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#1 Makarias

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Posted 31 October 2002 - 23:02

It's November again, and that means that we have no F1 to watch.
So why not take a look into the future instead?
And make a little competition out of it?
I can hear you all saying "Yes! Great idea Mak!" now :D

Oh golly, this sounds exciting! How do I enter?
You just post a reply to this thread with what you think will be the driving pairings that each of the at most twelve teams will present for the first GP of 2004!
Please try to be clear about the drivers' names; I might not have heard of some rookies that you have listed, so a full name for new drivers (and other drivers that are easy to mix up otherwise too) would be appreciated. You don't have to list more teams than you think that there will be around in 2004.

I want points! There's no point in having a competition if you don't score points!
-You will score five points for each driver that you have put in the right team.
-If a driver you have listed in one team drives for another one, you will score two points for him/her.
-If a driver that you have listed won't be driving for any team, you will score 0 points for that driver, unless the driver in question would have raced for some team but is "temporarily unavailable" due to injury or ban.
-If you happen to put the same driver in several teams, you will only score points for the best guess of those.
-If you don't list twelve teams, you will score points for the missing seats if there aren't twelve teams around in 2004. Five points/driver if the team you left out is missing, two points/driver if there's another team missing.
-You can also guess for an UNKNOWN driver (with no given name) taking a seat in a team. The meaning of "unknown" here is that the driver hasn't been mentioned in any other entry for this competition. The unknown driver can only give you points if he/she is in that very team where you have guessed for an unknown.

Are there any awards?
Eternal glory and bragging rights if you manage to beat someone.
Also note that this competition is nowhere near being included in any silly Supercup thingy...

When is the deadline?
In order to get the entries within a reasonably short time span, the competition is open for entries and edits approximately until November ends, CET.

And here are my guesses:

Ferrari:  M Schumacher Barrichello

Williams: Montoya	  Villeneuve

McLaren:  Räikkönen	Coulthard

Renault:  Trulli	   Alonso

Sauber:   Heidfeld	 Heikki Kovalainen

Jordan:   Fisichella   Massa

BAR:	  Button	   Justin Wilson

Jaguar:   Webber	   Ralf Schumacher

Minardi:  Verstappen   Björn Wirdheim

Toyota:   Panis		Sato

A few wild guesses and a whole lot of wishful thinking for sure! Though I assume Arrows won't be around anymore :

A note for those who entered the 2003 competition: I'm terribly sorry that the results aren't up yet, but it appears that the first race of 2003 will not be run in over four months yet! Those lazy bastards in F1 :(

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#2 The Sensational

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Posted 01 November 2002 - 18:41

Do you want to change your guess yet?

;)

#3 Alapan

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Posted 01 November 2002 - 22:22

What the hell, why not ....

Ferrari: M Schumacher Barrichello
Williams: Montoya Ralf Schumacher
McLaren: Räikkönen Heidfeld
Renault: Trulli Alonso
Sauber: Massa Some 21 year old from Latvia
Jordan: Fisichella Sato
BAR: Button Justin Wilson
Jaguar: Webber Pizzonia
Minardi: Verstappen Enrique Bernoldi
Toyota: Panis Villeneuve

And yeah, Ferrari will be having three wheels as the whole ballast thing fell through this year.

#4 Nasty McBastard

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Posted 02 November 2002 - 13:39

ferrari : m schumacher + r barrichello
williams: r schumacher + j montoya
mclaren: k raikonnen + d coulthard
renault: m webber +j trulli
jordan: g fisichella + b junquira
jaguar: e bernoldi + f alonso
sauber: n heidedfd + feotus #1
toyota: c da matta + t sato
minardi: j wilson + unknown
bar: j button + o panis

or some such ****

#5 Flying Panda

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Posted 03 November 2002 - 09:53

Ferrari - R. Barrichello, M. Schumacher
Williams - J. Montoya, R. Schumacher
McLaren - K. Raikkonen, D. Coulthard
Renault - F. Alonso, J. Trulli
Jordan - G. Fisichella, T. Sato
Jaguar - M. Webber, A. Pizzonia
Sauber - N. Heidfeld, F. Massa
BAR - J. Button, J. Villeneuve
Minardi - J. Verstappen, M. Dominguez
Toyota - C. da Matta, O. Panis

Guess subject to change.

#6 Makarias

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Posted 03 November 2002 - 14:44

Yeah, I screwed up the topic of course, it's about 2004, nothing else. Thanks to Neu for fixing it! :)

#7 MONTOYASPEED

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Posted 03 November 2002 - 18:14

Originally posted by Flying Panda
Minardi: M. Dominguez


:lol: :lol: :lol: That was hilarious!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

#8 lukywill

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Posted 03 November 2002 - 22:43

Ferrari - F.Massa - R. Barrichello
Williams - J. Montoya, A.Pizzonia
McLaren - K. Raikkonen, D. Coulthard
Renault - F. Alonso, D.Richardson
Jordan - G. Fisichella, T. Sato
Jaguar - M. Webber, Pdala Rosa
Sauber - N. Heidfeld, HH Frentzen
BAR - J. Villeneuve, J. Button
Minardi - Castroneves, A Yoong
Toyota - O. Panis, C. da Matta,

