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#151 D-Type

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 21:30

Doug posted this on the "Professional boat racing" thread, I think it deserves repeating here.

I took Jenks and Geoff Goddard down to watch the Bristol GP one year. I recall we drove there in an AFN-loaned Martini-striped Porsche 911 Turbo. We were FLYING down the M4 in those largely pre-radar/pre-camera days. Jenks was fascinated by the preparation work in the quayside 'paddock' - mechanics changing propellers, adjusting trim tabs, fiddling with engines. As DSJ peered closely at what I think was some kind of works Mercury engine, a workee abruptly threw a tarpaulin over it, to block his view. I'm afraid that was like a red rag to a bull. Jenks hauled off and roared at him "That's a bloody pathetic thing to do. If you're worried about me looking at what you've brought here it means you haven't got the next step waiting in the wings back at base. If you're racing your latest spec you work for a pathetic sham of a racing operation!".

That went down quite well... It all went noisy for some time.

But we were pretty darned impressed by the racing itself. Reflected wake from the dockside walls rapidly turned the course into a churning mass of waves, foam and general chop. As is said above - seeing those blokes career around at near 100mph with so little margin was impressive.

One of the reasons we made the trip was that our friend Tony Hogg, who edited 'Road & Track' at the time in America, had been telling us about his pal Bill Muncey, driver of the legendary Unlimited 'Atlas Van Lines'. Tony had himself been a boat racer - in addition to motor racing with a Lotus and other cars - and he wrote a book on Bill and his racing heroics. But tragically Muncey was killed by a blow-over accident off Acapulco, in 1981. I think Tony told me the boat was travelling at more than 170mph when it took off over a wake - and 'went positive'. In those days the driver of those things stood little chance - no survival cell technology etc.

Heroes all.

DCN



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#152 Marc Sproule

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 23:10

Reading this thread caused me to laugh out loud on numerous occasions. What a treat to find it.

As the blathering tetes of Nascarisms are so fond of saying, "back in the day" I was just a newbie photog in the racing world. Through my buddy GKirby I was introduced to the likes of Messrs. Roebuck, Henry, Hamilton and Jenkinson.

Unfortunately my contact with DSJ was limited in the extreme but from the stories the others told I realized what a treasure he was.

I wish I had had more contact with the man, but this thread has definitely added to my appreciation of the man.

Thank you all for contributing.

#153 Ray Bell

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 23:13

Glad you did...

Jenks and his way of thinking is always interesting.

#154 fbarrett

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Posted 01 June 2010 - 00:12

Friends:

Having first read Jenks' work in the 1960s in Motor Sport, I immediately appreciated his unique viewpoints and powers of description. Later I went back and read his beyond-classic 1955 Mille Miglia report and enjoyed his Porsche book. That book contained photos and descriptions of what he called his 356A coupe, but the car was clearly a pre-1956 356 (no A, bent windshield, etc.). So, being a Porsche pedant, I wrote to him, asking why he called it a 356A. He kindly responded that the factory had updated the drivetrain, etc. to A specs, so he considered it a 356A. Still have the prized letter. Jenks became even more of a hero.

Then, in about 2005, Mercedes-Benz USA introduced the SLR McLaren in the U.S. and brought not ony a real 300SLR (yes, 722) but also Sir Stirling himself to demonstrate it at Virginia International Raceway--plus lucky me. Suddenly I was faced with not only a hero car but a hero driver yet (sadly) only a hero's passenger seat. As long as I live, I will never forget the few laps we did, and when I got out of the car, I was crying. An amazingly emotional experience it was, to take the place of a man who helped to form my professional life, even though I never met him. How many more of you did he affect?

Frank

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#155 Gary Davies

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Posted 01 June 2010 - 02:18

Frank, thank you. That is indeed most touching. As usual when the story of the 1955 Mille Miglia is evoked, I find fragments of DSJ's account, images of the countryside even, come back to me. A very special memory.

