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#151 DennisTobin

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 10:14

There was another major incident at Oran Park many years after the black day when John Marchiore, and Ray Heffernan died.
The dam on the inside of Energol Corner had been drained and filled in. (Plus the armco fencing on the approach to the same corner was remove)
A impoved production Mini driven by Barry (?) Cousins at a major moment on the "Dog Leg" and at high speed slid sideways into the looswe surface of the recentkly filled dam.
Travelling sideways the wheels dug into the loose surface and the Mini went into a series of barrel rolls. On the first roll the seat mountings broke , (presumabley) and cousins was being bounced around inside the car, eventually he was flung half out the right hand rear quarter window.
Withevery roll he was fed further out, fortunately never being trapped between the car and the ground.
On the last roll he was flung away from the car, landing on his hands and knees, unconsious.
The Mini on its last roll gently settled on top of Barry(?). He was holding the rear of the car of the ground.
He survived, and when I last spoke to this lucky man he was happily married to THE Susan Ransom. The mini did not survive.

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#152 Doug Nye

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 10:59

In May, 1963, a driver named Chris Airey became virtually the club saloon racing King of Brands Hatch in an unlikely looking Austin A40. That is until he ran out of luck one day, drifted wide onto the grass leaving Bottom Bend and rolled back across the road towards the South Bank. He was part ejected and had the car roll over him, inflicting injuries which he did not survive. My friend Darryl Reach was press officer that day, and he was landed with informing the unfortunate victim's father that his son had just died. Another sad day.

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#153 thirtytwo

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 11:34

In the 60's at Brands saw a 1300 Special Saloon Mini crash at Paddock on the warm up lap and deposit the driver on the dirt' i think he thought his belts were only necessary in the race, the cold tyres had other ideas as far as i remember his jumper got dirty otherwise he was okay but a NS. Jim Edwards?

#154 pete53

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 11:38

I was at Crystal Palace in September 1967 and saw Mike Walker's F3 Brabham tangle wheels with another competitor at North Tower. I seem to remember him being part ejected although the contemporary Motoring News report suggests he was actually thrown out and had the car land on him. Mike, of course, went on to race another day.

Incidentally, racing carried on whilst the injured Mike was rescued on the outside of a track that had virtually no run-off area. I can still picture the ambulance driving off with F3 cars buzzing past it, albeit at a slightly reduced pace.

#155 Ray Bell

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 22:39

Originally posted by DennisTobin
There was another major incident at Oran Park many years after the black day when John Marchiori and Ray Heffernan died.....


Yes, Heffernan was totally ejected, Marchiori only partly... enough to do a lot of damage...


A impoved production Mini driven by Barry (?) Cousins at a major moment on the "Dog Leg" and at high speed slid sideways into the loose surface of the recently filled dam.

Travelling sideways the wheels dug into the loose surface and the Mini went into a series of barrel rolls. On the first roll the seat mountings broke , (presumably) and cousins was being bounced around inside the car, eventually he was flung half out the right hand rear quarter window.

With every roll he was fed further out, fortunately never being trapped between the car and the ground.
On the last roll he was flung away from the car, landing on his hands and knees, unconsious.
The Mini on its last roll gently settled on top of Barry(?). He was holding the rear of the car of the ground.
He survived, and when I last spoke to this lucky man he was happily married to THE Susan Ransom. The mini did not survive.


There's a series of pics of this in RCN... did he not come out through the door?

His name is Richard, by the way, and I also thought it was a Sports Sedan, but I don't really remember.

#156 E.B.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 23:09

The scene I cannot ID is one at a dirt track, about 2 mins into the DVD.

The car goes nose over tail and the poor driver is flung out very high


This is a hell of a long shot having not seen the DVD, but is the car number 29?



#157 pressman

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 08:54

Peter Hawtin Oulton Park F5000 Cooper Sept 1971 just before hilltop,
no belts , but as the car was cut in half I dont think they would have helped....
Cheers
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#158 DennisTobin

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 21:35

Yes, Heffernan was totally ejected, Marchiori only partly... enough to do a lot of damage...




There's a series of pics of this in RCN... did he not come out through the door?

His name is Richard, by the way, and I also thought it was a Sports Sedan, but I don't really remember.

No Ray, he came out through the quarter window and he was not a small man. I had photo`s I had taken of the incident (now in someone else`s hands)
The photo in RCN was of the Mini with Richard still under it, officials running to lift it off.
Same meeting that Brian Foley destroyed the Alfa GT AM (?) he was fortunate to "get out" of that one.

#159 Russ Snyder

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 20:05

This is a hell of a long shot having not seen the DVD, but is the car number 29?


hey E.B.

yes, white 29 on a brown car
horse/dirt track.
driver is in white suit.
car flips sideways after nose to tail flip

scene is very fast

I believe this same fast flipping scene is in the movie crowd roars

Edited by Russ Snyder, 10 February 2012 - 23:24.


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#160 beighes

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 23:05

23 April, 1978 at the Westwood, B.C. Formula Atlantic event. Terry Visger & Allen Lader came together at the start of the race. Terry was found, some distance, from what was his 77B March. Thankfully, as Terry told me, he couldn't remember a thing.

#161 E.B.

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 19:33

hey E.B.

yes, white 29 on a brown car
horse/dirt track.


Really? Not such a long shot after all then!

I would investigate the possibility of it being Norbert Wiley at Hawthorne in 1924, which is my way of saying "that's what someone else has identified it as, so don't blame me if that's wrong"!




