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#1 Racer.Demon

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Posted 05 March 2002 - 12:35

...but still busy renovating!

As you see, we have decided to introduce the new look to our site today - as we didn't want to continue confronting you with an index page that is several months old by now! However, we're still busy renovating. Most of the work entails cutting up the current game results pages into separate pages, each with refreshed links, the pre-July 2000 Why content in separate paragraphs for better reading, links to related articles and, finally, updates to the content itself, for example not referring to "this year" etc., and where possible, adding information on events that occurred past the original publication date. The new subindex pages Who?, What?, Where?, When?, Why? and How? will reflect the new content.

We expect the new content to be online sometime during the coming month. To give you an idea of where we are: we still need to do work on the October '99, November '99, Millennium and February '00 games.

We are also proud to present the work of two distinguished TNF members - Alessandro Silva and 'Uechtel' - on our pages soon.

Why did we take so long? Well, mainly our day-time jobs getting in the way in a quite forceful and unexpected way... Plus we did not imagine the amount of work that would come with cutting up all the old pages! So, yes, we're a bit behind our original schedule - we planned to have the new site online by the end of January - but the worst part is behind us now.

By the way, you can still visit the old site's content by clicking on 8W Site History and then scrolling down to the links to the old game pages. For history's sake we will keep these pages online once the new pages have been uploaded.

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#2 Don Capps

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Posted 05 March 2002 - 14:07

Outstanding. I am very proud of my 8W trophies.

#3 Vitesse2

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Posted 05 March 2002 - 14:31

You got trophies?? :eek: :lol:

All I got was a virtual bottle of champagne!!! :lol: :lol:

#4 Don Capps

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Posted 05 March 2002 - 14:46

Originally posted by Vitesse2
You got trophies?? :eek: :lol:

All I got was a virtual bottle of champagne!!! :lol: :lol:


You didn't? :eek:

I also got the special Mario Andretti Cup for my rookie win in April 1999. In fact, after winning the Trintignant three times on the trot they retired the original and changed the design. You really didn't get any trophies? Wow! I guess I shouldn't have said anything.... :lol:

#5 Racer.Demon

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Posted 05 March 2002 - 14:57

Originally posted by Don Capps


You didn't? :eek:


You didn't? A curse on those Royal Mail chaps... :)


Originally posted by Don Capps

I also got the special Mario Andretti Cup for my rookie win in April 1999. In fact, after winning the Trintignant three times on the trot they retired the original and changed the design.


And this is news to you as well, Richard? As a matter of fact, we're still waiting for you to return that McLaren Cup for us to engrave the final winner's name on it :lol:

#6 Vitesse2

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Posted 05 March 2002 - 15:10

I think you should ask Marc - wasn't he supposed to send it on? :lol:

#7 Geza Sury

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Posted 05 March 2002 - 17:59

The 8W page now looks better then ever! BTW, it's nice to see my name on the winner's list :cool:

I must admit, I miss the game more than ever! My fingers are starting to itch and it would be nice to do some detective work, write my Why? answers and see how I faired against the other 'McLaren Cup specialists'.

Playing the game was great fun, a big 'Thank You' to everyone, who made it possible!

#8 paulhooft

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Posted 05 March 2002 - 18:18

Sure you get Virtually drunk ..
from Virtually champagne
a real
Paul :drunk:

#9 fines

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Posted 05 March 2002 - 18:29

Originally posted by Don Capps
I also got the special Mario Andretti Cup for my rookie win in April 1999.

My Dan Gurney Trophy for narrowly missing the Coppa di Baghetti on my debut is neatly gathering dust on my shelf :) :)

#10 Don Capps

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Posted 06 March 2002 - 17:12

8W Winners Circle


Senior/overall:

1998

May: Vincent Ho

June: Vincent Ho

July: Martin Zustak

August: Rick MacLennan

September: Rick MacLennan

October: Rainer Nyberg

November: Rick MacLennan

December: Eugene Zhmarin

1999

January: Eugene Zhmarin

February: Eugene Zhmarin

March: Rainer Nyberg

April: Don Capps

May: Gerald Swan

August: Eugene Zhmarin

September: Robert Blinkhorn

October: Michael Ferner

November: John Cross

2000

Millennium: John Cross

February: John Cross

July: Marc Ceulemans, John Cross

August: Don Capps, Marc Ceulemans

September: Marc Ceulemans, John Cross

October: Marc Ceulemans

November: Alessandro Silva, 'Uechtel'

