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#151 DennisTobin

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 10:14

There was another major incident at Oran Park many years after the black day when John Marchiore, and Ray Heffernan died.
The dam on the inside of Energol Corner had been drained and filled in. (Plus the armco fencing on the approach to the same corner was remove)
A impoved production Mini driven by Barry (?) Cousins at a major moment on the "Dog Leg" and at high speed slid sideways into the looswe surface of the recentkly filled dam.
Travelling sideways the wheels dug into the loose surface and the Mini went into a series of barrel rolls. On the first roll the seat mountings broke , (presumabley) and cousins was being bounced around inside the car, eventually he was flung half out the right hand rear quarter window.
Withevery roll he was fed further out, fortunately never being trapped between the car and the ground.
On the last roll he was flung away from the car, landing on his hands and knees, unconsious.
The Mini on its last roll gently settled on top of Barry(?). He was holding the rear of the car of the ground.
He survived, and when I last spoke to this lucky man he was happily married to THE Susan Ransom. The mini did not survive.

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#152 Doug Nye

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 10:59

In May, 1963, a driver named Chris Airey became virtually the club saloon racing King of Brands Hatch in an unlikely looking Austin A40. That is until he ran out of luck one day, drifted wide onto the grass leaving Bottom Bend and rolled back across the road towards the South Bank. He was part ejected and had the car roll over him, inflicting injuries which he did not survive. My friend Darryl Reach was press officer that day, and he was landed with informing the unfortunate victim's father that his son had just died. Another sad day.

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#153 thirtytwo

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 11:34

In the 60's at Brands saw a 1300 Special Saloon Mini crash at Paddock on the warm up lap and deposit the driver on the dirt' i think he thought his belts were only necessary in the race, the cold tyres had other ideas as far as i remember his jumper got dirty otherwise he was okay but a NS. Jim Edwards?

#154 pete53

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 11:38

I was at Crystal Palace in September 1967 and saw Mike Walker's F3 Brabham tangle wheels with another competitor at North Tower. I seem to remember him being part ejected although the contemporary Motoring News report suggests he was actually thrown out and had the car land on him. Mike, of course, went on to race another day.

Incidentally, racing carried on whilst the injured Mike was rescued on the outside of a track that had virtually no run-off area. I can still picture the ambulance driving off with F3 cars buzzing past it, albeit at a slightly reduced pace.

#155 Ray Bell

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 22:39

Originally posted by DennisTobin
There was another major incident at Oran Park many years after the black day when John Marchiori and Ray Heffernan died.....


Yes, Heffernan was totally ejected, Marchiori only partly... enough to do a lot of damage...


A impoved production Mini driven by Barry (?) Cousins at a major moment on the "Dog Leg" and at high speed slid sideways into the loose surface of the recently filled dam.

Travelling sideways the wheels dug into the loose surface and the Mini went into a series of barrel rolls. On the first roll the seat mountings broke , (presumably) and cousins was being bounced around inside the car, eventually he was flung half out the right hand rear quarter window.

With every roll he was fed further out, fortunately never being trapped between the car and the ground.
On the last roll he was flung away from the car, landing on his hands and knees, unconsious.
The Mini on its last roll gently settled on top of Barry(?). He was holding the rear of the car of the ground.
He survived, and when I last spoke to this lucky man he was happily married to THE Susan Ransom. The mini did not survive.


There's a series of pics of this in RCN... did he not come out through the door?

His name is Richard, by the way, and I also thought it was a Sports Sedan, but I don't really remember.

#156 E.B.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 23:09

The scene I cannot ID is one at a dirt track, about 2 mins into the DVD.

The car goes nose over tail and the poor driver is flung out very high


This is a hell of a long shot having not seen the DVD, but is the car number 29?



#157 pressman

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 08:54

Peter Hawtin Oulton Park F5000 Cooper Sept 1971 just before hilltop,
no belts , but as the car was cut in half I dont think they would have helped....
Cheers
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#158 DennisTobin

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 21:35

Yes, Heffernan was totally ejected, Marchiori only partly... enough to do a lot of damage...




There's a series of pics of this in RCN... did he not come out through the door?

His name is Richard, by the way, and I also thought it was a Sports Sedan, but I don't really remember.

No Ray, he came out through the quarter window and he was not a small man. I had photo`s I had taken of the incident (now in someone else`s hands)
The photo in RCN was of the Mini with Richard still under it, officials running to lift it off.
Same meeting that Brian Foley destroyed the Alfa GT AM (?) he was fortunate to "get out" of that one.

