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#51 Giraffe

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Posted 18 June 2010 - 16:39

Gulf claim to be growing in retail, and not the opposite.........

http://www.gulfoil.c...tail/index.html

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#52 aditya-now

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 01:06

Steve might disagree with that notion. Alive and old beats dead and cool anytime.


Steve at 80 would still be cool and sharp. It is something in his spirit, not in his physical..

#53 gm914

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 01:36

Very clever marketing that appears to be cross-generational. :smoking: (Although I cannot remember when I last saw a Gulf service station).

Here in Brooklyn, New York they are quite prolific. There's one 4 blocks from my apt., I even filmed a music video outside of it. The owner has a Hummer with 26 inch rims (America!) & a Murcieago.

Another one I stopped at asking for any merchandise ( stickers, flags, signs, oilcans, mechanics shirts etc) but was looked at like some kind of wierdo, lol.

I don't know what it is with the Gulf stations, but they brighten my day when i pass one.... :love:

#54 gm914

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 01:39

Steve at 80 would still be cool and sharp. It is something in his spirit, not in his physical..

That's whats so cool about seeing the film Papillon, where he ages to an old, white haired man, which unfortunately we never got to see. And as cool & sharp & determined as ever!

#55 Mansell4PM

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 10:15

Very clever marketing that appears to be cross-generational. :smoking: (Although I cannot remember when I last saw a Gulf service station).


Gulf stations appear to becoming more prevalent in my part of the world these days - a few have sprung up in West Cumbria in the past three years, and all have previously been Texaco franchises (whatever, if anything, that had to do with it). When my local petrol station changed over from Texaco to Gulf I even managed to persuade them to give me some stickers (that they were putting on the forecourt rubbish bins etc.). This got me into trouble with the better half, as I put a Gulf livery on our orangey-brown garden waste wheelie bin. Sadly, she who must be obeyed didn't like it and peeled off the pastel blue sticky backed plastic and the Gulf stickers. :well:

Still, stripping orange and pastel blue wood preservative off the shed's going to prove nigh-on impossible, so my day will come. Or will it be black with gold pinstriping? Decisions, decisions ....:rotfl:

#56 GD66

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 11:03

Sadly, she who must be obeyed didn't like it and peeled off the pastel blue sticky backed plastic and the Gulf stickers. :well:



:rolleyes:


#57 Nordic

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 11:25

I think that Gulf in the USA and Gulf in Britain (maybe also Europe) are different concerns, owned by different people. The Lola Astons are sponsored by the British company and the gulf logo cant be used on them in the US races.

Anyone know if thats correct?



#58 lanciaman

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 11:37

McQueen died in 1980 at the age of 50. A smart career move when you think about it as to some degree his image remains as forever young. I can hardly imagine an 80 year old 'King of cool' as he would have been were he still alive today.


I think Paul Newman's long life refutes this. He was cool past 80.

Now James Dean, THAT was a smart career move.

#59 Glengavel

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 18:06

That's whats so cool about seeing the film Papillon, where he ages to an old, white haired man, which unfortunately we never got to see. And as cool & sharp & determined as ever!


I thought that by the end of Papillon, McQueen's character is pretty well as mad as a hatter?


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#60 gm914

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Posted 21 June 2010 - 08:33

I thought that by the end of Papillon, McQueen's character is pretty well as mad as a hatter?

Of course he was! (SPOILER ALERT), but he got off the island, & on his own terms...

But it relates to his reality. Some said he was mad as a hatter to put Solar Productions together, to drive the 12 hr Sebring (albeit only 4 hrs) with his foot in a cast,
& to produce, write and star in "Le Mans".
But he did, and on his own terms.... :clap:


#61 Giraffe

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Posted 21 June 2010 - 08:37

I thought he was the man who had everything, but then he didn't have his health in the end which puts it into a quite different perspective.

#62 gm914

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Posted 21 June 2010 - 09:05

All I know is that he was 'the man'!

#63 275 GTB-4

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Posted 21 June 2010 - 11:06

I thought that by the end of Papillon, McQueen's character is pretty well as mad as a hatter?


You are right....he was paranoid, over weight and and we lost a star :confused: :(

#64 Frank S

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Posted 21 June 2010 - 16:23

You are right....he was paranoid, over weight and and we lost a star :confused: :(

Do you mean the "Papillon" character, or the person who expired in a Mexican quackery, taking wheatgrass enemas in a last-ditch effort to survive?

In either case, the end wasn't sufficient to overwhelm the accomplishments of a lifetime.