Christmas: 'Uechtel'

2001

May: Marc Ceulemans

June: John Cross

Summer: Richard Armstrong, Marc Ceulemans, Alessandro Silva

Autumn: Josh Lintz



Junior:

1998

May: Vincent Ho

June: Dmitriy Cherkashin

July: Martin Zustak

August: Nikodemus Solitander

September: Charles Cossette, Tjeerd van der Zee, Martin Zustak

October: Charles Cossette

November: Andrew Winter

December: Martin Zustak

1999

January: Oleg Jmarine

February: Rainer Nyberg

March: Rainer Nyberg, Oleg Jmarine

April: Igor De Canck

May: Oleg Jmarine



Trintignant Trophy:

1999

October: Don Capps

November: Don Capps

2000

Millennium: Don Capps

February: Don Capps, John Cross

July: Marc Ceulemans, John Cross

August: Tom Berge, Don Capps, Marc Ceulemans, Alessandro Silva, 'Uechtel'

September: Marc Ceulemans, John Cross, Alessandro Silva

October: Marc Ceulemans, John Cross, Greg England, Alessandro Silva

November: Alessandro Silva, 'Uechtel'

Christmas: Marc Ceulemans

2001

May: Marc Ceulemans

June: Alessandro Silva, 'Uechtel'

Summer: Richard Armstrong, Marc Ceulemans, Alessandro Silva

Autumn: David Fox



McLaren Cup:

1999

October: Michael Ferner

November: Greg England

2000

Millennium: John Cross

February: John Cross

July: Marc Ceulemans, John Cross

August: Don Capps, Marc Ceulemans, Chris Watkins

September: Marc Ceulemans, John Cross, Frank de Jong, 'Uechtel'

October: Marc Ceulemans

November: Alessandro Silva, Geza Sury, 'Uechtel'

Christmas: 'Uechtel'

2001

May: Marc Ceulemans

June: John Cross, Geza Sury

Summer: Richard Armstrong, Marc Ceulemans, John Cross, Alessandro Silva

Autumn: Dan Moakes

#11 josh.lintz

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Posted 06 March 2002 - 17:16

Seeing my name in pixels was good enough for me, and it impressed my fiancee too. Finally, she could stop asking why I was spending do much time on the computer....("8W, again! Don't you have homework or something?")

#12 dmj

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Posted 06 March 2002 - 17:25

Is there also a Otto Stupacher trophy for ones that never participated?

#13 ensign14

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Posted 06 March 2002 - 17:58

Yeah, they stopped the quiz just as I got a computer! I think I'd've been the Lombardi or Ghinzani! Now I'm the Londono-Bridge!

Or maybe Charles Nickerson! (I take it this is the Chuck Nicholson of TWR Touring Car fame in the early 80s? No-one else has made the link)

#14 Geza Sury

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Posted 06 March 2002 - 19:57

And I'm the (younger) Jacques Villeneuve of 8W! I almost won the Junior game first time out, but Rainer Nyberg, later to become an editor-at-large, beat me to the line by half a point ;)

#15 josh.lintz

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Posted 07 March 2002 - 12:56

Wait, upon reading the engraving...I've been awarded the Brambilla trophy for a half-points victory. That testing game was really difficult; educated guesses were my only help.

#16 Marcel Schot

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Posted 07 March 2002 - 13:56

I'd be Andrea de Cesaris then. Quite a few participations, but always without success :p

#17 Frank de Jong

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Posted 07 March 2002 - 15:00

Hmm, my McLaren cup of september 2000 has an inscription "This is copy 1 out of 4"
It should be renamed into "1/7 of a point Silverstone 1954 shared fastest lap trophy" :lol:

#18 fines

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Posted 07 March 2002 - 16:44

Gosh, I never won the Trintignant Trophy!!! :eek: :( :cry: And now the game's history! Posted Image

#19 Vitesse2

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Posted 07 March 2002 - 17:32

Originally posted by fines
Gosh, I never won the Trintignant Trophy!!! :eek: :( :cry: And now the game's history! Posted Image


The easy way was to win all of them at once!! :p :p

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#20 2F-001

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Posted 07 March 2002 - 17:55

Geza said:
>> And I'm the (younger) Jacques Villeneuve of 8W! :)

#21 Geza Sury

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Posted 07 March 2002 - 17:59

Originally posted by 2F-001
Can you imagine winning the 'Jacques Villeneuve Trophy' though? Just as the mail man is delivering it, the 'Schumacher Trophy' arrives via a rival courier firm and creams your parcel up against the side of the letterbox. :)

Since English is not my native language, it sounds chinese to me :confused:

#22 Racer.Demon

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Posted 08 March 2002 - 13:15

We should have started a new life as a silverware company. :smoking:

But hey, Josh, weren't you considering taking over our mantle? Tell us more about your plans (if they still exist). I guess you could make quite a few people happy.