#159 Russ Snyder

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 20:05

This is a hell of a long shot having not seen the DVD, but is the car number 29?


hey E.B.

yes, white 29 on a brown car
horse/dirt track.
driver is in white suit.
car flips sideways after nose to tail flip

scene is very fast

I believe this same fast flipping scene is in the movie crowd roars

Edited by Russ Snyder, 10 February 2012 - 23:24.


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#160 beighes

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 23:05

23 April, 1978 at the Westwood, B.C. Formula Atlantic event. Terry Visger & Allen Lader came together at the start of the race. Terry was found, some distance, from what was his 77B March. Thankfully, as Terry told me, he couldn't remember a thing.

#161 E.B.

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 19:33

hey E.B.

yes, white 29 on a brown car
horse/dirt track.


Really? Not such a long shot after all then!

I would investigate the possibility of it being Norbert Wiley at Hawthorne in 1924, which is my way of saying "that's what someone else has identified it as, so don't blame me if that's wrong"!




#162 Graham Clayton

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 09:32

In May, 1963, a driver named Chris Airey became virtually the club saloon racing King of Brands Hatch in an unlikely looking Austin A40. That is until he ran out of luck one day, drifted wide onto the grass leaving Bottom Bend and rolled back across the road towards the South Bank. He was part ejected and had the car roll over him, inflicting injuries which he did not survive. DCN


Doug,

A similar fate occurred to Frank Luptow during the September 21, 1952 AAA-sanctioned stock car race at Lakewood Speedway in Georgia.
His Hudson Hornet broke a front axle on lap 44 exiting turn two, and the car rolled down the back straight fence. Luptow was thrown out of the car, and when he came to rest, the Hornet rolled over him, killing him.


#163 pete53

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 12:49

David Alexander was thrown high, wide and handsome from his AC Ace when he rolled it at Riches Corner, I think, Snetterton circa 1962 (pic in 'Autosport')

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I have just come across the picture in Autosport of David Alexander's ejection (March 1963). Whilst the AC lies face down at the edge of the track the plucky Alexander appears to be about 6 feet in the air, vertical, and holding a pose that I can only describe as one of someone skipping for joy. Or, another interpretation could be, that he has taken a run up and is vaulting over the prone car. Most strange - very hard to relate the position of the car to the aerial position of the driver. But, I guess, once ejected, driver and car take a path of their own. Apparently he landed safely without injury! (I would load the picture but don't want to infringe copyright).

#164 Graham Clayton

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 01:09

Ralph Pons in the process of being thrown out of the Pons Special during a crash with Curtis "Cyclone" Ross at the Hammond Speedway in Hammond, Indiana on the 4th of June 1939. Pons received no serious injuries.


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#165 Ian Stewart

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 21:35

Bobby Baird at Snetterton, '52 or '53?

#166 Doug Nye

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 21:50

Bobby Baird at Snetterton, '52 or '53?


Indeed - poor chap. Happy Hogmanay Ian - I am confident all here wish you well.

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#167 Ian Stewart

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 22:08

Indeed - poor chap. Happy Hogmanay Ian - I am confident all here wish you well.

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Thanks Doug - and I warmly reciprocate your message to all at TNF.

Although I was thrown out (of the car!) at Silverstone and Buenos Aires, on a lighter note my most infuriating ejection happened when I fell asleep on the way to Turnberry. I came out shoeless, and they say that feet shrink in moments of stress. Fair enough, but what really hurt was that having landed in an old school friend's field he had the gall to send me a bill for fencing repairs!! Ah friendship...

#168 scags

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:30

Great hearing from you Ian- hope you're well.

#169 Rudernst

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 10:21


Dundrod TT 1955

The driver of the works car was ejected out of the car over some bumps, the car hit something solid afterwards
Note: the driver ejection was the cause and not a consequence of the accident

this incident says a lot about the state of the Dundrod course then and the soft possibly underdamped springing of the Kieft Climax then.

and, yes the bodywork and door cutouts of that car are low

the car is ok on modern circuits, but then, I am strapped in now securely

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#170 tsrwright

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:13

Brands Hatch 20 July 1952. Note the roll-over bar on the passing S Lewis-Evans.

That year a number of 500 drivers had vestigial roll-over bars apparently without bracing and I am wondering what the history of these things is.

Thus I will start a new thread.

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#171 Doug Nye

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 13:59

Those of us from south of the border will simply nod and assume your friend was plainly another canny Scot...

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#172 Ian Stewart

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 02:16

(scags @ Dec 28 2012, 01:30)
Great hearing from you Ian- hope you're well.


The patina of antiquity marches on - but I can't complain!



(Doug Nye @ Dec 28 2012, 13:59)

Those of us from south of the border will simply nod and assume your friend was plainly another canny Scot...


Two rotten fence posts vs. 50 yards of new fencing is supercanny - no hard feelings though, because I got my shoes back...





