# Guess the podium: French weekend --> Magny Cours

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### #1 Schummy

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Posted 18 July 2002 - 00:57

Clermont-Ferrand, Pau, "Whole" Paul Ricard, Le Mans... what a lot of great circuits they have in France and... err... Magny Cours

This is being a repetitive pattern in my (pathetic) intros to this guessing game: I say ironies about the circuit and I say how good were the classic one, but in the end I rescue somehow its qualities. I'm sorry for the lack of variety but I think about 80-90% of current F1 fans could say nowadays tracks are not particularly great (with exceptions). Anyway, they are not so bad (and so good neither) and modern facilities are great(?),etc... can you see the pattern happening again?

To ask rhetorically who can win this race seems superfluous, and I don't have to name any driver for this particular question ;) More and more often, people resign to guess that-driver as win and play with the two lower podium positions. With all this determinism how are we supposed to catch the leaders!

I just watched Stars Wars Episode II: really great even if we knew who were going to win at the end... oh, I was talking about the film.

----------------------------Warning! The Usual Boring Part Ahead! ---------------------------

It consists in guessing the three firsts in F1 races. You do an ordered guess (i.e. MS-JPM-RS) and a score is given according to real podium results. The scoring system is as explained here:

Suppose you do the guess MS-JPM-RS.

If MS is 1st, 3 points
if MS is 2nd, 2 points
if MS is 3rd, 1 point

If JPM is 1st, 2 points
if JPM is 2nd, 2 points
if JPM is 3rd, 1 point

If RS is 1st, 2nd or 3rd, 1 point

It another driver makes a podium position, it doesn't give any points.

The key for this system is not "gambling" on the exact position but to do a realistic shot at the relative merit of each driver in that GP. For instance, you are not penalized for JPM being first and not 2nd, as the penalty comes by not scoring with MS's first position.

In order to have a reference I will enter two "dummy" players: Bernie and Max (the names were chosen randomly ). Bernie always guesses the firsts three qualifyers, and Max always guesses the firsts three classified in WDC current points table. Can you outscore B&M?

Any guess can be done before one hour before the official first start of the race. We will use the "official" Atlas Forum clock to resolve close entries.

Sometimes ;) I calculate a new secundary classification with average score to give an opportunity to no so constant players, that fail to guess from time to time.

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gerry, Estwald , can you send me thru private messaging what software you use predicting podiums? Is it Perl, Python, Mapple, Metastock, APL? What database you use? Are you going to sell your secret to me? \$500, \$750, \$1000?

To Viss1, Ghostrider, SeanValen, Makarias (who came back from his vacation), sek, dynamite7 : don't leave the fight! gerry nassar and Estwald are the currently the best and the best have to win this game but there are still many races and maybe one day DC can win and someone can gain a lot of ground in the ranking ;) Or both of Williams can end the race... can you imagine? A wealth of surprises are waiting to happend (I suppose...).

And now, just to say good luck and a nice weekend (in and out of F1) for everyone

### #2 LB

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Posted 18 July 2002 - 01:30

M Schumacher
Montoya
R Schumacher

This is when DC hits the podium

### #3 Schummy

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Posted 18 July 2002 - 01:51

LOL!

And it would be specially tragic in your case ;) But, wait a minute... I see two BMWs in your podium! Oh, God save you!

### #4 shaila

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Posted 18 July 2002 - 02:23

JPM - MS - RS

### #5 Estwald

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Posted 18 July 2002 - 05:32

MSch-Barr-Mont

I don't know about gerry, but I use the Cray Supercomputer

### #6 CaptnMark

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Posted 18 July 2002 - 05:39

MSch-Mont-Coul

### #7 TT6

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Posted 18 July 2002 - 07:22

1. Michael Schumacher
2. Kimi Räikkönen
3. Rubens Barichello

### #8 lukywill

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Posted 18 July 2002 - 09:24

MSch-Mont-Barri

### #9 Zawed

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Posted 18 July 2002 - 10:17

MSch-RSch-Barr

### #10 dynamite7

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Posted 18 July 2002 - 11:42

MSCH-BARR-MONT

### #11 Viss1

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Posted 18 July 2002 - 12:12

MSch-RB-JPM

### #12 Woking

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Posted 18 July 2002 - 15:01

JPM-RSCH-MSCH.

### #13 Bjorn

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Posted 18 July 2002 - 18:47

MS - JPM - RS

### #14 Hi Test

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Posted 18 July 2002 - 19:37

Barr-Msch-Vill

### #15 Schuting Star

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Posted 18 July 2002 - 20:04

Schummy, I'm away for the German gp so I'm giving you my guess for that as well, I hope that's alright.

France MSch-Barr-RSch

Germany MSch-Mont-RSch

### #16 fisichella_2001

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Posted 18 July 2002 - 20:52

MSCH-RSCH-MONT

### #17 DeathMasteR

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Posted 18 July 2002 - 22:22

MSch-RB-JPM

### #18 Schummy

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Posted 18 July 2002 - 22:50

Schuting Star: Of course it is ok! What I'm afraid of is if Bernie&Max can take the opportunity to catch and sink you ;)

Estwald: What a disappointment! I just can use a Palm Pilot... in fact I post here thru a wireless one But, let's hope gerry uses a Win CE, and maybe I have chance.

### #19 420

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Posted 18 July 2002 - 23:21

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Posted 18 July 2002 - 23:24

MSCH-RB-JPM

### #21 gerry nassar

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Posted 19 July 2002 - 00:38

Schummy - I use a WIN CE

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### #22 MONTOYASPEED

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Posted 19 July 2002 - 01:46

Mont-Rsch-Msch

### #23 Schuting Star

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Posted 19 July 2002 - 10:21

Originally posted by Schummy
Schuting Star: Of course it is ok! What I'm afraid of is if Bernie&Max can take the opportunity to catch and sink you ;)

I fear it's only a matter of time... The optimist in me tells me my luck has got to change sometime!

### #24 Chrissy Boy

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Posted 20 July 2002 - 10:44

Barr-Coul-Mont

### #25 fillern

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Posted 20 July 2002 - 10:49

MSCH-BARR-MONT

### #26 SeanValen

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Posted 20 July 2002 - 12:50

MSCH-BARR-MONT

### #27 Schummy

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Posted 20 July 2002 - 16:15

function test(a,b)
{
if (a == b) then
return(1)
else
return(0);
}

--------

function(fillern,SeanValen)

1

;)

### #28 Schummy

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Posted 20 July 2002 - 16:55

Oh! When I compiled it I saw a bug. It's:

test(fillern,SeanValen)

1

### #29 Ghostrider

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Posted 20 July 2002 - 22:57

I am not looking forward to the race without Fisi!

But anyway

MSCH-MONT-BARR

### #30 Makarias

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Posted 20 July 2002 - 23:03

MSCH-MONT-BARR

Have to try something different to catch those blokes.

### #31 Schummy

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Posted 21 July 2002 - 00:28

Carlos Sainz becomes a bit McRaeish

### #32 Schummy

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Posted 21 July 2002 - 04:46

MAX: MSCH - RB - JPM
BERNIE: JPM - MSCH - RB

Schummy: MSCH - RB - JPM

### #33 sek

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Posted 21 July 2002 - 11:15

Sorry Schummy, I'm a bit late. Anyway, I hope this counts.

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### #34 LB

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Posted 21 July 2002 - 15:44

Originally posted by LB
M Schumacher
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R Schumacher

This is when DC hits the podium

I knew it....

### #35 SeanValen

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Posted 21 July 2002 - 16:30

Originally posted by Schummy
Oh! When I compiled it I saw a bug. It's:

test(fillern,SeanValen)

1

So what does that mean Schummy 5 times World Champion, will I still get my points?

### #36 Schummy

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Posted 21 July 2002 - 16:49

sek: "rules" say one hour before the race but I think provisionally I can do an exception as you were a good 45min before the race and it cannot be interpreted as an advantage IMHO. I hope nobody protests, but if someone has a good argument maybe your entry will have to be disabled
BTW, I see you did a good job spotting Kimi Let's see what it means, clasification wise.

LB: oh! It happened! Ms. Reality has a taste for irony.

SeanValen: I'm sorry I cannot give extra points in celebration for "my" fifth WDC! BTW, I'm sorry for Kimi, I was looking forward for his first GP.

### #37 SeanValen

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Posted 21 July 2002 - 16:58

Originally posted by Schummy
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SeanValen: I'm sorry I cannot give extra points in celebration for "my" fifth WDC! BTW, I'm sorry for Kimi, I was looking forward for his first GP.

A sign of things to come from Kimi, take the positive.