#23 Geza Sury

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Posted 09 March 2002 - 14:46

Originally posted by Racer.Demon
But hey, Josh, weren't you considering taking over our mantle? Tell us more about your plans (if they still exist). I guess you could make quite a few people happy.

I'm curious...

#24 Racer.Demon

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Posted 11 March 2002 - 10:22

What it says in the topic line is now correct. The new 8W: now online... :)

It took us a while, and we want to thank you for your patience, but today we finally launched the new site. Feel free to look around and (hopefully) enjoy the scenery.

Do you like what you see and want to be part of it? You can.

Do you have an interesting subject from the outer reaches of motorsport history, perhaps one that was discussed here on TNF but needs the structure of a clear and concise webpage instead of its contributions being lost in the infinite archives of TNF? Do you miss a good study on your motorsport hero, favourite car or your vote for motor race of the 20th century? Or do you want to do a better job on a subject we already covered (which is also a very imaginable scenario...)? Please feel free to contact us and discuss your ideas.

Cheers, also on behalf of Felix, Rainer and Leif,

Mattijs

#25 quintin cloud

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Posted 11 March 2002 - 12:51

Looks cool :up: :up: :clap:

#26 josh.lintz

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Posted 11 March 2002 - 15:23

I'm working on my 8W-copy-website. I have more energy than time, so please be patient.

As for the real 8W site, it's looking good. :up:

#27 Racer.Demon

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Posted 11 March 2002 - 17:07

Something I forgot to mention: people wanting to link to their own 'Reader's Whys' can do that by putting #LASTNAME after the page's URL. For example:

- Hans can directly link to his story on Tim Birkin by using http://8w.forix.com/...in.html#ETZRODT
- Alessandro can do the same on his article on Hunt and Hesketh by using http://8w.forix.com/hunt.html#SILVA

Michael F. will probably like the idea that he can link to his contributions by using the #FINES anchor...;)

BTW, several of these stories (especially the longer ones and those out of the ordinary) have an entry of their own in the subsite index pages, so if you're unsure about the abbreviation we used, you can always find them there by moving your cursor over the link.

#28 uechtel

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Posted 11 March 2002 - 20:49

Congratulations!

Great to see the new 8W site online. :wave:

I could hardly await getting it to life again.

#29 fines

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Posted 11 March 2002 - 21:36

:)

#30 Racer.Demon

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Posted 15 March 2002 - 17:55

New on the site:

We are proud to present part 1 (on Veritas) of Uechtel's series on the early post-war German F2, F Libre and sports car efforts. Chapters on AFM, Holbein, Polensky and Bruetsch to follow...

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Posted 16 March 2002 - 16:21

:up: :up: :up:

#32 Marcor

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Posted 17 March 2002 - 23:53

Great !!! I would already like to read part 2...

#33 Racer.Demon

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Posted 22 March 2002 - 16:00

Originally posted by Marcor
Great !!! I would already like to read part 2...


Marc: at your service!

#34 ensign14

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Posted 22 March 2002 - 20:47

This is SO fantastic...many thanks, 'Uechtel', and to everyone at 8W.

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Posted 22 March 2002 - 21:00

Great :up: :up: :up:

Now, I'm waiting for other stories.

#36 Racer.Demon

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Posted 28 March 2002 - 09:15

Part 3 of Uechtel's series is now online and covers the smaller marques of Holbein, Polensky and EBS/Brütsch/Westenrieder.

Still to come in the near future: articles on West German specials, foreign appearances & guest drives and, of course, the East German specials.

Also we will be working to get a first preview publication from Alessandro's forthcoming book "Back on Track - Racing in the 40s" online within the coming weeks. The chapter we will publish will commemorate the weeks after April 16, 1946 when international motorsport came back on track with the Nice GP.

Working away...

