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#551 Mallory Dan

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 17:15

I think you're spot on Phil, it was one of many groundbreaking ideas Mr Wardle came up with. Not many survived the first few races though IIRC. Perhaps he was a man ahead of his time, perhaps not...

Shame though, cos FAt had just had its best year over here, 1975, the Indylantic experiment seemed to kill it as a serious Formula for thrusting young drivers. Though given that F3 was on an upward trend from '75 onwards, perhaps Atlantic would have struggled anyway?

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#552 alansart

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 17:44

Originally posted by Mallory Dan
I think you're spot on Phil, it was one of many groundbreaking ideas Mr Wardle came up with. Not many survived the first few races though IIRC. Perhaps he was a man ahead of his time, perhaps not...

Shame though, cos FAt had just had its best year over here, 1975, the Indylantic experiment seemed to kill it as a serious Formula for thrusting young drivers. Though given that F3 was on an upward trend from '75 onwards, perhaps Atlantic would have struggled anyway?


The Indyatlantic promotion was certainly different for the time. I must admit at being quite excited by it, but getting disappointed when it fizzled out. I seem to remember the Autosport revue showing a semi topless picture of Fiona Richmond with the comment along the lines of "Fiona dropped a boob and the organisers dropped a few more"

Sad in a way. As much as I liked F3 at the time, Atlantics seemed more powerful and spectacular - they just couldn't get the grids.

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 20:10

thanks guys for all your kind words: I will pass them on to Ken. You're right Geoff, we will get together this year, I will see to that: can't wait to get the 2 of you together again after all these years and hear all the stories from the "good old, bad old" days! Ken is very well and comes to virtually every race meeting that I take part in: driving the stopwatch these days. At least I managed to achieve a life long ambition last season, and that was to win a race at Oulton whilst he was there.

As to whether or not I can get him on the forum....we'll see, he is on the web so I'll see what I can do. The next best thing is that I'll have a rummage through his scrap books and see if I can come across any bits of info or photos that you'll all find interesting. I'll also see if i can get him to recount any tales that I can post,always a bit difficult with Ken as Geoff pointed out: he's so modest even when he's talking to me!

However, in the meantime,a little tale that he did tell me about: this goes back to an Indyatlantic race at Croft in '76. I understand that it was quite common to have various "publicity" events leading up to race day in the nearest town. This day was no exception: there was some sort of a display/concours event lined up and (more interestingly) it had been arranged for the cars to be driven on the public roads around Darlington as a sort of "demonstration"!

Were the roads closed to the public?Er...no! but it was decided that they would have some sort of a police escort.After all, we couldn't have 20 odd Atlantic cars let loose on the public highway with no supevision could we?! because the designated route the drivers were given crossed from one police authority to another, the first part of the run was carried out with police motorcycle outriders who would duly pull off as they crossed "the border" where it had be arranged for another set of motorcycles to take over and finish the route. With me so far?Anyway, as you've probably guessed by now, when the first set of riders departed, the second set couldn't keep up with them! So, you had the sight of a field of Atlantics blasting through Friday's rush hour traffic at highly illegal speeds dodging in and out of Darlington's law abiding motorists on their way back to the circuit!!They must of wondered what on earth was happening to them!!

Anymore tales like this, I'll keep you all posted.

#554 David Winstanley

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 20:55

I do seem to remember that we were paraded to a crowd of distinctly underwhelmed spectators at Brands Hatch one time. The problem is that 1. British fans took a lot to get excited in those days and 2. The names David Winstanley, Steve Carvell and Peter Wardle don't exactly make you go weak at the knees do they?

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Posted 23 January 2008 - 09:02

Don't remember any parades though the streets in the London area before the Brands rounds,but the opening 'launch' ceremony was in the piazza area in the Euston Road between the then Thames TV and Capital Radio.

#556 Allen Brown

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Posted 23 January 2008 - 09:20

Great to catch up on this thread after a few days away.

Originally posted by Chris Townsend
What happened to the Sana? I know that Andy Barton bought one in early 78 and I believe it's now in South Africa.

David confirmed on another thread that his car went to Andy Barton. As Dan has said, Andy bought this mid 1977 and first raced it at Croft on 10 July. Motoring News (21 Jul 1977 p6) said that the car had been "built in a rush from a box of bits labelled 'Sana' - the car having F2 rear suspension and F3 front". The week before this race, Motoring News (7 Jul 1977 p16) noted that Barton had "acquired an old Sana F2/Atlantic chassis for the rest of the racing season". He'd wrecked his Chevron B35 at Ingliston on 8 May.