#9 Flying Panda

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Posted 04 November 2002 - 07:33

huh? 2004 !!!
damn.
Caught me out on that one. my guess is sure to change by the end of november... :)

Originally posted by MONTOYASPEED
:lol: :lol: :lol: That was hilarious!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Stranger things have happened...;)

#10 TT6

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Posted 04 November 2002 - 12:23


Ferrari:  Villeneuve			  Barrichello

Williams: Montoya				 Pizzonia

McLaren:  Räikkönen			   Coulthard

Renault:  Heikki Kovalainen	   Alonso

Sauber:   Heidfeld				Nico Rosberg

Jordan:   Fisichella			  Sato

BAR:	  Button				  Justin Wilson

Jaguar:   Webber				  Ralf Schumacher

Minardi:  Frenzen				 Massa	   

Toyota:   Panis				   Da Matta

Arrows 

renamed:  Verstappen			  Mika Salo


#11 Ric Bol

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Posted 04 November 2002 - 20:44

Lets try..... 2004:


Ferrari:   M. Schumacher / R. Barrichello

Williams:   J. P. Montoya / A. Pizzonia

McLaren:   K. Raikkonen / F. Massa

Renault:   J. Trulli / D. Coulthard

Sauber:   N. Heidfeld / G. Pantano

Jordan:   R. Schumacher / J. Button 

Jaguar:   M. Webber / M. Gene

BAR:   J. Villeneuve /  F. Alonso

Toyota:   C. da Matta / O. Panis

Minardi:   A. Davidson / P. de la Rosa


#12 Jimmino

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Posted 05 November 2002 - 07:30

Ferrari: M.Schumacher Barrichello
Williams: Montoya N.Piquet
McLaren: Räikkönen Coulthard
Renault: Trulli Alonso
Sauber: Heidfeld Frentzen
Jordan: Fisichella Ralf Schumacher
BAR: Button Castroneves
Jaguar: Webber Pizzonia
Minardi: Davidson Massa
Toyota: Nico Rosberg Da Matta
Arrows or successor: Irvine Bernoldi

#13 LuckyStrike1

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Posted 06 November 2002 - 23:24

Ferrari: M. Schumacher & R.Barrichello
Williams: J. Montoya & R.Schumacher
McLaren: K.Räikkönen & N. Heidfeld
Renault: J. Trulli & F.Alonso
Sauber: H-H. Frentzen & A.Wurz
Jordan: G. Fisichella & anyone cheap with rich sponsors
BAR: J.Button & J.Villeneuve
Jaguar: M. Webber & A.Pizzonia
Minardi: two guys with rich sponsors
Toyota: O. Panis & C. da Matta

#14 KinetiK

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Posted 07 November 2002 - 01:24

Ferrari: M Schumacher & F Massa & L Burti
Williams: JP Montoya & B Junqiera & J Wilson
McLaren: K.Räikkönen & G Fisichella & N Heidfeld
Renault: J Trulli & F Alonso & S Bourdais
Volkswagen Sauber: R Schumacher & HHF Frentzen & N Piquet Jr
BAR: J Button & A Davidson & R Kerr
Jaguar: D Coulthard & M. Webber & A.Pizzonia
Toyota: R Barrichello & C. da Matta & O Panis

#15 TT6

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Posted 07 November 2002 - 09:51

Originally posted by Makarias

Oh golly, this sounds exciting! How do I enter?[/b]
You just post a reply to this thread with what you think will be the driving pairings that each of the at most twelve teams will present for the first GP of 2004!


I strongly protest. KinetiK has placed three drivers in the teams instead of pairings. We need a clarification of the rules from FIA.

#16 babbel

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Posted 07 November 2002 - 10:38

Ferrari : MSchumacher & Barrichello
Williams : Pizzonia & Montoya
Mclaren : Heidfeld & Raikkonen
Renaul : Alonso & Trulli
Sauber : Kovalainen & Massa
Jordan : Fisichella & Carbone
BAR : Button & Sato
Jaguar : Coulthard & Courtney
Minardi : Wilson & Verstappen
Toyota : da Matta & Briscoe

#17 KinetiK

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Posted 07 November 2002 - 15:08

Originally posted by TT6


I strongly protest. KinetiK has placed three drivers in the teams instead of pairings. We need a clarification of the rules from FIA.


I believe the Concorde agreement states that if there are less than nine teams, the remaining teams are obligated to produce three racing entries. The protest is null & void as I am clearly following the letter of the rules, you can take the spirit and mix it with some Coca Cola if you'd like! :lol: ;)

#18 Makarias

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Posted 07 November 2002 - 19:38

Oh geesh, this competition is tricky to manage! All these special cases and stuff... I'll have to think a while about what to do with your entry, KinetiK...
: :confused: :cat: :drunk:

#19 KinetiK

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Posted 07 November 2002 - 21:38

Originally posted by Makarias
Oh geesh, this competition is tricky to manage! All these special cases and stuff... I'll have to think a while about what to do with your entry, KinetiK...
: :confused: :cat: :drunk:


I actually didn't even read the opening post in this thread, I merely followed the link from RC (the new drivers' one) and started my post. i'll alter it to suit the rules later today.

