Le Mans cars
#1
Posted 12 September 2002 - 17:52
does anyone have information about cars of lemans between years 1923-1973.
bye bye
#3
Posted 12 September 2002 - 19:06
#4
Posted 12 September 2002 - 19:07
Originally posted by calo
Hello again
does anyone have information about cars of lemans between years 1923-1973.
bye bye
That's a lot of cars
Care to narrow it down a little?
PdeRL
#5
Posted 12 September 2002 - 19:30
#6
Posted 12 September 2002 - 23:22
Originally posted by Ray Bell
Here's one...
Hi Ray....
Never saw that breadvan before.......is it 66 or 67??
And doesn't the windscreen look like taken from a Ferrari 250 LM?
Vince
#7
Posted 12 September 2002 - 23:25
#8
Posted 12 September 2002 - 23:27
#9
Posted 13 September 2002 - 00:27
Was it Scuderia Fillipinetti who built it? Anyway, it was either 1962 or 1963. Maybe it was a car from the previous year rebodied... but that would only be if it were 1962... nobody would have gone any other way than to get a GTO if it were for '63.
Certainly it was there alongside GTOs...
#10
Posted 13 September 2002 - 03:36
There was a Ferrari 250 GTO "Bread van" in 1962, but it didn't look anywhere near as awful as this - and it was red.
#11
Posted 13 September 2002 - 05:03
Well, maybe that's a fresh mystery to clear up?
#12
Posted 13 September 2002 - 05:23
#13
Posted 13 September 2002 - 08:22
#14
Posted 13 September 2002 - 09:10
I obtained the picture in the following way...
Looking through books in a second hand shop at Zillmere in Brisbane, I found this unused but quite old (maybe ten or fifteen years old) book that was intended for people using their private cars for work to keep a log of the work mileage over the year.
This picture is simply on the cover! With no title, no explanation, nothing!
#15
Posted 15 September 2002 - 10:13
Someone in here must have a clue about this breadvan. I think the aerodynamics around the wheels are more modern, than '62....
And I still get that Ferrari 250 LM/275 gtb/250gto(LM style) feeling about the lower part of the windscreen.
hmmm
#16
Posted 15 September 2002 - 10:25
I need convincing that it's actually a Ferrari at all ...
#17
Posted 16 September 2002 - 17:23
#19
Posted 20 November 2008 - 18:58
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#20
Posted 20 November 2008 - 19:18
Its going to bug me as I am sure as I have seen the same picture somewhere else recently, googled everything I can think of without success.
#21
Posted 20 November 2008 - 19:38
Originally posted by Ray Bell
Revitalised so someone can, perhaps, identify this car...
Try post #60 in the Ferrari 'Breadvan' thread: http://forums.autosp...&threadid=53725
#22
Posted 20 November 2008 - 20:02
Frank S
#23
Posted 20 November 2008 - 21:01
#24
Posted 20 November 2008 - 21:38
Originally posted by PS30-SB
Try post #60 in the Ferrari 'Breadvan' thread: http://forums.autosp...&threadid=53725
Amazing... I feel sure I've never seen that post before! I must have been away working when that was posted.
So a Fairlady with some mods... and it was quicker than the others. Nice... I wonder if its builder ever thought it would achieve international recognition because its picture was used on a tax record book?
#25
Posted 21 November 2008 - 06:18
#26
Posted 21 November 2008 - 09:12
Originally posted by proviz
The car is definitely Japanese and I have a magazine with photo caption that will tell what it is. May take some time to locate that mag again, but watch this space...
But the car and it's owner / driver have already been identified. Look at post #60 in this thread:
http://forums.autosp...&threadid=53725
Here's a quote from that post:
Originally posted by PS30-SB That's a pic of the 'Fairlady RS20-II' - a privateer effort based on an SP311 Nissan 'Fairlady 1600' roadster chassis - designed, built and driven by Mr Masao NAKAMURA in conjunction with Onda Jidosha ( Onda Motors ) of Yashio City, Saitama prefecture, Japan ( just north of Tokyo ).
The car debuted at the 4th running of the 'Diamond Trophy Race' at Fuji Speedway on 4th September 1968, and won it's class.
The aluminium body was built by Onda Jidosha over a "semi space frame" that was attached to the original Fairlady chassis, and featured gullwing doors and the severe Kamm-inspired rear end treatment. The U20 OHC engine from the SR311 Fairlady was used rather than the R16 engine that originally came with the SP311 chassis. Contemporary reports give the weight of the car as 766kg.
If you are still unconvinced I can post more..........
#27
Posted 21 November 2008 - 10:18
While looking I did find this photo collection page that may be of interest to others about Japanese race cars
http://homepage2.nif...tsu/Photo1.html
#28
Posted 21 November 2008 - 10:53
#29
Posted 21 November 2008 - 12:18
The two-tome Le Mans history is essential, of course, but this Japanese thing never ran there.