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#1 Doug Nye

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Posted 15 September 2002 - 21:30

As one who normally waxes poisonously about what Ford and Jaguar racing between them have done to the Jaguar legend - well done today... 7th place in the Italian GP improved by the defection of both McLarens and both Williamses, but well done Edmund and Jahgwah...

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#2 Option1

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Posted 15 September 2002 - 22:50

Ummm, Doug, I'm wondering if that "7th" was meant to be "3rd"? ;)

Or have I, as is my want, missed some sly piece of wit?

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#3 LittleChris

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Posted 15 September 2002 - 23:06

That's what I thought at first, then read what Doug posted a bit more carefully !

#4 Option1

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Posted 15 September 2002 - 23:18

Originally posted by LittleChris
That's what I thought at first, then read what Doug posted a bit more carefully !

Ahhh, stupid me, I had a feeling I'd got it wrong. :blush:

That'll teach me to post when I'm sleep-deprived - that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.

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#5 Ray Bell

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Posted 15 September 2002 - 23:26

Nahh... your posting was fine...

It was your reading that left a little to be desired.

Silly thing is that I read it too... and didn't see that little key to the real meaning myself. Yet when I saw LittleChris' post and went back I saw it instantly!

#6 Viss1

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Posted 16 September 2002 - 13:27

Happy to see Jag moving up, but I'd give a lot of the credit to Cosworth.

#7 Bladrian

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Posted 16 September 2002 - 17:35

I believe Swerve drove a fine race - husbanded his resources, pushed when he had to, stroked it when he needed to conserve the car. Thoroughly professional job. And fast with it.

Now - I'd like to see him wound up, stuck into a quicker D-type, and pointed at Fordwater ..... hoooeeee!

#8 dmj

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Posted 17 September 2002 - 11:42

Provide Eddie a good car and he will probably make a good result. It is more than you can say about vast majority of other today's drivers...

#9 Ray Bell

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Posted 17 September 2002 - 13:25

How come Eddie is suddenly called 'Swerve'...

And where does the name come from?

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Posted 17 September 2002 - 13:29

Originally posted by dmj
It is more than you can say about vast majority of other today's drivers...

On the contrary, I think it is just what you CAN say about almost all of the other drivers, both today and in the past. Put Bernoldi or Weber or McNish in the F2002 and I think that any of them would be able to get onto the podium.

The difference between "ordinary" drivers, if we can use such a term about guys who reach F1, and the really special ones is the ability to get good results even when the car isn't au point. For instance, Senna wringing the neck of the recalcitrant Toleman at Monaco, or Gilles hustling that turbocharged Ferrari barge around Jerez in front of all-comers - add your own favourite here.  ;)

#11 IanDalziel

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Posted 17 September 2002 - 13:53

Originally posted by Ray Bell
How come Eddie is suddenly called 'Swerve'...

And where does the name come from?


Irv the swerve?

#12 dmj

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Posted 17 September 2002 - 14:46

Originally posted by BRG
On the contrary, I think it is just what you CAN say about almost all of the other drivers, both today and in the past. Put Bernoldi or Weber or McNish in the F2002 and I think that any of them would be able to get onto the podium.

The difference between "ordinary" drivers, if we can use such a term about guys who reach F1, and the really special ones is the ability to get good results even when the car isn't au point. For instance, Senna wringing the neck of the recalcitrant Toleman at Monaco, or Gilles hustling that turbocharged Ferrari barge around Jerez in front of all-comers - add your own favourite here.  ;)

Jaguar isn't F2002. I agree that everyone would constantly be a podium finisher in a ferrari these days. However, I doubt that any of three drivers you mentioned would finish where Eddie did in Sunday, if they were in Jaguar...

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Posted 17 September 2002 - 17:53

'Swerve' is the name Eddie has carried from his early F1 days - he caused one or two horrendous pile-ups by not sticking to the racing line. Hence Irv the Swerve .....

#14 Ray Bell

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Posted 17 September 2002 - 21:44

Funny that I've never noticed or heard it before now...

And I would take issue with one of those he was accused of causing, that big one in Argentina (?) with Jos Verstappen... but that's not the point here, is it?

#15 Doug Nye

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Posted 17 September 2002 - 21:46

Brathil...

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#16 Ray Bell

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Posted 17 September 2002 - 22:41

Thankth for the correction mithter Nye...