#557 Mallory Dan

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Posted 23 January 2008 - 11:13

Originally posted by David Winstanley
I do seem to remember that we were paraded to a crowd of distinctly underwhelmed spectators at Brands Hatch one time. The problem is that 1. British fans took a lot to get excited in those days and 2. The names David Winstanley, Steve Carvell and Peter Wardle don't exactly make you go weak at the knees do they?


The latter 2 make me feel a little queasy...

#558 Phil Rainford

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Posted 27 January 2008 - 12:12

Originally posted by Mallory Dan


The latter 2 make me feel a little queasy...


Dan, you are at it again You have a one track mind ......and I don't mean Mallory Park!!;)

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#559 Phil Rainford

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Posted 31 January 2008 - 00:04

While sorting through some boxes that have remained unopened since we moved house some five years ago ...... I came across an old autograph book

As you can see from these two adjoining pages from the book even in 1975 Geoff and Ted’s contributions were in sequence. (Ted has kindly both dated his autograph and given Formula Atlantic a name check!)

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#560 Stephen W

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Posted 31 January 2008 - 11:09

Originally posted by Phil Rainford
While sorting through some boxes that have remained unopened since we moved house some five years ago ...... I came across an old autograph book

As you can see from these two adjoining pages from the book even in 1975 Geoff and Ted’s contributions were in sequence. (Ted has kindly both dated his autograph and given Formula Atlantic a name check!)

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Which one was standing on their head? :wave:

#561 Fris the Whizz

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Posted 31 January 2008 - 12:05

Probably me, I never could write proper!

Cheers,

#562 Stephen W

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Posted 04 February 2008 - 13:11

A couple of shots from 1972:

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Above: Del Bennett in the Huron - Brands Hatch - April

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Above: Ray Allen in the RP12 Royale - Brands Hatch - April

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Posted 04 February 2008 - 18:12

Originally posted by Stephen W
A couple of shots from 1972:

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Above: Del Bennett in the Huron - Brands Hatch - April

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Above: Ray Allen in the RP12 Royale - Brands Hatch - April

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Smashing photos Stephen, :up: is it me or do all the cars these days ALL look the same!!? back in "ye olde days" there was such a variety in the manufactures body shapes etc, even now those old cars just look so right! :wave:

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Posted 04 February 2008 - 18:52

The Huron is a very pretty car, methinks. Lovely photos, Steve.

#565 Phil Rainford

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Posted 04 February 2008 - 20:04

Not only cracking pictures .......... but look how close the barriers are to the track at the top of Paddock :eek:


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Posted 04 February 2008 - 20:32

Good job that chap down in the dip (why do I think it's a Brabham BT28?) spun then...

Was Del Bennett's Huron the first venture into racing sponsorship for Pinch Plant?

I reckon 1972 was the most varied season, chassis-wise. Quite wonderful.

Lovely photographs Steve.

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Posted 05 February 2008 - 10:29

Originally posted by MCS
Good job that chap down in the dip (why do I think it's a Brabham BT28?) spun then...

Was Del Bennett's Huron the first venture into racing sponsorship for Pinch Plant?

I reckon 1972 was the most varied season, chassis-wise. Quite wonderful.

Lovely photographs Steve.


I think the guy down in the dip came off at Bottom Bend (aka Graham Hill Bend or whatever they call it now!)

Thanks for the nice words guys, I will see what else I can find as I trawl through the zillions of slides!

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Posted 05 February 2008 - 11:24

Originally posted by Phil Rainford
Not only cracking pictures .......... but look how close the barriers are to the track at the top of Paddock :eek:


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I think they realigned Paddock and the bit you can see there became the run off area.

Nice to see some older Atlantics :)

#569 David M. Kane

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 16:30

In Post #425 Picblanc shows a photo of Wes Dawn's Gil Nickle sponsored March. I understand from Chris Townshend that this car was run by the late Roger Hurst out of Lenham Racing of Kent. Does anyone know how I can reach any of those guys?

Thanks!