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Posted 01 June 2010 - 08:30

Jenks and Mansell is, in some ways, a puzzle. Jenkinson loved "Tiger" in a driver, as witness his love of Jean Behra's attitude. Whatever else Mansell lacked, it wasn't "Tiger", in fact he had so much that Patrese once....................

#157 john ruston

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Posted 01 June 2010 - 08:34

More special memories evoked by Jenks brilliant writing that the pretend MM they organise in Italy annually.He would have been appalled at the new show.Bit like those pretend cars that are now produced that are supposed to be same as originals.Another thing that would have made him into a very grumpy old man.Read Passion for Mototsport,it is a must.

Thought he had more than one 356 before Elans?






#158 Eric Dunsdon

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Posted 01 June 2010 - 08:48

I once wrote to D.S.J to express my support for his stand against Jackie Stewarts circuit safety campaign. I received a very nice letter of thanks from the great man in which he said that I reminded him of a young D.S.J. and that having once been on our side of the fence himself, he always wrote for people like us. I still have the letter of course, and keep it inside one of his Mille Miglia reports. Incidentally, I also have the Sports Car Racing book and consider its current value worth every penny!.

#159 Ray Bell

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Posted 01 June 2010 - 09:37

Originally posted by john ruston
.....Thought he had more than one 356 before Elans?


Did he have Elans?

I know he had an E-type or maybe two, and he did a European jaunt 'extended test' in a Europa that was good reading. Don't recall any Elans, though.

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#160 kayemod

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Posted 01 June 2010 - 10:19

Did he have Elans?

I know he had an E-type or maybe two, and he did a European jaunt 'extended test' in a Europa that was good reading. Don't recall any Elans, though.


Possibly a confusion with Nigel Roebuck, who I think was the only motoring writer rash enough to attempt long distance travel in an early Lotus.


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Posted 01 June 2010 - 16:14

Jenks had a Porsche or Porsches followed by an E-Type or E-Types but not an Elan.

He did do a long test of an Elan, driving it down to Sicily for the Targa Florio - I'll search my Motor Sport 60's disc tonight to see if I can find it.

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Posted 01 June 2010 - 19:14

So, a journalist who wanted to truly serve his readers, had to be matter of fact


How else would it be reported? Surely nothing changes.
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Posted 01 June 2010 - 20:27

Jenks had a Porsche or Porsches followed by an E-Type or E-Types but not an Elan.

He did do a long test of an Elan, driving it down to Sicily for the Targa Florio - I'll search my Motor Sport 60's disc tonight to see if I can find it.

The May 1965 magazine has his report of a trip to Sicily for the Syracuse GP in an Elan and then in July 1969 he reports on going to Sicily for the Targa in a Europa. Jenks enthused about both and both cars behaved impeccably.

#164 john ruston

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Posted 02 June 2010 - 06:36

He had an Elan at the Ring when I met him and assumed it was his.
Led to an article that Mr Nye included in the Passion book.Probably the only non racing thing in it!

#165 Ray Bell

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Posted 02 June 2010 - 09:28

From memory he also had a stint in a Citröen SM...

Those articles were as good a read as many others he penned. Everything he wrote was worth reading.

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 21:29

I feel this picture (lifted from Doug Nye's WOEIT) belongs here.
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The question is: "Is this Jenks looking smarter than usual, about average, or scruffier?", A genuine question as I've read of DSJ's "Colorado beetles" etc

#167 Stephen W

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 10:06

The question is: "Is this Jenks looking smarter than usual, about average, or scruffier?", A genuine question as I've read of DSJ's "Colorado beetles" etc


When I met him at the German GP at Nurburgring in 1973 he looked a tad smarter and somewhat heavier!