#162 Graham Clayton

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 09:32

In May, 1963, a driver named Chris Airey became virtually the club saloon racing King of Brands Hatch in an unlikely looking Austin A40. That is until he ran out of luck one day, drifted wide onto the grass leaving Bottom Bend and rolled back across the road towards the South Bank. He was part ejected and had the car roll over him, inflicting injuries which he did not survive. DCN


Doug,

A similar fate occurred to Frank Luptow during the September 21, 1952 AAA-sanctioned stock car race at Lakewood Speedway in Georgia.
His Hudson Hornet broke a front axle on lap 44 exiting turn two, and the car rolled down the back straight fence. Luptow was thrown out of the car, and when he came to rest, the Hornet rolled over him, killing him.


#163 pete53

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 12:49

David Alexander was thrown high, wide and handsome from his AC Ace when he rolled it at Riches Corner, I think, Snetterton circa 1962 (pic in 'Autosport')

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I have just come across the picture in Autosport of David Alexander's ejection (March 1963). Whilst the AC lies face down at the edge of the track the plucky Alexander appears to be about 6 feet in the air, vertical, and holding a pose that I can only describe as one of someone skipping for joy. Or, another interpretation could be, that he has taken a run up and is vaulting over the prone car. Most strange - very hard to relate the position of the car to the aerial position of the driver. But, I guess, once ejected, driver and car take a path of their own. Apparently he landed safely without injury! (I would load the picture but don't want to infringe copyright).

#164 Graham Clayton

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 01:09

Ralph Pons in the process of being thrown out of the Pons Special during a crash with Curtis "Cyclone" Ross at the Hammond Speedway in Hammond, Indiana on the 4th of June 1939. Pons received no serious injuries.


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#165 Ian Stewart

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 21:35

Bobby Baird at Snetterton, '52 or '53?

#166 Doug Nye

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 21:50

Bobby Baird at Snetterton, '52 or '53?


Indeed - poor chap. Happy Hogmanay Ian - I am confident all here wish you well.

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#167 Ian Stewart

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 22:08

Indeed - poor chap. Happy Hogmanay Ian - I am confident all here wish you well.

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Thanks Doug - and I warmly reciprocate your message to all at TNF.

Although I was thrown out (of the car!) at Silverstone and Buenos Aires, on a lighter note my most infuriating ejection happened when I fell asleep on the way to Turnberry. I came out shoeless, and they say that feet shrink in moments of stress. Fair enough, but what really hurt was that having landed in an old school friend's field he had the gall to send me a bill for fencing repairs!! Ah friendship...

#168 scags

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:30

Great hearing from you Ian- hope you're well.

#169 Rudernst

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 10:21


Dundrod TT 1955

The driver of the works car was ejected out of the car over some bumps, the car hit something solid afterwards
Note: the driver ejection was the cause and not a consequence of the accident

this incident says a lot about the state of the Dundrod course then and the soft possibly underdamped springing of the Kieft Climax then.

and, yes the bodywork and door cutouts of that car are low

the car is ok on modern circuits, but then, I am strapped in now securely

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:13

Brands Hatch 20 July 1952. Note the roll-over bar on the passing S Lewis-Evans.

That year a number of 500 drivers had vestigial roll-over bars apparently without bracing and I am wondering what the history of these things is.

Thus I will start a new thread.

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#171 Doug Nye

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 13:59

Those of us from south of the border will simply nod and assume your friend was plainly another canny Scot...

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#172 Ian Stewart

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 02:16

(scags @ Dec 28 2012, 01:30)
Great hearing from you Ian- hope you're well.


The patina of antiquity marches on - but I can't complain!



(Doug Nye @ Dec 28 2012, 13:59)

Those of us from south of the border will simply nod and assume your friend was plainly another canny Scot...


Two rotten fence posts vs. 50 yards of new fencing is supercanny - no hard feelings though, because I got my shoes back...





#173 Graham Clayton

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 07:12

South African driver John Kernick during a January 1966 meeting:

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#174 Doug Nye

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 20:20

So many graphic photos here sell the seat belts and roll-over bar requirement pretty well don't they. I don't have seat belts in my 1952-based fake C-Type because I don't want its lines ruined by a roll-over bar and there is no satisfactory shoulder-belt mounting method - so far as I know - without such a bar.

Last October 7, I encountered a Twit who had not seen a Give Way sign at the crossroads I was approaching at around 40mph. He swung out six yards in front of me. So I did the decent thing, of course, locked-up everything, and smartly drop-kicked him into touch. I wasn't quite thrown out in the collision, but six months later I am still in physio pending ruptured tendon and detached muscle recovery. The car is still in the repair shop. God Bless Mr Twit's insurance... But where seat belts are concerned, which of us was the Twit, even though belts are not a legal requirement in my car. Mrs Nye made the best point, however - "He should thank his lucky stars you were not in your 2.7 tons of Land Rover Discovery!". Fake C-Type weighs just 1,007Kg. It did make a difference. The other fellow and his passenger were completely unhurt.

DCN ):

#175 GMACKIE

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 22:13

Had a similar struggle over the 'seat belt / roll hoop' question with my fake 550 Spyder. The Wakefield Park circuit owners ruled that open cars without roll-over protection were not allowed on the track. This meant that I could no longer drive the Spyder at GEAR Club events. The most dangerous part of the day, however, was driving to and from the circuit. :eek:

Due to the height of the Porsche engine fan and carburettors, the bulkhead is high enough to mount a shoulder strap, so I have a 3-point seat belt. No ugly roll-over bar, though.

#176 D-Type

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 23:34

~but six months later I am still in physio pending ruptured tendon and detached muscle recovery. ~

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Sorry to read this - I hope you have a good lawyer on the 'pain and suffering' case!

#177 elansprint72

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 23:35

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#178 Ray Bell

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 03:34

At least Ian Stewart's come back after all this time...

A very welcome return.

#179 fan27

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 14:35

I had dinner with Richard Peel a few weeks ago and he recalled being thrown into the Monaco harbour during an F2 event.