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#1 Don Capps

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Posted 03 October 2002 - 14:33

I am trying to track down some items and running out of both time and resources. In some cases I have conflicting information and in other cases I have nothing. Here are a few things I am trying to nail down:

1. David Bruce-Brown's birthday -- day and month?

2. Jimmy Murphy's birthday -- day and month?

3. The birthplace of Rick Miaskiewicw?

4. The deathplace of Tommy Milton?

5. The birthday -- day and month, and birthplace (it's in Nebraska) of Earl Cooper?

6. The birthday and birthplace of Bob Garretson?

7. The birthday and birthplace of Ralph Mulford?

8. The birthday and date and place of death of George Heath?

9. Where in Nevada did Louie Meyer die?

10. Birthday and place of death of Louis Schneider?

11. Place of death for Michele "Kelly" Petillo?

Any help appreciated. Thanks! :up:

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#2 tifoso

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Posted 03 October 2002 - 17:30

Don,

Sorry no place of death for Petillo. However, seeing his name reminded me of one of my favorite descriptions of him:

His demanding traits were only exceeded by his racing ability. His miserable disposition was legend. Another car owner said that he would have loved to have Kelly drive for him, "if you could just bring him to the track in a cage and only open it to put him in the car."

This is from June Ward Dougherty, Harvey Ward's daughter.

#3 Allen Brown

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Posted 03 October 2002 - 18:10

Is that Rick Miaskiewicz? As in 1986 Can-Am champion?

If so, I'll go through some Can-Am programs down in the garage.

Allen

#4 Vitesse2

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Posted 03 October 2002 - 18:14

A definite year for Bruce-Brown would be nice ...

#5 Don Capps

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Posted 03 October 2002 - 18:16

Originally posted by Vitesse2
A definite year for Bruce-Brown would be nice ...


Survey says..... 1887....

.........but, I really need the day and month....

#6 Buford

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Posted 03 October 2002 - 19:10

Originally posted by tifoso
Don,

Sorry no place of death for Petillo. However, seeing his name reminded me of one of my favorite descriptions of him:

This is from June Ward Dougherty, Harvey Ward's daughter.



I know he spent time in prison. I have his autograph! Got it at Indy when I was a kid and filled up an autograph book.

#7 Jim Thurman

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Posted 03 October 2002 - 22:29

Originally posted by Don Capps
I am trying to track down some items and running out of both time and resources. In some cases I have conflicting information and in other cases I have nothing. Here are a few things I am trying to nail down:

9. Where in Nevada did Louie Meyer die?

10. Birthday and place of death of Louis Schneider?

11. Place of death for Michele "Kelly" Petillo?

Any help appreciated. Thanks! :up:


Don, these are some tough ones.

I believe Louis Meyer died in a Las Vegas hospital. He had been living way out in the desert near Searchlight, Nevada.

Kelly Petillo died in either Los Angeles or Huntington Park.

I don't think I have the kind of details I had for Pete DePaolo, but I'll check (probably over the weekend).


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#8 Don Capps

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Posted 03 October 2002 - 22:35

Thanks, everybody! Keep looking! :up:

#9 Ray Bell

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Posted 04 October 2002 - 01:03

Originally posted by Don Capps
Survey says..... 1887....

.........but, I really need the day and month....



"Survey"?

Hans explored this deeply some months ago... I don't recall there being a definite answer, but I do think (without checking) that the birth date (as in month and day) was found.

Don't quote me...

#10 Jim Thurman

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Posted 04 October 2002 - 05:51

Rick Miaskiewicz, b. March 22, 1953 Pittsburgh, PA

Now if this gets to Allen to keep him from digging through the programs.

And FWIW, I recall Kelly Petillo died from emphysema.


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#11 Hans Etzrodt

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Posted 04 October 2002 - 07:18

Originally posted by Ray Bell
"Survey"?

Hans explored this deeply some months ago... I don't recall there being a definite answer, but I do think (without checking) that the birth date (as in month and day) was found.

Don't quote me...

Ray,
Thank you for the memories. This attention coming from you, one of the down under, chasing roos for pure pleasure, is indeed a great compliment for an islander like me, meaning that at least one qualified person remembered our hard work on that subject.

I admit that I have spent a good part of my life on the birth date matter, even on a leisure cruise around the Hawaiian Isles did I inspire a lovely lady passenger on our cruise ship to do some research on this mysterious fellow. But it was all to no avail.

However, the only person who came up with new material about David Bruce-Brown was Tony Kaye, the indomitable researcher of old style (meaning: HARD WORK), who was able to dig up more new stuff than you can find in Fred Wagner's book combined with that of Peter Helck and Julian Quattlebaum. But again no birthdate.

Don,
I think it is your turn now. Do you have any connections to the FBI? ;)

#12 Allen Brown

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Posted 04 October 2002 - 07:49

Originally posted by Jim Thurman
Rick Miaskiewicz, b. March 22, 1953 Pittsburgh, PA

Now if this gets to Allen to keep him from digging through the programs.

And FWIW, I recall Kelly Petillo died from emphysema.


Jim Thurman

Thanks Jim.

Allen

#13 Don Capps

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Posted 04 October 2002 - 17:39

Originally posted by Jim Thurman
Rick Miaskiewicz, b. March 22, 1953 Pittsburgh, PA

Now if this gets to Allen to keep him from digging through the programs.

And FWIW, I recall Kelly Petillo died from emphysema.


Jim Thurman


Jim,

Thanks! That is in synch with what I had, but I then came across something quite different.....

#14 Jim Thurman

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Posted 05 October 2002 - 06:51

Originally posted by Don Capps


Jim,

Thanks! That is in synch with what I had, but I then came across something quite different.....


You're welcome...but maybe we'd better co-ordinate sources. My source was the CART '88 Media Guide. What was yours?...and where did the discrepancy occur?

And no problem Allen. I've been there and done that! :)

Anytime one of us in this group can prevent another from digging through the deep, dank vaults...it's worth doing.


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#15 Ray Bell

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Posted 05 October 2002 - 10:11

Originally posted by Hans Etzrodt
Ray,
.... meaning that at least one qualified person remembered our hard work on that subject.


Qualified?

Curious, maybe... and I do like a good mystery. I'm sure others remember, Hans...