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Poll: Bugatti 35C and Alfa Romeo 8C From Renato Balestrero... (5 member(s) have cast votes)

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#1 Bugatti bourgogne

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Posted 14 March 2002 - 10:44

:)

Hi,

I'm looking for information about this Italian amateur driver.
especially the period when he drove the Bugatti Type 35C #4843 during the 1927 season and maybe 1928. Only one race known with this car in 1929....

I know that he entered :
6 march 1927 Tripoli GP 2nd
29 March 1927 Circuit del Pozzo retired 8th laps for mechanical reason
24 april 1927 Targa florio 1927: retired after 2 laps
8 May 1927 Coppa Messina 2nd
29 May Coppa della Perugina 2nd
12 June 1927 Premio Reale di Roma 3rd


7 july 1929 Camaiore Cup ranked 1 rst
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After he raced on Maserati during 1934, then on Alfa Monza....


Is there someone who have pictures ? details.....??? or anything else to help me .....

Kind Regards,

Julien

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#2 Hans Etzrodt

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Posted 17 March 2002 - 18:46

Italian Mountain Climbs where Balestrero raced:
29 June 1928 Massarosa-Monte di Quisa, 1st on Lasalle
29 June 1929 Massarosa-Monte di Quisa, 2nd on Bugatti

#3 Bugatti bourgogne

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Posted 17 March 2002 - 19:09

:D

thanks hans,

Julien

#4 Marcor

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Posted 17 March 2002 - 20:51

Strange poll !

Julien,
Have you Sheldon Volume 1 and 2 ?

Renato Balestrero:
Born in 1898, died in 1948 (road accident on the Milano-Torino road).
Started racing in 1924.
1924-26: drove some OM: victory at Montenero (24), Tripoli (25), Messina (25-26), Circuit Apuano (25).
1927: drove the Bugatti 35C.
1928: drove a La Salle at the MM.
1929: won the Coppa Camaiore (Bugatti 35C)
1930: OM
1931: Bugatti 35C and Talbot (Italian GP)
1932: OM and Alfa Romeo (won the Targa Abruzzes, sports cars)
1933: Alfa Romeo "Monza"
1934: Alfa Romeo "Monza"
1935: Alfa Romeo "Monza" and Maserati
1936: Alfa Romeo
1937: Alfa Romeo Tipo B
1938: Alfa Romeo 308
1946: Fiat
1947: Fiat, Alfa Romeo, Italian Champion (sport National). Last race: San Remo-Poggio dei Fiori Hillclimb (won the 1100 cc class, Fiat).

#5 Hans Etzrodt

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Posted 17 March 2002 - 22:24

Marc,
Julien must have Sheldon because the 1927 information comes from there, although he does not say so. ;)

#6 Marcor

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Posted 17 March 2002 - 23:12

Unfortunately the story (and pictures) of 4843 are not included in "Archives d'un passionné" by Antoine Raffaëlli.

#7 David McKinney

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Posted 18 March 2002 - 22:21