#37 Frank de Jong

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Posted 28 March 2002 - 09:47

Great articles. A stunning display of knowledge. I'm very impressed. :up:

#38 Racer.Demon

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Posted 16 April 2002 - 00:21

New stuff on the site: we are very pleased and proud to give you a sneak preview of Alessandro's book Back on Track on racing in the 40s. Chapter 1 is about the weeks of April 16-30, covering the Nice GP on April 22 as the first real international meeting after the war. Conveniently, we have managed to publish the story on... April 16!

Also, apologies are in order for my complete negligence of TNF for the past weeks. It looks like I'm missing out on a huge number of very interesting threads. My compliments on all the guys participating - the quality is amazing. Oh well, there's only so much time in one week...

BTW, Uechtel's part 4 of his German F2 series is coming soon. Parts 4 to 6 are already in store but still need to be HTML'ised, and the EMW/DAMW finale will be sensational if I'm to go by the remarkable progress on the DAMW thread. I'm sure Michael Müller will get a big thank you :clap:

Cheers,
Mattijs @ 8W

#39 Vitesse2

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Posted 16 April 2002 - 11:02

Alessandro - simply STUNNING!! :clap: :clap: :clap:

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#40 uechtel

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Posted 16 April 2002 - 14:15

really great!

#41 Racer.Demon

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Posted 18 April 2002 - 12:56

Originally posted by Racer.Demon
BTW, Uechtel's part 4 of his German F2 series is coming soon.


And this is when ;)

You'll find it here.

#42 rdrcr

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Posted 18 April 2002 - 18:18

I've had the occasion to visit *W a couple of times now and I must say that is very well laid out, easy to navigate and the data and history content is excellent.

A very fine job from Mr.'s Diepraam, Muelas, Nyberg and Snellman

:up: :up: :up:

#43 Racer.Demon

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Posted 11 May 2002 - 23:18

We are happy to present Richard Armstrong's (aka Vitesse2 on this Forum) first contribution as a special writer for 8W. And it deals with motorsport for just a few paragraphs before wandering off into unknown territory - which is precisely why we liked it!

You can stop torturing your curiosity here...

So what happened to Uechtel's famed German F2 series? Chapter 5 will be published next weekend, with chapter 6 following the week after.

#44 Racer.Demon

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Posted 22 May 2002 - 17:34

Originally posted by Racer.Demon
So what happened to Uechtel's famed German F2 series? Chapter 5 will be published next weekend, with chapter 6 following the week after.


Shame on me. I completely forgot to inform you of the existence of chapter 5! Sorry, Uechtel... :up: :up: for your effort again.

#45 dretceterini

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Posted 22 May 2002 - 18:15

the stuff on the German cars is wonderful!

Thanks,
Stu

#46 Racer.Demon

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Posted 24 May 2002 - 19:35

Originally posted by Racer.Demon
with chapter 6 following the week after.


And here it is... I'm sure this one will get many of you excited! Still to come: the EMW/DAMW mysteries.

Also lined up for the near future: new bios on Szisz (by our Hungarian connection Geza Sury) and G Hill (by Richard '2nd Gear' Armstrong).

#47 Racer.Demon

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Posted 27 May 2002 - 18:44

Originally posted by Racer.Demon
Also lined up for the near future: new bios on Szisz (by our Hungarian connection Geza Sury)


Well, this suddenly became the very near future! Meaning here and now...

#48 Vitesse2

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Posted 27 May 2002 - 19:03

Hmm ... an interesting coincidence: Szisz lived in retirement in Auffargis. Another resident of Auffargis was Robert Benoist and it was at his Auffargis home that "W. Williams" was arrested by the Germans. For more details on that and the daring escape of Jean-Pierre Wimille see the link above ^^^ (plug) :)

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Posted 27 May 2002 - 19:11

OK, I am often astounded by the knowledge and sources of the contributors to this page, but to have the first GP winner's BIRTH CERTIFICATE...Geza (or is it Sury?), you're scaring me. :clap:

#50 Geza Sury

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Posted 29 May 2002 - 18:16

Originally posted by ensign14
OK, I am often astounded by the knowledge and sources of the contributors to this page, but to have the first GP winner's BIRTH CERTIFICATE...Geza (or is it Sury?), you're scaring me. :clap:

The certificate of baptism was published in a Hungarian magazine. The original copy is owned by two motor racing enthusiasts, who built up a 'museum', although is not open to public.

My original name is Suranyi Geza (or to be precise: Surányi Géza), but I use Geza Sury here for this is easier to write and pronounce for foreigners. Many foreiners told me they had thought Geza is a girl's name, but it is not. The father of the first Hungarian king (Istvan) was called Geza, hence my name.