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 10:16

I feel this picture (lifted from Doug Nye's WOEIT) belongs here.
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The question is: "Is this Jenks looking smarter than usual, about average, or scruffier?", A genuine question as I've read of DSJ's "Colorado beetles" etc

There is also the question of the dog. Had Jenks been sleeping in a shop doorway and was he at the time of the photograph soliciting a hand out from a kind gentleman? Or was he doing a bit of poaching? Whilst it does not look much like a greyhound perhaps he is trying to get a good price from the bookie. I think we should be told!

#169 Doug Nye

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 11:07

I believe DSJ was under cover, investigating the Tcherman trade in dodgy postcards...

Either that or Mr Tee had been slow in paying his expenses.

DCN


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Posted 27 December 2011 - 11:30

I've looked very, very, very hard, but I can't see Foggy Dewhurst anywhere in this picture. However, Compo is obviously intrigued by Clegg's latest long-range paparazzi shots of Nora Batty's wrinkled stockings ...

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#171 Sharman

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 11:46

I've looked very, very, very hard, but I can't see Foggy Dewhurst anywhere in this picture. However, Compo is obviously intrigued by Clegg's latest long-range paparazzi shots of Nora Batty's wrinkled stockings ...

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Nothing at all to do with Jenks, but in the 70s, soon after the commencement of "The Last of" series a forecourt customer at one of my garages was soon nicknamed Compo by the staff (no self service in those days). He would arrive at the pumps in a battered Transit three or four times a day and put 1 gallon in the tank each time. It was debated whether to follow him to find out what he was actually doing but I don't believe anybody ever did.

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 17:47

There is also the question of the dog. Had Jenks been sleeping in a shop doorway and was he at the time of the photograph soliciting a hand out from a kind gentleman? Or was he doing a bit of poaching? Whilst it does not look much like a greyhound perhaps he is trying to get a good price from the bookie. I think we should be told!

I think the gentleman* on the left is holding the dog. Isn't that a lead or rope around his left wrist?

*gentleman - someone who does not have to work for a living

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 19:02

I think the gentleman* on the left is holding the dog. Isn't that a lead or rope around his left wrist?


I guess it must be, although I first thought it was an official's arm band. No one else seems to be "in the frame" for holding the dog's lead.

#174 Ray Bell

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 19:53

Isn't it obvious they're going through some photographs of a recent race?

Or maybe even yesterday's practice sessions?

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:33

Isn't it obvious they're going through some photographs of a recent race?

Or maybe even yesterday's practice sessions?


It might be obvious but it (to plagiarise Bramah) "is delightful to wander unchecked through the gardens of the collective TNF mind"

Edited by Sharman, 28 December 2011 - 12:07.


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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:56

There's a photo in "Porsche Past and Present" of the 1958 6-hours relay race team with Pat Burke (later Surtees), Jim Clark, Ian Scott-Watson (team manager), Eddie Portman, Jack Burke and Jenks, who according to the caption, "..even today does not feel happy unless he has his trousers tucked into his socks."

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 14:33

I believe DSJ was under cover, investigating the Tcherman trade in dodgy postcards...

Either that or Mr Tee had been slow in paying his expenses.

DCN


Were the postcards in question either dodgy or doggy? I think we should be told!

:well:



#178 Doug Nye

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 16:41

DSJ always had a remarkable effect upon our twin Springer Spaniels who absolutely adored him. They would go completely barmy upon his arrival, falling over one another as they hurtled about, barking fit to bust, tails a'blur. He would simply ignore them, other than to say quietly "Come on - be serious, you ridogulous dicks". And, immediately, they would obey.

But he never really liked dogs. He despised their readiness to obey, their willingness to please, and their dependence. Apart from his later-life girlfriend Robby Hewett's Doberman he much preferred cats - admiring their independence and self-sufficiency. In his final active years he more or less adopted an apparently feral cat which latched onto him in his isolated lodge house. It was tremendously vocal. So much so that he christened it Murray. And he reckoned it talked about as much sense...which was a leg-pull on his behalf because he actually thought highly of Muddly Talker, and they got on well.

