted by Allen Brown
I've finally figured out what the shatterered remnants of my memory were clinging to. It was an Elfin F5000, not an Eagle. In Australia, not the US. In 1980, not 1974. And it wasn't even Patrick Depailler, it was Didier Pironi.

At least it wasn't beach buggy racing!

[Marcor]

I'm nearly sure Patrick also drove in Formula Atlantic, especially at 3 Rivières, as this event was twin with Pau (where Gilles Villeneuve made his F2 debut in Europa). I will check it...

Yes I'm right. In 1977 Gilles Villeneuve took the pole ahead of Patrick, Cobb, Rosberg (Chevron Opert), Laffite and Holmes.

Cobb (March) won the race ahead of Holmes (March), Depailler (Chevron entered by Fred Opert), Gilles Villeneuve, Hill (March) and Laffite (Chevron Opert).

[Marcor]

GP de Trois-Rivières 1974 Formule B:
1- T. Klauser, Lola T360
2- Jean-Pierre Jaussaud, Chevron B27, + 3/10"
3- Patrick Depailler, March 742
4- J. King, Chevron B27
5- B. Jensen, March 742

FL- Patrick Depailler, March 742, 1'06"75 (131.64 km/h)
PP- Patrick Depailler, March 742

DNF (amongst others)
Tom Pryce
George Follmer

Patrick was on the lead when he was blackflagged as a wing of his March was dangerously threatening to fly away. He lost one lap...


From Sport-Auto, October 1974.

[tyrrellp34]

I regret, but just having his F3 results from the Alpine book which is in the own of my brother. Into a French magazine is a picture which shows him into a CANAM race at Mosport 1978.
Getting F2 results is easy! Just watch

http://user.tninet.s...1w/F2_Index.htm

Ciao

[tyrrellp34]

1972 R No. Grand Prix Race
7th July 1 France 20
8th Oct. 2 U.S.A. 7


Tyrrell
1974 R No. Grand Prix Race
13th Jan. 3 Argentinia 6
27th Jan. 4 Brazil 8
30th Mar. 5 S. Afrika 4
28th April 6 Spain 8
12th May 7 Belgium R.Brakes
26th May 8 Monaco 4
9th June 9 Sweeden 2
23th June 10 Netherland 6
7th July 11 French 8
20th July 12 Great Britain Engine
4th Aug. 13 German Crash
18th Aug 14 Austria Crash
8th Sept. 15 Italy 11
22th Sept. 16 Canada 5
6th Oct. 17 U.S.A. 6
14Chapionchippoints Place: 9

Tyrrell
1975 R No. Grand Prix Race
12th. Jan 18 Argentinia 5
26th. Jan 19 Brazil Suspens.
1th Mar 20 S. Africa 3
27th April 21 Spain Crash
11th May 22 Monaco 5
24th May 23 Belgium 4
8th June 24 Sweeden 12
22th June 25 Netherland 9
6th July 26 France 6
19th July 27 Great Britain 9
3th Aug. 28 Germany 9
11th Aug. 29 Austria 11
7th Sept. 30 Italy 7
5th Oct. 31 U.S.A. Crash
12 Championchippoints place: 9

Tyrrell
1976 R No. Grand Prix Race
25th Jan. 32 Brazil 2
6th Mar. 33 S. Africa 9
28th Mar. 34 U.S.A. 3
2th May 35 Spain Brakes
16th. May 36 Belgium Engine
30th May 37 Monaco 3
13th June 38 Sweeden 2
4th July 39 France 2
18th July 40 Great Britain Engine
1th Aug. 41 Germany Crash
15th Aug. 42 Austria Suspens.
29th Aug. 43 Netherlands 7
12th Sept. 44 Italy 6
3rd Oct. 45 Canada 2
10th Oct. 46 U.S.A.West Fuelhose
24th Oct. 47 Japan 2
39 Chapionchippoints place: 4

Tyrrell
1977 R No. Grand Prix Race
9th Jan. 48 Argentinia E.o-heat
23th. Jan 49 Brazil Crash
5th Mar. 50 S. Africa 3
3rd April 51 U.S.A. 4
8th May 52 Spain Engine
22th May 53 Monaco Brakes
5th June 54 Belgium 8
19th June 55 Sweeden 4
3rd July 56 France Crash
16th July 57 Great Britain Brakes
31th July 58 Germany Engine
14th Aug. 59 Austria 13
28th Aug. 60 Netherlands Engine
11th Sept. 61 Italy Engine
2nd Oct. 62 U.S.A. West 14
9th Oct. 63 Canada 2
23th Oct. 64 Japan 3
20 Championchippoints place: 8

Tyrrell
1978 R No. Grand Prix Race
15th Jan. 65 Argentinia 3
29th Jan. 66 Brazil Crash
4th March 67 S. Africa 2
2nd April 68 U.S.A. 3
7th May 69 Monaco 1
21th May 70 Belgium Gearbox
4th June 71 Spain Engine
17th June 72 Sweeden Suspens.
2nd July 73 France Engine
16th July 74 Great Britain 4
30th July 75 Germany Crash
13th Aug. 76 Austria 2
27th Aug. 77 Netherlands Engine
10th Aug. 78 Italy 11
1st Oct. 79 U.S.A. West Rear Hub
8th Oct. 80 Canada 5
34 Championchippoints place: 5

Ligier
1979 R No. Grand Prix Race
21th Jan. 81 Argentinia 2
4th Feb. 82 Brazil 2
3rd March 83 S. Africa Crash
8th April 84 U.S.A. 5
29th April 85 Spain 1
13th May 86 Belgium Crash
27th May 87 Monaco 5
22 Chapionchippoints place: 7

Alfa-Romeo
1980 R No. Grand Prix Race
13th Jan. 88 Argentinia Engine
27th Jan. 89 Brazil Electri.
1st March 90 S. Africa Not clssif.
30th March 91 U.S.A. Suspens.
4th May 92 Belgium Exhaust
18th May 93 Monaco Engine
29th June 94 France Handling
13th July 95 Great Britain Engine
0 Champiochippoints place: 29

Total F1
Starts 95
Points 141
Pole Pos. 1
Fast. Laps 4
Victories 2
Le Mans
Year Car 2nd Driver Result
1968 Alpine Bianchi Crash
1969 Alpine Jabouille Conrod
1970 Matra 650 Jabouille Engine
1971 Ligier JS3 Ligier 12.
1973 Matra Wollek Retired

[tyrrellp34]

Teammatch Qualifying Formula1
1974 Depailler Scheckter 03:12
1975 Depailler Scheckter 04:10
1976 Depailler Scheckter 10:06
1977 Depailler Peterson 09:08
1978 Depailler Pironi 14:02
1979 Depailler Lafitte 03:04
1980 Depailler Giacomelli 04:04