Emerson Fittipaldi - just five F1 accidents
Posted 13 September 2001 - 15:37
Also, I recently took some time to read The top dozen thread - I would like to mention that Fittipaldi's decision to try driving his own car cost him 20 places in list of best drivers ever (he didn't win a race in later half of his career, with Copersucar/Fittipaldi team). What do you think, what he could achieve if he would stay with top teams forn rest of 70's?
Posted 13 September 2001 - 20:55
Achille Varzi, Rudolf Caracciola and Alain Prost spring to mind.
Who are other drivers of the past and present that were best in avoiding involvement in accidents?
Posted 14 September 2001 - 00:14
Posted 14 September 2001 - 00:22
Worst injury: Blisters on his knuckles. I'd let him drive me around any time.
Fangio: Didn't he nearly break his neck in Monza '52?
In his defense: He was exhausted from a night drive getting to the race, barely made in on time, no previous sleep!
Posted 14 September 2001 - 01:26
It was often said at the time that Clark simply did not make mistakes, this is of course not true but his mistakes were smothered before they were even seen most of the time due to his phenomenal car control.
Posted 14 September 2001 - 09:05
Posted 14 September 2001 - 10:00
April 30 1960
Formula 2 - Ret
Formula Junior - Ret
British Grand Prix
July 15 1961
Formula 1 - Ret
April 18 1964
Formula 1 - Ret
Here is all the Retirements Jimmy ever had at Aintree I have all listed as Ret not as accidents. Could it have happened in Practice or Testing perhaps? Any more info very welcome as I can't find reference to this shunt anywhere.
Fangio certainly had a shunt! A bloody colossal one at that. He broke his neck in a Ferrari at Monza and had to sit out the 1952 season. Hardly a nothing shunt!
Posted 14 September 2001 - 12:30
Posted 14 September 2001 - 12:37
Here is our own Karl Ludvigsens account of the crash.
"On the second lap taking his usual tight line, Fangio grazed a low barrier on the inside of the second Lesmos turn. Fatigued, reacting slowly, he failed to catch the resulting slide and shot off the outside of the turn, where an ancient haybale caught and upended his red car. He was thrown out."
This was the second serious injury Fangio had sustained to his neck a crash in South America had also caused a lesion.
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Posted 14 September 2001 - 19:42
I sometimes wonder whether the accident at Monza in 1952 didn't give him a nudge towards the 'winning at the slowest speed' approach we saw in the years after.
Posted 16 September 2001 - 09:20
Varzi crashed only twice in his career. But his second crash would prove fatal.
Originally posted by dmj
I don't know stats for Caracciola and Varzi,
For the first crash see :
http://www.kolumbus....man/gp361.htm#5 (Tunis 1936)
It was a changed Varzi who took part in the Tunis GP. Gone was his usual calmness and he forced himself into the lead sliding the Auto Union all over the road. On the long straight where the cars were traveling at high speed the wind suddenly grabbed the Auto Union and pushed it out of the track. In one of the most horrifying accidents ever seen in GP racing Varzi's Auto Union spun in some 250 km/h, turned over several times and disintegrated completely, the rests of the wreck ending up in a cactus wood. Amazingly Varzi walked away from the wreck unhurt! He was however seriously shaken as it was his first crash in a career that had started in the mid 20:s
and for the reason for his behavour see
http://www.kolumbus....man/gp361.htm#4 (Tripoli 1936)
But then Auto Union's new team manager Dr. Feuereissen began to give strange team orders, Stuck was ordered to slow down and Varzi to speed up. Varzi put in a new lap record on the last lap and passed a very surprised Stuck just before the finish line.
The whole thing ended with great bitterness and fury for both drivers when they found out the truth. Varzi, who had done nothing wrong, was humiliated in public at the victory party when the Governor of Libya, Marshal Balbo, proposed a toast for the real winner of the race, i.e. for Stuck.
Posted 19 September 2001 - 11:30
Posted 19 September 2001 - 13:16
After he retired from F1 in 1958 he tried to qualify at Indy, didn't he have some kind of incident at the brickyard ?
Posted 19 September 2001 - 13:25
And as for the W196 - IIRC JMF complained that he couldn't see the front corner of the car, which was why he hit the marker barrels: just taking the tightest line ...
Posted 19 September 2001 - 16:07
Hi Bernd. My favourite early sixties record book says the following of that race:
Originally posted by Bernd
April 18 1964
Formula 1 - Ret
Here is all the Retirements Jimmy ever had at Aintree I have all listed as Ret not as accidents.
This was another interesting and closely fought event featuring a stirring duel for leadership between Clark in the brand new Lotus 33 and Brabham's normal BT7, ending when Clark was obstructed by Pilette's Scirocco entering Melling Crossing for the 47th time; the Lotus crashed heavily and Brabham was able to romp home to win ...
Posted 19 September 2001 - 18:26
Originally posted by MPea3
fangio shunts? look at this pic
and look at the nose of the car! not much of a shunt, granted, but a fascinating picture none the less.
Yes, it is a wonderful picture , but the caption is incorrect. Behra was driving a Maserati, Musso and Collins (both Lancia-Ferraris) were second and third. Behra was either fifth or sixth, see earlier thread on the race. I believe that the damage to Fangio's car was done in a minor collision with Behra on the first lap.
Posted 19 September 2001 - 19:17
I can only add an !
Posted 19 September 2001 - 21:58
Posted 19 September 2001 - 22:36
Originally posted by Don Capps
Has anyone said anything about the nasty road accident Emmo had in the Summer of 1971?
I'd forgotten all about that Don! Just dug out "Flying on the Ground" and found Emmo's description of it. Sounds like it was indeed nasty - happened on a French Autoroute when a car that looked like it was pulling over on the right turned left in front of him. Emerson got a bit of the steering wheel through his chest and lost a lot of blood. His wife Maria Helena was with him and she was also quite badly hurt: she was three months pregnant at the time and later the baby was still-born:(
Posted 20 September 2001 - 22:02
He was also known as a driver who could nurse an ailing car home.