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 16:10

In the photo of Jenks with the dog, when you look at his moustache as well as his beard, you can see how he felt an affinity with Harald Ertl when Ertl drove the Warsteiner-sponsored Hesketh in '76. Ertl was, of course, a fellow scribe. I remember Jenks observing that the literal English translation of Ertl was 'hurtle', and he thought 'Harry Hurtle', as he'd dubbed Ertl by then, was rather a good name for a racing driver!

My own memory of Harald Ertl is of seeing him going by on the slowing-down lap at the end of the 1976 British Grand Prix at Brands Hatch, just after Westfield, without his helmet and balaclava and with a contented smile on his face, his beard being parted down the middle by the airflow and his moustaches fluttering around his ears. A genuine free spirit, I thought.

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#180 Bauble

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 19:08

"the photo of Jenks with the dog, when you look at his moustache as well as his beard"

I just can't see the beard or moustache on the dog, are we looking at the same picture?

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 12:33

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#182 D-Type

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 12:54

Very poignant - wasn't this the last time that Jenks appeared in public?


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Posted 18 January 2012 - 12:56

That second one is just about the nicest pic I've ever seen on TNF. Those two, and what they achieved will still be being discussed in 100 years from now, for me the greatest motor racing achievement of all time.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 14:24

Thank you for your comments, Rob and Duncan. I recall that Jenks seemed quite moved, and he appeared humbled by the affection shown to him by the crowd that weekend.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 18:44

Re LJK Setright - I shouldn't really share this story, but it happened. During one of his foppish (insecure?) phases LJKS arrived at a new F1 car launch clad in what appeared to be pale cream suede jodhpurs, riding boots and a matching pale cream suede jacket, handlebar moustache tips waxed, monocle screwed into eye. DSJ spied him - giggled "Look at that prat" and pushed through the crowd to greet him. I didn't catch what his opening line was, but the great intellect was plainly not too impressed by the bearded little gnome's greeting. Whereupon ( hand on heart this is true ), Jenks said to the tall dandy, confidentially, - "Do you know Leonard, if you had another lens up your arse you'd make a damn fine telescope".

Sorry... :blush:

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What a humdinger of a story! :) Brilliant.

And what a thread! :clap: Setright, DSJ, John Bolster, Pete Lyons referred to. Even Russel Bulgin gets a mention. I really do miss LJK's stuff and for years have been searching car boot sales and similar for old 70s and 80s copies of CAR magazine so I could re-read some of his columns, but no luck. :( Unfortunately Ebay's hasn't been much help because the words "CAR Magazine" are so common - any kind of search just brings up thousands of thousands of hits with no way to filter the results. I particularly remember one column he wrote devoted to the pleasures of smoking cigarettes while driving fast. They were very non-PC times back then! I'd love to read that column again. The same goes for Russell Bulgin's old columns - I know there's a book of some of Russell's stuff but Amazon quoting that one at £100 .....

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 19:06

Very poignant - wasn't this the last time that Jenks appeared in public?

Duncan, please see post 175 here;
http://forums.autosp...p;#entry5431691
The 1995 shots are easy to spot as that year SCM was sitting on an inflatable rubber ring as he was still recovering from a leg injury, so he sat higher.
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Alan, were the shots taken as b/w of have they been processed? Super stuff.

Edited by bradbury west, 18 January 2012 - 19:09.


#187 Alan Cox

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 20:33

Alan, were the shots taken as b/w of have they been processed?

Original b&w, Roger.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 21:00

Duncan, please see post 175 here;
http://forums.autosp...p;#entry5431691
The 1995 shots are easy to spot as that year SCM was sitting on an inflatable rubber ring as he was still recovering from a leg injury, so he sat higher.
Roger

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Alan, were the shots taken as b/w of have they been processed? Super stuff.

:blush: Getting 1995 and 1996 confused.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 22:13

Thank you for your comments, Rob and Duncan. I recall that Jenks seemed quite moved, and he appeared humbled by the affection shown to him by the crowd that weekend.


