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#1 DEVO

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Posted 17 October 2001 - 18:50

How many times in the history of F1 has a driver/car scored points (1st - 6th place point scoring positions) while not finishing the race's "required" laps? (ignore races with the 2hr rule implemented)

What is the record for the most time being lapped that a 6th place driver finishing behind 1st place?

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#2 Prostfan

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Posted 17 October 2001 - 20:31

I think no points are awarded to drivers not driving the required number of laps. For instance Monaco 1966 only 4 drivers finished, so there no points for the 5th and 6th.

To your second question I think Dutch privateer C. G. de Beaufort comes close to it in Watkins Glen 1963 when he made 6th place with 11 laps missing to the winner, G. Hill.

#3 fines

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Posted 17 October 2001 - 22:00

Oh no, it's DEVO! [sorry, just joking]

Points are awarded to any "classified finisher", and there are literally hundreds who did not complete the "prescribed" laps! Do you really want one of us to count all this instances?????

#4 carlos.maza

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Posted 18 October 2001 - 12:07

Prostfan:

Wasn´t that the Monaco GP in which Guy Ligier arrived 6th?

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#5 DEVO

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Posted 18 October 2001 - 18:01

So you have to be running in order to get points? What if there are only 6 cars left and the last place car is down by 10 laps while the other 5 cars are on the lead lap, there are only 2 laps left and an accident occurs wiping out 3 cars. Does the car that was 10 laps down with 2 laps to go jump to 3rd now?

#6 unrepentant lurker

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Posted 18 October 2001 - 18:22

You don't have to be running in order to score points, you just need to classify in the top 6. In F1, to classify, you need to complete 90% of the laps the winner completes. If he does 60, you need 54.

Lets take Mika at Spain as an example. He was the first driver to complete 64 laps, but not the crucial 65th lap. As it turned out, he classified 9th (as the first driver -1 lap). IF only 5 driver finished on lead lap, then MH would have been 6th and scored a point. Note that he also finished ahead of 7 drivers who were actually still running.

#7 byrkus

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Posted 18 October 2001 - 19:42

In 1996 Monaco GP, only 4 cars (O. Panis, D. Coulthard, J. Herbert, H.H. Frentzen) came to finish. However, there were 7 classified, rest being M. Salo, M. Hakkinen and E. Irvine, which collided 2 or 3 laps to go. Salo and Hakkinen still received points.

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Posted 18 October 2001 - 20:12

I think it was in Brazil'98 or 99. HHF ran out of fuel on the last lap. He was third at the moment, and was the last one running on the same lap as MH (who won the race, 72 laps). So, HHF completed 71 laps and a few meters, and he still got the points for third place because RS (who was fourth) was already one lap down, and was not able to get the lap back on Frentzen (not enough laps left). Should HHF ran out of fuel before completing lap 71 then RS would made it to the podium