#570 David Winstanley

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 16:46

I finally unearthed just a few more pictures of the Sana. Interestingly after seeing the first one I realised that I hadn't been wearing my Bell Crash Helmet properly and promptly pulled it down a bit further over my head. Little did I realise at the time what a big head I had!!
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This third picture merely confirms the history of the car that we were actually using as reported in Autosport

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 17:24

David tell us more about the mirrors and their mountings. A bit different to anything I've ever seen before.

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 10:28

Originally posted by David Winstanley
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Wow! My picture I do believe David. At least you still have it - I certainly don't. Can't find any of the damned things.... :(

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 12:17

Originally posted by David M. Kane
David tell us more about the mirrors and their mountings. A bit different to anything I've ever seen before.

Never mind the mirrors, I want him to explain why he's wearing Rod Stewart's hair...

#574 David Winstanley

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 16:26

Originally posted by MCS


Wow! My picture I do believe David. At least you still have it - I certainly don't. Can't find any of the damned things.... :(


Crikey when I was looking at it I was wondering what had happened to you!! Never thought for a minute that MCS was Mark Scanlon, which just about sums up my thought processes doesn't it? Sorry for using your shot, does that mean I'm nicked?

And Simon, as for the Rod Stewart hair - I always was a bit of a hippie, and even now at this moment I'm listening to The Musical Box by Genesis, Peter Gabriel at his most bizarre, and I have about the same amount of hair as him now!

#575 David Winstanley

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 16:33

Originally posted by David Winstanley


Even now at this moment I'm listening to The Musical Box by Genesis,


Followed by Suppers Ready!

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 16:39

Originally posted by David Winstanley


Followed by Suppers Ready!


....or maybe "Watcher Of The Skies"?.....superb music :stoned:

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 17:21

Originally posted by sterling49


....or maybe "Watcher Of The Skies"?.....superb music :stoned:


"Time Table" from Foxtrot has just played on my itunes - Spooky or what? :D

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 20:33

Originally posted by alansart


"Time Table" from Foxtrot has just played on my itunes - Spooky or what? :D

I find iPods quite intuitive. Mine often selects Squeeze (or Chris Difford) when I'm passing through Deptford on the DLR. My first iPod expired in the middle of The Grand Parade of Lifeless Packaging (although it tends to play quite a lot of early Genesis, simply because there's rather a lot of it - everything from 1969-1976, basically - on there).

Does anybody have a copy of the Blaster Bates tune about the naming of Knicker Brook?

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 20:42

Sorry this is sooo O/T we could start a Genesis only club.........Anybody seen The Musical Box? The Canadian tribute.....if you get the chance, do, they are unbelievably good, I saw two shows "The Lamb Lies Down" and "The Black Show" (S.E.B.T.P.) just amazing gigs to see in 2006/7 :up:

My i-Pod has got nearly all Genesis on it :D

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 21:41

Originally posted by sterling49
Sorry this is sooo O/T

We've waded through about 473 posts concerning Stephen Choularton's March 73B, Vern Schuppan's Palliser and Winstanley's Sana, so one or two about Can Utility and the Coastliners won't hurt.

Yrs listening to Steve Hackett (Highly Strung),
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Posted 07 February 2008 - 22:00

..... for interested parties......The Musical Box, "A Trick Of The Tail" 23/24th October, nights to remember :cool:

http://www.fairfield.co.uk/

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 22:15

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Simon Arron
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I find iPods quite intuitive. Mine often selects Squeeze (or Chris Difford)

..... Saw Squeeze at Salford University as the second band in a line up that also included Radio Stars ( I will be surprised if anyone can remember them) and Eddie and the Hot Rods

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 22:42

Originally posted by Simon Arron

I find iPods quite intuitive. Mine often selects Squeeze (or Chris Difford) when I'm passing through Deptford on the DLR. My first iPod expired in the middle of The Grand Parade of Lifeless Packaging (although it tends to play quite a lot of early Genesis, simply because there's rather a lot of it - everything from 1969-1976, basically - on there).

Does anybody have a copy of the Blaster Bates tune about the naming of Knicker Brook?


My iTunes is on my iMAC that I work with all day so it stays in one room but it's weird how it picks up tunes that are relevant to what I'm doing!