Jenks was rather frail that weekend, and he feared he was going to "get another attack of the wobblies" if he overdid things. He stayed on beside the car for too long signing autographs, but there came a time when Alan Henry and I both became concerned that he was running low. With great regret we had to whisk him away for a sit down in quiet, and a cup of tea. I think I have posted this before but I'll never forget the disappointed expressions on the faces of the first two or three fans at the head of the remaining queue when we had to lower the boom. I think those chaps realised they wouldn't get another chance. I just hope they appreciated why we had to suddenly step in and say "no more"...we couldn't just let the old boy run himself into the ground...regardless.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 22:22

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DSJ looking rather more dapper during an F1 Renault Turbo test drive...Jean Sage amused by pessimistic Jenks forecasting rain...

Photo via Denis Jenkinson Collection/The GP Library

DCN

Edited by Doug Nye, 19 January 2012 - 22:25.


#191 Ray Bell

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 23:15

I'll bet he loved that drive!

I don't recall the ensuing article, but I'd think it was very interesting...

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 09:36

It was in November 1982 whilst Renault were testing at Paul Ricard. He wrote an account in Motor Sport February 1983 about blasting it along the Paul Ricard airfield runway & he had spun it through 360 degrees. I met him at the Cunningham Museum in Costa Mesa whilst we were over for the Long Beach GP & Briggs Cunningham & John Burgess were getting their MG K3 ready for Jenks to drive around the car park. We spoke about the sprint car meeting at Ascot which we were attending the following evening but I never got the chance to ask him about how he'd spun the Renault as the MG was ready to go.

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 10:24

I remember that article - he certainly liked the power! He must have given it an enormous bootfull to spin it in a straight line.

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 11:01

Just at the mo I'm feeling rather 'Jenksed out' because we are doing a lot of work involving him.

But I welcome this thread because the often irritating little bugger was very much my mentor, and mentor also to an entire generation of fine people who I believe do credit to his memory - including in alphabetical order Maurice Hamilton, Alan Henry, Andrew Marriott, Nigel Roebuck, Simon Taylor and really so many more...

If he thought you were a kindred spirit he was fantastically generous and open in his help for much younger enthusiasts. He was very much an honorary uncle to my two kids - as to many others - and once they were old enough to do interesting things he was great to them, and they thought the world of him.

His self-written obituary perhaps sums him up best:

"Born in 1920, Denis Jenkinson died at xx years of age. He had planned to live to 100 years, a nice tidy number, but his luck ran out.

"Anyone who did not know Jenks, or at least know of him, is of no importance or significance in the Motort Sporting world, which was his world for all but 10 years of his very active life with cars, motor cycles and aeroplanes. A product of the 20th century, he enjoyed and wondered at it all his life."

It's all there. You see the streak of vanity, a dash of pomposity, a touch of dismissiveness for those of whom he did not approve, a tidy mind, in many ways a schoolboy personality, a passion for his interests, total commitment to them, and a lifelong capacity to enquire, and to admire, and to wonder at the works of his fellow man...

John Fitch described him as "the mediaeval man" because Jenks never regarded safety as being anything other than an excuse for lack of daring, suppression of the human spirit. Competition motoring was his entire world. He detested politics and politicians, and World War 2 to him was merely a pestiferous "...fuss between politicians which postponed what should have been some great years of racing".

He was in my experience utterly fearless. He was totally incorruptible. He was fiercely intelligent, deep thinking and analytical and derived intense joy from creating an alternative personal reading of almost any incident one could choose. At his height he was usually absolutely correct, justified, penetratingly accurate. At his worst he would vent often unreasonable personal distaste or dislike, but once vented it would seldom last long. He would never apologise. He would hardly ever admit error. He would gleefully point out and celebrate error in others.