1924
2nd Circuito del Tigullio 2-litre race 13/4
DNF Coppa delle Perugina 18/5
1st 2-litre class Circuito del Savio, Ravenna -/5
1st 2-litre class Polesine race, Padua 1/6
1st 2-litre race Montenero
2st 2-litre class Circuito del Mugello 31/8
all races in OM 665
1925
DNF Premio Reale di Roma 22/2
1st 2-litre race Tripoli
2nd 2-litre class Coppa Acerbo, Pescara 21/6
1st Coppa Vinci, Messina 5/7
DNF Montenero race 16/8
3rd-FTD Coppa della Collina Pistoiese hillclimb 23/8
DNF Garda 2-litre race 18/10
1st Circuito Apuano 2-litre race, Carrara 22/11
placed Italian sportscar races
all races in OM 665
1926
1st Coppa Vinci, Messina 2/5
3rd Catania-Etna sportscar race 9/5
FTD Targa Catalani hillclimb
3rd Coppa della Sila sportscar race, Cosenza 20/6
DNF Le Mans 24hr race/Thélusson 12-13/6
2nd in class (4th overall) 12hr GP Guipuzcoa, Lasarte/Danieli -/7
unplaced Montenero race 15/8
all races in OM 665
1927
2nd 2-litre race Tripoli 6/3 (Bugatti 35C)
DNF Circuit of Pozzo, Verona 20/3, and f/l (Bugatti 35C)
2nd Mille Miglia/Danieli 26-27/3 (OM Superba)
DNF Targa Florio 24/4 (Bugatti 35C)
2nd Coppa Vinci, Messina 8/5, and f/l (Bugatti 35C)
2nd Perugia 29/5 (Bugatti 35C)
3rd Rome Grand Prix 12/6 (Bugatti 35C)
1928
1st 5-litre class Mille Miglia/Minoia 26-27/3
FTD Massarosa-Monte di Quiesa hillclimb 29/6
2nd Circuito della Val d'Elsa sportscar race 1/7
FTD Italian sportscar hillclimb
all races in La Salle
1929
2nd-FTD Massarosa-Monte di Quiesa hillclimb 29/6
1st Coppa Camaiore 7/7
10th Coppa Ciano, Montenero 21/7
all races in Bugatti 35C
1930
3rd 3-litre class Mille Miglia/Bornigia -/4
DNF Targa Florio 4/5
(both races in OM)
1931
2nd in class Mille Miglia/Cortese 11-12/4 (Alfa 1750 Berlinetta)
7th 10hr Italian Grand Prix/Ruggeri 24/5 (Talbot 1700)
5th 2-litre heat Rome Grand Prix 7/6, unplaced final (Talbot 1700)
8th Coppa Acerbo, Pescara 16/8 (Bugatti 35C)
6th 2-litre heat Monza GP 6/9 (Bugatti 35C)
1932
1st Targa Abruzzi sportscar race, Pescara 15/8 (Alfa Romeo)
1933
2nd Targa Florio 28/5
2nd Lwow Grand Prix
2nd Coppa M Bianchi sportscar race, Cosenza 23/7
2nd Avellino sportscar race 6/8
2nd sports (3rd-FTD) Stelvio hillclimb 27/8
9th Italian Grand Prix 10/9
5th Monza GP 10/9
1st in class Semmering hillclimb 24/9
FTD minor Italian hillclimb
all races in Alfa Romeo(s)
1934
DNF Monaco Grand Prix 2/4
DNF Tripoli GP 6/5
4th Targa Florio 20/5
1st sportscar Kesselberg hillclimb
DNF Marne GP Rheims 8/7
DNF German Grand Prix 15/7
1st sportscar (6th-FTD) Klausen hillclimb 29/7
6cl Freiburg hillclimb
1st sportscar Mont Ventoux hillclimb
placed in Italian hillclimbs
all above races in Gruppo San Giorgio 2.6 Monza Alfa
DNF Swiss Grand Prix 16/8 (Maserati)
1935
5th Targa Florio 28/4 (Alfa Romeo)
?? Tunis GP 5/5 (Maserati)
1st in class (3rd-FTD) Kesselberg hillclimb 30/6 (Alfa)
DNF German Grand Prix 28/7 - crashed (Alfa Romeo)
2nd in class Grossglockner hillclimb 4/8 (Alfa Monza)
12th Swiss Grand Prix 25/8 (Maserati)
1st in class Freiburg hillclimb 1/9 (Alfa Romeo)
2nd in class Freiburg hillclimb 1/9 (Alfa Romeo sports)
2nd in heat Lucca 29/9, unplaced final (Alfa Romeo)
1936
contested Italian internationals without success (Alfa Romeo)
1937
5th in heat Avusrennen 30/5 (Maserati)
DNF German Grand Prix 25/7 (Alfa Romeo P3)
3rd in class Freiburg hillclimb (Alfa Romeo)
5th touring class Stelvio hillclimb -/8 (Alfa Romeo)
1938
3rd Nat Sport class Sassi-Superga hillclimb 24/4 (Alfa 6C-2300)
7th German Grand Prix 24/7 (Alfa Romeo 308)
1st Nat Sport class (5th-FTD) Stelvio hc 21/8 (Alfa 6C-2300)
1939
contested Italian vointurette races without success (Maserati)
3rd-FTD Argegno-Lanzo d'Intelvi hillclimb 23/7 (Alfa 6C-2300)
1940
Tripoli voiturette Grand Prix 12/5 (Maserati)
1941-45
no racing
1946
3rd Genoa sportscar race 16/9 (Fiat 2800)
1947
3rd San Remo sportscar race 13/4 (Alfa Romeo)
3rd in class Piacenza sportscar race 11/5 (Fiat)
9th Mille Miglia/Bracco 21-22/6 (Fiat 508C MM coupé)
3rd Bari GP 13/7 (Alfa Romeo)
3rd Benevento sportscar race 13/7 (Fiat Stanguellini 1100)
1st in class Aosta-Gran San Bernardo hillclimb 10/8 (Fiat)
placed minor Italian hillclimbs (Alfa Romeo and Fiat)
1st Italian Sportscar Championship

#8 Hans Etzrodt

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Posted 19 March 2002 - 02:55

Impressive results Gentlemen but I thought that our friend Julien was interested primarily in Bugatti results. ;)

Julien, if you want to send me another e-mail, please use this address hans@pixi.com instead of the Atlas F1 mailing system :D

#9 anjakub

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Posted 19 March 2002 - 09:46

Originally posted by David McKinney

1933
2nd Targa Florio 28/5
2nd Lwow Grand Prix
2nd Coppa M Bianchi sportscar race, Cosenza 23/7




In the Lwow Grand Prix (11.06.1933) Renato Ballestrero was second, but after the race was disqualified. He not accepted order of the refuelling point director.
And second in the Lwow was Swedish driver Per Viktor Widengreen.
Sources: polish magazine Auto 1933 No 7,8 and daily newspapers.

Andrzej

#10 David McKinney

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Posted 19 March 2002 - 10:37

Thanks Andrzej
That fact surfaced on another thread recently IIRC. I updated some of my data but clearly not my Balestrero file. Apologies all round

#11 Marcor

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Posted 19 March 2002 - 23:29

Lwow 1933 GP, 11 June (+ 1500 cc class), 304km = 100 laps
1- Bjornstad, Norway, (Alfa Romeo Monza), 3h 40' 38' 6/10 (82.75 km/h)
2- Balestrero, Italy, (Alfa Romeo), 3 h 43' 53" 3/10
3- Widengren, Sweden, (Alfa Romeo Monza), 3 h 44' 25" 2/10

That was the result of the race before the disqualification. Published in some Belgian newspapers in that form two or three days after the race.