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#1 WGD706

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 00:02

Stirling Moss started out the 1957 season driving a Maserati; four months after the opening round of the World Championship in Argentina the Grand Prix teams gathered at Monaco for round two where Moss had switched to Vanwall.
By the opening race of 1958, Moss was released by Vanwall and appeared in Rob Walker's Cooper-Climax 43, with which he won the race.
But by the next GP at Monaco, he was back in a Vanwall!
Can anyone shed some light on this switching of seats?
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#2 Wolf

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 00:49

In both cases Vanwals were no starters. I'm not sure about '57, but in '58 they had problems with change in the regs. Their big cylinders were ideal for fuel with alcohol (it tended to cool the internals during intake cycle), whereas this proved to be the troubl with switch to AVGAS... IIRC, BRM seemed to miss the Argentine race on similar grounds.

#3 David McKinney

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 05:49

What Wolf is saying is that Moss signed to drive for Vanwall in 1957 and 1958, but was released to drive for other teams in Argentina both years in the absence of the Vanwalls

#4 Barry Boor

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 06:34

Put simply, back in the 1950s, a contract was a very different thing to what it is now. If a team, however major their status, was unable to provide a car for one of their drivers, his participation in the race was THE important factor. Therefore, he would be free to get a ride more or less wherever he could.

Mercedes saw no problem with Fangio driving for Maserati early in '54 when their cars were not yet ready; nor Lancia with Ascari.

How times have changed!

#5 Vrba

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Posted 24 September 2002 - 11:33

Originally posted by Barry Boor
Put simply, back in the 1950s, a contract was a very different thing to what it is now. If a team, however major their status, was unable to provide a car for one of their drivers, his participation in the race was THE important factor. Therefore, he would be free to get a ride more or less wherever he could.

Mercedes saw no problem with Fangio driving for Maserati early in '54 when their cars were not yet ready; nor Lancia with Ascari.

How times have changed!


Fangio said that prior to 1954 season, when it was obvious that Mercedes wouldn't race in opening races, he could choose between being paid by Mercedes and missing those races or not receiving the money from Mercedes while racing with another team.
So, whether we consider it as Mercedes seing or not seeing a problem is doubtable, in a way.

Hrvoje