#173 Graham Clayton

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 07:12

South African driver John Kernick during a January 1966 meeting:

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#174 Doug Nye

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 20:20

So many graphic photos here sell the seat belts and roll-over bar requirement pretty well don't they. I don't have seat belts in my 1952-based fake C-Type because I don't want its lines ruined by a roll-over bar and there is no satisfactory shoulder-belt mounting method - so far as I know - without such a bar.

Last October 7, I encountered a Twit who had not seen a Give Way sign at the crossroads I was approaching at around 40mph. He swung out six yards in front of me. So I did the decent thing, of course, locked-up everything, and smartly drop-kicked him into touch. I wasn't quite thrown out in the collision, but six months later I am still in physio pending ruptured tendon and detached muscle recovery. The car is still in the repair shop. God Bless Mr Twit's insurance... But where seat belts are concerned, which of us was the Twit, even though belts are not a legal requirement in my car. Mrs Nye made the best point, however - "He should thank his lucky stars you were not in your 2.7 tons of Land Rover Discovery!". Fake C-Type weighs just 1,007Kg. It did make a difference. The other fellow and his passenger were completely unhurt.

DCN ):

#175 GMACKIE

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 22:13

Had a similar struggle over the 'seat belt / roll hoop' question with my fake 550 Spyder. The Wakefield Park circuit owners ruled that open cars without roll-over protection were not allowed on the track. This meant that I could no longer drive the Spyder at GEAR Club events. The most dangerous part of the day, however, was driving to and from the circuit. :eek:

Due to the height of the Porsche engine fan and carburettors, the bulkhead is high enough to mount a shoulder strap, so I have a 3-point seat belt. No ugly roll-over bar, though.

#176 D-Type

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 23:34

~but six months later I am still in physio pending ruptured tendon and detached muscle recovery. ~

DCN ):

Sorry to read this - I hope you have a good lawyer on the 'pain and suffering' case!

#177 elansprint72

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 23:35

The poster of this topic has not visited since May 19th 2002.

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#178 Ray Bell

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 03:34

At least Ian Stewart's come back after all this time...

A very welcome return.

#179 fan27

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 14:35

I had dinner with Richard Peel a few weeks ago and he recalled being thrown into the Monaco harbour during an F2 event.

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#180 Graham Clayton

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 07:35

Would anyone be able to identify the driver and car in this spectacular example?
 

 

http://www.pinterest...63236684696131/



#181 MCS

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 12:17

Would anyone be able to identify the driver and car in this spectacular example?
 

 

http://www.pinterest...63236684696131/

I don't know, but the look on the other driver's face is almost surreal.  Makes you wonder what his heart rate was - pretty slow, I would venture to suggest.

 

Early to mid-sixties at Sliverstone, Becketts (probably) and let's hope he hasn't just drop kicked the left rear wheel into the spectator enclosure...



#182 Graham Clayton

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 09:32

Vic Nauman at Williams Grove, PA - August 24, 1941

 



#183 Michael Ferner

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 14:06

Very interesting footage, many thanks! The first ten seconds or so are from the first heat race, won by Dave Randolph in the (Harvey) Kreiser/Hal (#28), a car that was usually driven by Nauman*. The white #29 in this race is fast timer Bill Holland in the (Ralph) Malamud/Miller, apparently retiring on the backstretch (0:28) - he came back to win the consy, and place second in the main event. The second heat race is where the crash happened, with Nauman leading in the (Mark) Light/Miller (#9) from a hard-pressing Joie Chitwood in the silver (Fred) Peters/Offenhauser (#1, the former Briggs Cunningham sprinter). There had been some "bad blood" between those two drivers, after a couple of on-track incidents over the past year or so, especially on the occasion of the next-to-last race here at Williams Grove, a mere six weeks ago. A "grudge match race" a fortnight later failed to settle the tempers, and the result can be seen here in moving pictures. Basically, it spelt the end for Nauman's career although he did come back after the war, but he was no longer a force to be reckoned with. As an aside, I believe the man rushing to the accident scene while taking off his pith helmet (0:50) is Emmett Shelley, director of racing at the Grove and a leading figure behind the speedway's gestation, as refered to in the WGS thread in the Historic Forum!

 

* Nauman was driving for Mark Light because his fellow townsman had been drafted back in July.



#184 Graham Clayton

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 10:25

The accident occurred during the running of the 1961 "World Speedcar
Derby" at the Sydney Showground.

The steering box disintegrated, which pitched the car right into
the fence, and a series of roll-overs. Although Peter Cuneen's lap belt
broke, and flung him out of the car, he was still attached by the
shoulder harness.

I have seen film footage of this crash. 