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Posted 21 June 2010 - 20:41

I can remember the first and last Gulf stations I ever saw. My grandfather sold Gulf gas at his country store, using the old pump that you had to pump up gas into the glass at the top. the last Gulf station was owned by a man who spent some time in England, 1943, I think it was, as the radio operator of a B-17G. His great story was that his plane was in the revetment next to the memphis Belle. The Belle was used as a backup plane after its crew did 25 missions and went home. It was considered a good luck charm. When my friend's plane developed engine trouble as it warmed up, the crew jumped out and headed for the Belle, ecstatic that they were in a plane that was lucky.


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Posted 22 June 2010 - 04:55

McQueen died in 1980 at the age of 50. A smart career move when you think about it as to some degree his image remains as forever young. I can hardly imagine an 80 year old 'King of cool' as he would have been were he still alive today.


Jack Nicholson is 73 now and according to few teens I know "He'd still get it!"

Gulf was taken over by Chevron in the early 80's iirc. Though I believe its started up again in a new form in the US with someone buying the name back. Worldwide the name is owned by GOI (Gulf Oil International) which is a seperate entity now. All the Gulf service stations in the UK are independently owned and rural.

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 11:34

Do you mean the "Papillon" character, or the person who expired in a Mexican quackery, taking wheatgrass enemas in a last-ditch effort to survive?

In either case, the end wasn't sufficient to overwhelm the accomplishments of a lifetime.


Yes Frank...thats what I meant...although the wheatgrass stuff is a little too much information!! Well put about his accomplishments especially in light of his troubled formative years.

#68 Manfred Cubenoggin

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Posted 05 June 2011 - 11:18

Just a little headsup to advise, chaps, that Turner Classic Movies(North America)is slated to broadcast Steve McQueen's LeMans film @ 22:00 today, Sunday, June 5th.



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Posted 06 June 2011 - 16:17

Just a little headsup to advise, chaps, that Turner Classic Movies(North America)is slated to broadcast Steve McQueen's LeMans film @ 22:00 today, Sunday, June 5th.

Thank You! Saw it, still great on the 30th view!

#70 Manfred Cubenoggin

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 22:38

And to be filed under 'Irony of Ironies', I forgot all about it. DOH!

#71 Daren W

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 09:49

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#72 Giraffe

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 09:57

One evening at last year's Oulton Park Gold Cup, a French evening was held at the Chequers Restaurant and "Le Mans" was shown on the big screen. The place was rammed and full of atmosphere as a hundred or so enthusiasts all watched the film together for the 30th time! :up:

Edited by Giraffe, 07 June 2011 - 09:58.


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Posted 26 September 2011 - 12:01

I just watched Le Mans again for what must be the hundredth time the other night, only this time it was on Blu Ray. For anyone who hasn't seen it yet in high definition, I urge you to do it - apart from a couple of scenes where the focus is a little soft, the visuals are amazing for a 40 year old film, and the audio is even better than it was.

I have a question though, during the film I swear I saw a couple of scenes that I hadn't seen before, or were at least extended - one of which was McQueen explaining about the car in the pits after a stint in the wet. The view was through a window above the Porsche pit looking out onto the circuit, as in the foreground at the bottom of the picture there was a girl asleep against the window, with a glass of wine near her - obviously the scene was meant to show that while people party through the night and/or grab some shut-eye, the serious stuff out on track never stops.

Am I imagining it or has that scene always been in the film? The running time of the Blu Ray was 1hr 48 min 41 sec, and the DVD was 1hr 44min. There are a few seconds of credits before and after the film for on the Blu Ray that are not on the DVD, but they are for the copywright holders. Was the DVD cut compared the to the theatrical release or are there scenes in the Blu Ray that people didn't see in the cinema? I couldn't stay awake to watch the film over again on DVD to find out...!

#74 D-Type

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 12:26

Films get cut differently for different markets. There will have been several "theatre releases" and one will have been used for the DVD while a different one was used for the Blu Ray. While you have found a couple of scenes in the Blu Ray version that are not in the DVD version you may well find the converse is true with some scenes in the DVD version that are not in the Blu Ray one. If so, then the additional material could be longer than (1hr 48 mins 41 secs) - (1hr 44mins 0secs) = (4 mins 41 secs)

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 16:10

Steve is currently advertising Barbour jackets. Who says he's dead?

Barbour motorcycle jackets.

#76 Giraffe

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 17:09

Steve is currently advertising Barbour jackets. Who says he's dead?

