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#1 Barry Boor

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Posted 14 October 2001 - 13:16

Apologies to all if this particular fact has been mentioned before.

I was watching Montoya's chase of Schuey this morning and it dawned on me that, of course, he is the first Colombian ever to win a World Championship Grand Prix.

I began to think back to try to recall the last NEW COUNTRY to be added to the winner's list. I thought I had it correct, but could not believe it was so long ago; so I checked Forix and I think I was right.

As far as I can make out, it is a whopping NINETEEN YEARS since a new country was added to the list - Finland with Keke's one win in 1982.

Is this a remarkable statistic, or am just an old anorak???? :blush:

And what will be the next new one?

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#2 Rob29

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Posted 14 October 2001 - 13:34

Somehow I don't think it will be another 19yrs before we need the Japanese or Malaysian anthems.

#3 Barry Boor

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Posted 14 October 2001 - 13:42

I'd certainly agree on the Japanese, but where is a Malaysian winner going to come from? Certainly not Yoong, I fear.

It seems amazing that Spain is not on the list; and to a lesser degree Portugal or Holland.

#4 Bjorn

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Posted 14 October 2001 - 17:22

Perhaps someone would care to list the winning countries so far (and perhaps number of wins for each one?) :)

#5 Bjorn

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Posted 14 October 2001 - 17:23

Oh, never mind, found it:


1  Great Britain  187 

 2  Brazil  80 

 3  France  79 

 4  Germany  62 

 5  Austria  41 

 6  Italy  39 

 7  Argentina  36 

 8  United States  33 

 9  Australia  26 

 10  Finland  25 

 11  Canada  17 

 12  New Zealand  12 

 13  Sweden  12 

 14  Belgium  11 

 15  South Africa  10 

 16  Switzerland  7 

 17  Mexico  2 

 18  Colombia  1


#6 Prostfan

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Posted 14 October 2001 - 20:21

Also interesting: the date of the last victory for a country
Germany 2001
Great Britain 2001
Finland 2001
Colombia 2001
Brazil 2000
Austria 1997 (Berger)
Canada 1997 (J. Villeneuve)
France 1996 (Panis)
Italy 1992 (Patrese)
Belgium 1990 (Boutsen)
Argentina 1981 (Reutemann)
Australia 1981 (Jones)
South Africa 1979 (Scheckter)
Switzerland 1979 (Regazzoni)
Sweden 1978 (Peterson)
USA 1978 (Andretti)
New Zealand 1974 (Hulme)
Mexico 1970 (P. Rodriguez)

#7 Richard Jenkins

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Posted 14 October 2001 - 20:26

Also not forgetting the last time an Englishman won a race is now three (or four seasons) years ago whilst Scots & Irish drivers have won since

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Posted 16 October 2001 - 12:39

Originally posted by Rob29
Somehow I don't think it will be another 19yrs before we need the Japanese or Malaysian anthems.

...or some East European.

#9 Vitesse2

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Posted 16 October 2001 - 13:03

In the light of the current French thread, it's interesting to note that Alain Prost accounts for well over half the French total and also that Germany wouldn't have been in the top ten just ten years ago.

Other points: Mexico, Colombia and South Africa only have one GP winner each, while the Canadian wins are all down to the Villeneuves.

Quite who that East European will be, I don't know, but on showings so far, I don't think it will be Enge ...

#10 sennadog93

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Posted 17 October 2001 - 22:06

It still seems amazing that so few Americans have won races.

#11 Vitesse2

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Posted 17 October 2001 - 22:39

Originally posted by sennadog93
It still seems amazing that so few Americans have won races.


But a high proportion of those Americans who have taken F1 seriously have won: Hill, Gurney, Mario Andretti and Ginther were all GP winners and I'm not sure we can count Michael Andretti as having been either serious or committed. Other than that, who is there? Masten Gregory, Eddie Cheever ... er ...:)

#12 leegle

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Posted 18 October 2001 - 04:31

Mark Donohue :( Jim Hall and Ronnie Bucknum spring to mind. :rolleyes:

#13 Darren

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Posted 18 October 2001 - 06:38

And only because another thread has caused me to look, Carroll Shelby: 8 GPs, a fourth place at Monza in a 250F. Not a serious long-term contender, but certainly no slouch.

#14 Vitesse2

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Posted 18 October 2001 - 11:30

Donohue would certainly have won GPs, had he not met his untimely end, but I'm not sure about Jim Hall - did he have the commitment to race in F1, even in the 60s? Don't get me wrong, from what I know of him, I think he was a pretty good driver, but he only did one full season ...

And Bucknum? Oh, come on ...:eek: With all due respect he was no more than a journeyman sportscar driver who lucked in to a drive with Honda. Nice guy, but only a seat-filler ...

#15 RJL

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Posted 18 October 2001 - 18:14

I think Harry Schell & Danny Sullivan were American.

#16 unrepentant lurker

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Posted 18 October 2001 - 19:12

Useless factoids to impress almost nobody with.

2 Brazil 80 - Only 5 Brazilians have won races, 3 are WDCs with 78 of the wins, Rubens and Carlos Pace have 1 each.

3 France 79 - Prost accounts for 51.

4 Germany 62 - Only 5 winners, guys named Schumacher have 56 wins.

5 Austria 41 - 2 WDCs and an above average driver.

6 Italy 39 - 13 winners, more than any other except GB (excluding the Indy500 winners).

9 Australia 26 - 2 winners, both WDCs.

10 Finland 25 - also 2 winners who are both WDCs.

11 Canada 17 - both winners are Villeneuves.

15 South Africa 10 - All are Scheckters wins.


More useless factoids.
692 drivers have started a GP (err, WC event as this also includes Indy runners).
284 drivers have gone on to score points.
More than 100 have podium finishes (Why FORIX stopped at 100??)
91 drivers have won a race (10 Indy 500 winners and the rest GP)
27 are World Champions.

#17 unrepentant lurker

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Posted 18 October 2001 - 19:12

Oh, and Revson was American with a bit of talent.

#18 Bjorn

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Posted 18 October 2001 - 19:25

Originally posted by unrepentant lurker
More than 100 have podium finishes (Why FORIX stopped at 100??)


Maybe there are precisely 100 podium finishers? :)

#19 unrepentant lurker

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Posted 18 October 2001 - 19:28

Originally posted by Bjorn


Maybe there are precisely 100 podium finishers? :)


At the top of the page it says "Top 100", but there's no link for the "Bottom 100"

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#20 Milan Fistonic

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Posted 18 October 2001 - 19:38

Originally posted by unrepentant lurker
More useless factoids.
....More than 100 have podium finishes (Why FORIX stopped at 100??)


156 drivers have podiums finishes.

#21 Vitesse2

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Posted 18 October 2001 - 20:22

Originally posted by unrepentant lurker
Oh, and Revson was American with a bit of talent.


:o :o

Originally posted by RJL
I think Harry Schell & Danny Sullivan were American.


'Arry was good, but not that good ... and Sullivan only did one season.

#22 MPea3

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Posted 18 October 2001 - 20:27

Originally posted by RJL
I think Harry Schell & Danny Sullivan were American.


while harry was american, didn't he spend most of his life (even growing up) in france?

#23 RJL

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Posted 18 October 2001 - 21:36

Cheever grew up in Italy. Villeneuve grew up in Monaco.

#24 Schummy

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Posted 21 October 2001 - 05:36

It's interesting to see Italy and USA have almost the same GP wins. And Italy is really lacking WDCs too! As was told here in an Atlas forum, it's a sort of statistical anomaly that that country with so many drivers in so many years doesn't have more wins and WDCs :confused:

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Posted 21 October 2001 - 10:53

Maybe this is the right place to ask if somebody of you out there knows where I could find a particular statistic I would love to see: A year-by-year account of, say, the ten biggest car manufacturing nations since 1895. And, if possible, another year-by-year account of the ten biggest car manufacturing companies as well. I've searched the web in vain, so far!