 

 

Here is the film footage of this spectacular crash - fast forward to 1:54

 


Edited by Graham Clayton, 18 June 2014 - 10:28.


#185 gtsmunro

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 03:54

No Ray, he came out through the quarter window and he was not a small man. I had photo`s I had taken of the incident (now in someone else`s hands)
The photo in RCN was of the Mini with Richard still under it, officials running to lift it off.
Same meeting that Brian Foley destroyed the Alfa GT AM (?) he was fortunate to "get out" of that one.

I think you might find Ray's correct Dennis. On page 184 of the 1974 Competition Yearbook there's one picture taken by Bruce Wallace of the Richard Cousins accident at Oran Park.The car is airborne and Cousins is hanging well outside of the drivers side door via the window. If anyone is interested and doesn't breach some kind of copyright, I'll scan it later and post the image. 

 

I also recall another pic around here of Harry Firth or someone else being partially flung from a rolling MG, though I probably have that confused with something else.

 

 

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Edited by gtsmunro, 21 June 2014 - 04:35.


#186 nitrocosworth

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 21:18

I am aware that Masten Gregory was thrown out of cars several times, but he was able to survive all of them.



#187 E.B.

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 21:53

Didn't he tend to jump before he was thrown?

#188 William Hunt

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 22:54

This may have been mentioned already but the most famous incident with a driver thrown out of a car was Hans Herrmann during the German GP at Avus, Berlin.
He was thrown out of his car when the brakes of his BRM failed, the car was making several salto's in the air, Hans didn't have injuries.



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Posted 27 July 2014 - 23:14

After the awards dinner following the 1996 Monte Carlo Challenge Historic Rally a large group of competitors retired from the Hotel de Paris to Rosie's Bar for refreshments.

 

At around 3am I was invited to drive a 1929 Chrysler Sport 77 from where it was parked in Casino Square to the rally HQ beach side hotel.  No less than 13 dinner suited competitors chose to avail themselves of the free transport home and climbed aboard said vehicle. Apart from the three of us in the two seater cockpit there were a number on the running boards and several lying across the small boat-shaped luggage compartment. We left the square on the route of the GP circuit and headed downhill.  As we approached Loews Hairpin at what felt like racing speed we passed a police van travelling in the opposite direction who took no notice of us whatsoever despite our clearly inebriated state and spirited progress.

 

When we got to Portier it became apparent that one of our number had parted company with the vehicle sometime after Loews - he arrived on foot sometime later in a somewhat torn tuxedo.

 

As this took place on a GP circuit in a competition car does it qualify for the thread?


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#190 Les Dalton

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Posted Yesterday, 17:48

I have not seen any mention of the time that Tony Brookes had throttle linkage problems with his BRM at the British Grands Prix at Silverstone in 1956, after spending some time in the pits for the linkage to be repaired,, he rejoined the race and as he drifted into Abbey Curve, suddenly realised that a lot more oil and rubber had had been put down, he tried to lift off, but the linkage stuck again and his BRM spun around and hit the banking, and he was thrown out of the car.

In his word's, I was very lucky, the car deposited me nicely on the grass verge rather than the macadam, then the car caught fire

This can be found in his autobiography, Poetry in Motion.

Regards,

Les Dalton.



#191 Nemo1965

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Posted Yesterday, 18:07

This is a very strange question perhaps, but...

 

Doesn't it happen a lot that drivers thrown out of the car lose one shoe mid-air?

 

I think it happened with Villeneuve, I am certain it happened with several of my friends who had a, erhm, too enthousiastic event while driving a quad. Last weekend I had to look for one size 8 (the friend in need was quite small indeed), in the evening, along the grasse verges of a dirt-track...in the semi-dark. Some nice girl found it and brought it to the bar.

 

And it happened to me also when car front ended me on my pushbike. I started at this front-bumper, I ended at the rear bumper... minus one shoe.



#192 Michael Ferner

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Posted Yesterday, 18:10

Adjust your shoe size!

#193 SEdward

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Posted Yesterday, 18:16

I think that there's already an old thread in this forum about drivers losing their shoes in accidents.

 

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#194 Nemo1965

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Posted Yesterday, 18:21

Adjust your shoe size!

 

I have a size of 12... anything smaller and I walk like Quasimodo (or as a running Sutil).

 

 

I think that there's already an old thread in this forum about drivers losing their shoes in accidents.

 

Edward

 

You got to be  f....... kidding me.


Edited by Nemo1965, Yesterday, 19:11.


#195 E.B.

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Posted Yesterday, 18:55

Do you think it's cobblers?

#196 Nemo1965

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Posted Today, 13:18

Do you think it's cobblers?

 

 

I don't know that expression? But I do believe there is a thread about the subject, if that is the meat of your question. :up: