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#101 Giraffe

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Posted 14 January 2010 - 22:51

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Doug and Clive Chapman contemplate Jim's 38 at last year's Goodwood Festival of Speed.

Edited by Giraffe, 14 January 2010 - 22:53.


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#102 RA Historian

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 01:32

DCN is probably the gentleman to fill us in on the details. I noticed no placard with claims and could not see the chassis tag for the number. Taken at face value, it's representing the 7th place Bobby Johns 1965 Team car.

Thanks to your photos, Brian, I see where the car in the IMS Museum is numbered 83, whereas the winning car is numbered 82. So it likely is the Johns car and the Museum is not passing it off as something different, which is what they have done with the Lotus 29 they have on display.
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#103 Wouter Melissen

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 07:50

Great shots, Brian! By any chance did it have a card by it making any claims? As I understand it, the actual Lotus 38 with which Clark won the 65 500 is in the Ford Museum. If so, what is this car?
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According to http://www.oldracing...es/lotus/38.htm it is 38/4.

#104 Allen Brown

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 13:34

Thanks Wouter, you just beat me to it!

#105 RA Historian

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 14:44

Silly me! I should have remembered to check ORC first!
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#106 maplestone71

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 23:56

The last couple of Quarterly reviews on the Classic Team Lotus site include comments about some evaluation activity being undertaken on 38/1 which may lead to its restoration to running order ... :love:

Jon

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#107 Pullman99

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Posted 07 June 2010 - 20:32

Just wondered if there had been any further information regarding Lotus 38/1 now being unavailable for the Lotus Festival at Snetterton on 20th June. An appearance at Goodwood perhaps? I do hope that there will be an opportunity to see the car here in the UK before it goes back to the Henry Ford Museum.

Edited by Pullman99, 11 June 2010 - 16:22.


#108 B Squared

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Posted 07 June 2010 - 23:56

Just wondered if there had been any further information regarding Lotus 38/1 now being unavailable for the Lotus Festival at Snetterton on 20th June. An appearance at Goodwood perhaps? I do hope that there will be ana opportunity to see the car here in the UK before it goes back to the Henry Ford Museum.


When I saw my friend Walter Goodwin (who recently rebuilt the engine in the Clark winning 38) on Pole Day morning in Indianapolis, he'd just returned from the UK and as of that time, he believed the car was supposed to be at Goodwood.

#109 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 08 June 2010 - 01:15

As a matter of interest why was Esso known as Enco in the US. The stickers on the car are the same script etc and the Tiger ofcourse.
I though Esso was a world wide name then?

#110 Arjan de Roos

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Posted 08 June 2010 - 08:19

As a matter of interest why was Esso known as Enco in the US. The stickers on the car are the same script etc and the Tiger ofcourse.
I though Esso was a world wide name then?

Enco was a marketing name for Humble Oil (later part of Exxon). In some States they could not use the Esso name. They both used the Tiger in the Tank!

#111 B Squared

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 12:29

A few more shots of the Bobby Johns Lotus 38. Taken within the last month. I don't care how many pictures I've taken of this car, I still have to snap a few more. I can't believe that I get to be within touching distance of this iconic car from time to time. As a seven year old seeing it for the first time in 1965, who would ever have dreamed.

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#112 Andrew Kitson

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 14:04

When I saw my friend Walter Goodwin (who recently rebuilt the engine in the Clark winning 38) on Pole Day morning in Indianapolis, he'd just returned from the UK and as of that time, he believed the car was supposed to be at Goodwood.

It will be at Goodwood, with Jackie Stewart driving it, but it won't be at Snetterton sadly.


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Posted 11 June 2010 - 16:22

It will be at Goodwood, with Jackie Stewart driving it, but it won't be at Snetterton sadly.


Thanks Andrew. I am aiming to be at Goodwood on the Saturday. Can hardly wait that long! :)

Edited by Pullman99, 14 June 2010 - 19:18.


#114 David McKinney

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 16:54

It will be at Goodwood, with Jackie Stewart driving it, but it won't be at Snetterton sadly.

Will it be a Snetterton happily instead?

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 20:17

Will it be a Snetterton happily instead?


It would be nice if it was there. Anyway, Snetterton is always a happy place (except in a force 10 gale and snow heading in from the Urals)! :)

Edited by Pullman99, 12 June 2010 - 20:18.


#116 B Squared

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 01:19

I just received this link that I thought others may enjoy as much as I. The same Lotus 38 that I photographed in May (see post #111) being run by Jimmy Vasser at IMS with Takuma Sato running the Lotus sponsored Dallara IndyCar side by side.

My friend Walter Goodwin is the gentleman who is in charge of the mechanicals and running of the 38. He also rebuilt the engine in the Clark 38.

Thanks to Aaron Lewis for the link.



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Posted 14 June 2010 - 01:51

More footage of a running Lotus 38. This time, Jim Clark's:



Again, thanks to Aaron Lewis and Terry Gunter at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.