His real heroes - the men he would most like to have been - were:

a) Rudi Uhlenhaut, engineer, designer, a development driver capable of embarrassing his works drivers with comparable lap times, a kindred spirit - and:

b) Piero Taruffi, ferociously independent motor cycle and motor racer, engineer, team chief, designer, racer, record breaker...and Mille Miglia winner.

Drivers he really rated included Rosemeyer, Wimille, Fangio, Moss, Clark, Stewart (with the caveats expressed above), Lauda (for much of his career, especially when the British press took a dislike to him, so Jenks's contrariness sent him the other way), Villeneuve (up to a point), Jones, Rosberg (but for his loud mouth) and then Senna - who, in what was really Jenks's dotage, was adored in a manner approaching an almost schoolboy crush.

He began to lose interest when Grand Prix drivers began eating muesli and playing tennis. He wanted their pursuits to be ones of interest and daring. Eating "birdseed" and playing "woolly-ball" were neither.

His independence meant he never married - though nearly all his life he was attracted particularly to other blokes' wives and for long periods succeeded with them in rather more practical terms, especially with two of same - and he never either understood nor fell foul of the basic requirement to support a family which compromised many of his pupils' later work (very much including mine) when earning a living became first priority, producing work of merit secondary... (yes, OK, that IS an admission common to many of us).

He lived hard and rough, he was tough as old boots, he was never coarse, he used what might be described as 'bad language' in its place, particularly for its richness and emphasis, he was never less than civilised in his general demeanour and behaviour, and what has been quoted above from 'Car' magazine he would describe (as would I) as being "complete bollocks".

Like all great men he was flawed.

But believe me - us - here was a truly Great Man. It was a never less than entertaining privilege to know him. Flaw to flaw...

Sorry to ramble on.

DCN

PS - Barry is quite right about his 'Racing Car Review' books 1947-1958. They are gems. On ebay at the mo there are some priced around $5 from Australia, and £15 from the UK!

PPS - Tomas - Jo Bonnier was regarded as being remote, cold, aloof, snobbish - a racing motorist as opposed to being a Racing Driver, and one long past his sell-by date, running his car, combing his hair, posing for the photographers... Jenks neither recognised nor understood the role which JoBo played of being the drivers' multi-lingual, often diplomatic, interface with worldwide race promoters. He would not have objected to that, but for Bonnier insisting on appearing in the races still...

PPPS - Bernd - Jochen was perhaps the first leading Formula 1 driver since the earliest 1950s to appear upon the scene without a clue who DSJ was, nor caring. He dressed "weirdly", he was extremely abrupt in his manner and could be coarse and rude in his language and he showed neither respect, nor understanding nor interest in the little bloke with the beard. Jenks could have absorbed all of that, but for Rindt's lack of Formula 1 success. 49 GPs into his career, DSJ took great delight in being dismissive of a talent with whom everybody else seemed entranced.

P-etc - Oldtimer - Jenks's outlook was never so far as I know 'nationalistic' in the modern sense of that word. By contemporary standards he was peerlessly Internationalist - he had lived and worked in Belgium from choice in the late 1940s-early 1950s - he was violently critical of 'Little Englanders', and hugely receptive of German management and engineering regardless of recent history...which in the '50s was rare on this island. But he was ecstatic at living in an era in which his friends' teams and cars progressed to pre-eminence. At one stage he had lived with Connaught MD Geofffrey Clarke and his wife, he recognised the towering mixture of supreme talent, humility and modesty in young Tony Brooks, and when their car took Maserati's trousers down at Syracuse his writing was more partisan (for his chums) than 'nationalistic'. He was seeing the dawn of a new age...and he lived to see it through.

Really enjoyed that. Thanks for taking the time to write it. DSJ is someone who I would love to have chatted with about motorsport. A true enthusiast.

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 15:07

"the photo of Jenks with the dog, when you look at his moustache as well as his beard"

I just can't see the beard or moustache on the dog, are we looking at the same picture?

I've just got a vivid imagination... :)