I've been trying to find Blaster Bates for years. I saw him at the Roebuck Hotel in Stevenage many years ago. Fred Dibna with attitude :)

#584 David Winstanley

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 22:57

Blaster Bates, or whatever his real name was, used to be a copper in Sandbach, Cheshire when I was much younger, not a real copper but someone with real police powers, I forget what they called them. Special constable or something? I remember him pulling a bloke who had parked on double yellow lines in Sandbach Town Centre and gone into a shop just for a minute. The fella said 'but I only stopped for an ice cream' and Bates said, 'well that ice cream just cost you a fiver' or whatever the fine would have been in those days, but god he was funny! If you saw him live you just couldn't stop laughing. Anyone remember 'The shower of shit over Shropshire' or his 'they called it Safari yellow but it was just shite coloured' Volvo'?

And as for Peter Gabriel. Somewhere in my collection I did have pictures of him dressed as a flower and a box, but I can't find them just at the moment. They were taken about 30 years ago and the last time I saw him a couple of years ago he spent time either hanging upside down from the stage or bouncing around in a big ball that seemed to be made out of bubble wrap. So he's still crackers.

Sorry to go so OT.

#585 Allen Brown

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 13:25

Originally posted by David Winstanley
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Good picture - it just needed a press of the magic button:

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 13:25

Couldn't resist joining in on the derail - I've also seen The Musical Box (TMB) twice ('real' Genesis I've seen 3 times, but these days I definitely prefer TMB) - the "Selling England by the Pound" tour and The Dark Show. I think it was as close to time travel as one can get. Magic, and quite surreal! Sadly, I dicovered TMB too late to make it to "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" tour - but there's still a faint hope that the 'real' Genesis might actually do "The Lamb" again...

Now I'm looking forward to the TMB "Trick of the Tail" tour, though I can't figure out whether Denis Gagne is part of that, as he's been the guy carrying the torch as 'Gabriel' in TMB for quite a few years. TMB's previous drummer, Martin Levac, could virtually out-Collins Phil Collins, so he has formed his own post-Gabriel Genesis cover band called "Turn it on again", so sadly, I don't expect him to be part of the "Trick of the Tail" tour.

Anyway, looking at 1970s single seaters (and I still have 'the hots' for that Sana regardless of all its faults - it's just so different, neat, tiny and compact) goes well with listening to Olde Genesis music - and also 'solo breakouts' such as Hackett's "Voyage of the Acolyte" or "Spectral Mornings", Rutherford's "Smallcreep's Day" or Ant Philip's "Wise after the event". Then there's Olde Yes, Jethro Tull etc., etc. Even the music was better in the 1970's, this Olde Farte recons...

BTW: Best symphonic rock track ever, IMO: "Supper's ready"...

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 13:31

Supper's Ready.... lightweight pap. Not a patch on The Apotheosis of the Necromancer by Gandalf's Pikestaff.

#588 David M. Kane

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 13:52

Before he wrote the ticket did he "look in the mirrors?"

#589 sterling49

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 17:20

Originally posted by Bonde
Couldn't resist joining in on the derail - I've also seen The Musical Box (TMB) twice ('real' Genesis I've seen 3 times, but these days I definitely prefer TMB) - the "Selling England by the Pound" tour and The Dark Show. I think it was as close to time travel as one can get. Magic, and quite surreal! Sadly, I dicovered TMB too late to make it to "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" tour - but there's still a faint hope that the 'real' Genesis might actually do "The Lamb" again...

Now I'm looking forward to the TMB "Trick of the Tail" tour, though I can't figure out whether Denis Gagne is part of that, as he's been the guy carrying the torch as 'Gabriel' in TMB for quite a few years. TMB's previous drummer, Martin Levac, could virtually out-Collins Phil Collins, so he has formed his own post-Gabriel Genesis cover band called "Turn it on again", so sadly, I don't expect him to be part of the "Trick of the Tail" tour.

Anyway, looking at 1970s single seaters (and I still have 'the hots' for that Sana regardless of all its faults - it's just so different, neat, tiny and compact) goes well with listening to Olde Genesis music - and also 'solo breakouts' such as Hackett's "Voyage of the Acolyte" or "Spectral Mornings", Rutherford's "Smallcreep's Day" or Ant Philip's "Wise after the event". Then there's Olde Yes, Jethro Tull etc., etc. Even the music was better in the 1970's, this Olde Farte recons...

BTW: Best symphonic rock track ever, IMO: "Supper's ready"...


:up: :up: No matter what anyone else says Anders, in my book, your ok :wave:

I will be seeing TMB in October (3rd time) and agree, they are probably better than Genesis now,I saw Steve Hackett 3 times these last few years, simply awesome :eek:

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 17:24

I think we almost need a early 70's Genesis thread to keep this going - unless they were released on Atlantic Records of course :)

All my original discs have been binned unfortunately!

#591 Andrew Kitson

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 17:46

This lot are worth a look if they come to a town near you, if you like early Genesis that is!
http://www.inthecage...me/default.aspx

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 18:28

Originally posted by Andrew Kitson
This lot are worth a look if they come to a town near you, if you like early Genesis that is!
http://www.inthecage...me/default.aspx


Seen them a few years ago, and seeing them next month in Otford (Tom Pryce) village hall, that well know International Rock Venue, this lot are good also, they actually use a mellotron, the only down side is the singer (brilliant vocals) but resembles Ronnie Barker in the looks department :lol:

Otford a town Andy :confused:

#593 MCS

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 18:58

Originally posted by David Winstanley
Sorry for using your shot, does that mean I'm nicked?


No apology needed. It's nice to see it again!

Originally posted by Allen Brown
Good picture - it just needed a press of the magic button:


I don't know, you'll be wanting to use it next... :rolleyes:

#594 Allen Brown

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 19:03

Now why would you think that? :)

#595 Phil Rainford

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 20:44

And as for Peter Gabriel. Somewhere in my collection I did have pictures of him dressed as a flower and a box, but I can't find them just at the moment. They were taken about 30 years ago and the last time I saw him a couple of years ago he spent time either hanging upside down from the stage or bouncing around in a big ball that seemed to be made out of bubble wrap. So he's still crackers.

As a Punk in the late 70s and early 80s Genesis etc were strictly off limits ….however I don’t know how many TNF’s were brave enough to visit the Millennium Dome in 2000 but the Show that involved trapeze artists diving from the top of the roof was the highlight. The Music for the Show was written by Peter Gabriel and I was so impressed by the songs I actually purchased the CD….Joe Strummer would be turning his grave !!

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Posted 16 February 2008 - 19:09

I think that these photos, previously posted on the club racing thread, are probably relevant here, too.

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Tony Brise's Atlantic Modus, and Tony Brise and Mike Young perch on the front wheels of Young's Super Vee Modus. I think that is Teddy Savory to the left. Oulton paddock, Spring 1975

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Posted 19 February 2008 - 14:44

Originally posted by Phil Rainford
And as for Peter Gabriel. Somewhere in my collection I did have pictures of him dressed as a flower and a box, but I can't find them just at the moment. They were taken about 30 years ago and the last time I saw him a couple of years ago he spent time either hanging upside down from the stage or bouncing around in a big ball that seemed to be made out of bubble wrap. So he's still crackers.

As a Punk in the late 70s and early 80s Genesis etc were strictly off limits ….however I don’t know how many TNF’s were brave enough to visit the Millennium Dome in 2000 but the Show that involved trapeze artists diving from the top of the roof was the highlight. The Music for the Show was written by Peter Gabriel and I was so impressed by the songs I actually purchased the CD….Joe Strummer would be turning his grave !!

Kind regards

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Should be ashamed of yourself Phil! Gabriel was a bit of an eccentric wasn't he, I only know him from his 1980 hit, 'Games Without Frontiers' or similar title, about that years Moscow Olympics IIRC.

Can we get back to Atlantics, any pics of that years series, Leslie generally beating Fluxie, Alo and Dowsett, who were quite well-matched usually.

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Posted 19 February 2008 - 21:53

1981. Hardly a vintage year for British Atlantic.

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Class of the field, Ray Mallock/Cliff Smith Ralt RT4

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Mallock again, and Ian Taylor/Queensgate Racing Tiga FA 81

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Carlos Ulibarri/March 80A. I wonder how many spectators were persuaded to "Visit Mexico" as result of Carlos' efforts on the British circuits.

And, finally, one for Dan from the previous year, David Leslie
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Posted 20 February 2008 - 01:29

Originally posted by Alan Cox
1981. Hardly a vintage year for British Atlantic.

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Maybe not a vintage year, but those RT4s always looked "just right" somehow. Still do.

Neil

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Posted 20 February 2008 - 02:31

To drive a RT-4 is a pure pleasure.