Barbour motorcycle jackets.


I heard that he is still dead, but I could be wrong?

At 35 quid for a teeshirt, I would say that his death was a smart marketing move. :eek:

#77 arttidesco

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 17:53

Steve McQueenâ„¢ is this a transcendental reincarnation perhaps ?

#78 Manfred Cubenoggin

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Posted 23 March 2016 - 00:15

Thursday, March 24, 2016 appears to be 'Steve McQueen Day' on Turner Classic Movies.  Among the assorted offerings, LeMans.

 

Airs at 6pm DST(18:00)in North America.



#79 Alan Lewis

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 21:51

Apologies if I've missed this being posted elsewhere, but I see that Erich Stahler (known in this alternate reality we're all trapped in as Siegfried Rauch) has passed away this week.

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 02:16

Apologies if I've missed this being posted elsewhere, but I see that Erich Stahler (known in this alternate reality we're all trapped in as Siegfried Rauch) has passed away this week.

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Sad news, another face from the past gone.

Rauch had recently published a memoir of his work on the film with McQueen, but it appears to have been published only in German:

https://www.amazon.d...siegfried rauch



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Posted 14 March 2018 - 06:34

I just watched Le Mans again for what must be the hundredth time the other night, only this time it was on Blu Ray. For anyone who hasn't seen it yet in high definition, I urge you to do it - apart from a couple of scenes where the focus is a little soft, the visuals are amazing for a 40 year old film, and the audio is even better than it was.


I just watched the doco 'Steve McQueen - the man and the movie' and was amazed at the high quality movie scenes, so much so that I momentarily wondered if some scenes had been reshot.

 

I guess they simply went back to the movie masters for both the doco and the bluray.  And now I have to buy the movie in bluray too!



#82 Alan Baker

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 09:06

Those expressing surprise at the quality of "old" film should realise that 35mm film has about four times the definition of domestic high definition systems. In other words HDTV and Blu-ray simply are not good enough to resolve all of the picture information present in 35mm film. As long as the transfer comes from a good condition source (i.e. not from a seventh generation knackered old print), the image will look as good as the system allows. As home cinema progresses to higher definition systems, "old" 35mm film will look even better, whereas recent stuff shot digitally can only ever look as good as when it was shot.



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Posted 14 March 2018 - 12:51

As home cinema progresses to higher definition systems, "old" 35mm film will look even better, whereas recent stuff shot digitally can only ever look as good as when it was shot.

What about 70mm?

 

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#84 Alan Baker

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Posted 15 March 2018 - 09:31

70mm (actually 65mm negative), such as was used to shoot Grand Prix, obviously has even more definition than 35mm, so will (or should) look even better.



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Posted 15 March 2018 - 09:54

I think it was June 1971 I was staying in Paris & saw LeMans at a cinema on the Champs Elysee.  I think the film was just released & the cinema was fairly full   but was in English language sound with subtitles  & for a few minutes I found  myself reading those & trying to translate!   I guess that must have been the wine effect!   I remember thinking it was a  little  disappointing although I am not sure of  a reason.

I'm surprised at the recent interest, I guess  I will have to watch it again.



#86 Nemo1965

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Posted 15 March 2018 - 19:20

I think Paul Newman's long life refutes this. He was cool past 80.

Now James Dean, THAT was a smart career move.

 

There is a fantastic SNL-live sketch (I believe) in which a record company tries to convince one of its artists to die tragically... because it would really boost his record-sales. He does not think it is a good idea... Okay, the execs of the company say, we get it. It was just an idea. 'By the way we bought you a Porsche... it is parked outside.'

 

Wink, wink.


Edited by Nemo1965, 15 March 2018 - 19:22.


#87 john aston

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 07:11

Or was he referring to folk hero for many (not me , obvs ,I  had never heard of him till I saw the stickers) ) Paul Walker , who was killed in a a Carrera GT ? That would be tasteful ... 



#88 Henri Greuter

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 18:15

I think it was June 1971 I was staying in Paris & saw LeMans at a cinema on the Champs Elysee.  I think the film was just released & the cinema was fairly full   but was in English language sound with subtitles  & for a few minutes I found  myself reading those & trying to translate!   I guess that must have been the wine effect!   I remember thinking it was a  little  disappointing although I am not sure of  a reason.

I'm surprised at the recent interest, I guess  I will have to watch it again.

 

Now that must have been quite a task to read all those many, many many lines of text.......

 

 

Henri