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Posted 08 November 2002 - 18:10

Originally posted by Makarias
Oh geesh, this competition is tricky to manage! All these special cases and stuff... I'll have to think a while about what to do with your entry, KinetiK...
: :confused: :cat: :drunk:


award 2/3 of a point for each he gets right :D

#21 Makarias

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Posted 13 November 2002 - 01:16

OK, I've decided to make it easy for myself and only allow two drivers in each team.

#22 KinetiK

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Posted 15 November 2002 - 15:52

Originally posted by Makarias
OK, I've decided to make it easy for myself and only allow two drivers in each team.


Even though Jordan and Minardi will be gone leaving the remaining teams to provide three drives each? ;)

#23 Makarias

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Posted 15 November 2002 - 18:30

OK then KinetiK, let's say that you get ten bonus points if there are three-car-teams (fewer than nine) in 2004! But I still just want two driver guesses/team. Unless you edit your entry I'll just pick the first two for each team.

MORE ENTRIES PLEASE!

#24 The Kanisteri

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Posted 15 November 2002 - 21:42

Ferrari:  M Schumacher Barrichello

Williams: Montoya	  Button

McLaren:  Coulthard	Räikkönen

Renault:  Trulli	   Kovalainen

Sauber:   De La Rosa   Massa

Jordan:   Fisichella   Junquira

BAR:	  Webber	   Justin Wilson

Jaguar:   Heidfeld	 R Schumacher

Minardi:  Yoong		Davidson

Toyota:   Da Matta	 Bernoldi


#25 garth_b

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Posted 19 November 2002 - 23:13

Ferrari M Schumacher Barrichello
Williams Montoya R Schumacher
Mclaren Raikkonen Heidfeld
Renault Villenueve Alonso
Sauber Pizzonia Nelson Piquet Jr
Jordan Fisichella Justin Wilson
BAR Button Sato
Jaguar Coulthard Webber
Toyota de Matta Massa
Minardi Bernoldi Davidson
Arrows Scott Dixon Nico Rosberg (had to get a kiwi in there somewhere :D )

#26 The Tiger

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Posted 19 November 2002 - 23:39

Originally posted by Flying Panda

Minardi - M. Dominguez

Guess subject to change.


:rotfl: :clap: :rotfl:

#27 KinetiK

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Posted 20 November 2002 - 01:31

ok ok, the pressure is unyielding so I'll make a new selection (but I'm keeping my nine team/three driver selection up there). I'll assume that none of the teams will fold with the exception of Arrows.

Ferrari: M Schumacher & F Massa
Williams: JP Montoya & B Junquiera
McLaren: K.Räikkönen & G Fisichella
Renault: J Trulli & F Alonso
Volkswagon Sauber: R Schumacher & A Pizzonia
BAR: J Button & A Davidson
Jaguar: D Coulthard & M. Webber
Toyota: R Barrichello & C. da Matta
Jordan: N Heidfeld & S Bourdais
Minardi: R Kerr & A Yoong (after winning the CART championship he only has to come up with 80% of the money he had to in 2002)

You'll note my exclusion of Jacques as he'll win Le Mans in 2005 becoming that only guy who... yadda yadda yadda.

#28 EvilPhil

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Posted 20 November 2002 - 02:44

Ferrari: MS and RB
Williams: JPM and RS
Mclaren: KR and DC

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and thats the whole grid :rotfl:

#29 Makarias

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Posted 26 November 2002 - 19:07

Come on folks! More entries! At the moment I can guarantee you a top 20 finish!

Sixteen months from now, you know you'll be cursing yourselves for missing out on this GREAT opportunity!!

#30 Makarias

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Posted 30 November 2002 - 23:28

Woohaaa! The competition is closed for further entries!

Merry Christmas, Bets&Games! It will be quiet in this forum for quite some time now I think.

#31 Moanaman

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Posted 04 December 2002 - 11:17

Originally posted by garth_b
Scott Dixon (had to get a kiwi in there somewhere :D )


Yeah baby Yeah!! Fabian Couthard?(for the non NZ's yes he is family)

#32 LB

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Posted 08 January 2003 - 02:21

Ok

Ferrari - M Schumacher / R Barrichello
Williams - JP Montoya/Button
McLaren - Coulthard/ Raikonnen
Renault - Alonso/Fisichella
Sauber - Heidfeld/ Massa
Jordan - Enge/Bordais
Jaguar - Webber/ R Schumacher
BAR - Davidson/Villenueve
Toyota - Da Matta/ Trulli
Minardi - Wilson/ Pizzonia

#33 mimin

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Posted 08 January 2003 - 09:46

Here is my guess: :drunk:


Ferrari - M Schumacher / R Barrichello
Williams - JP Montoya/R Shumacher
McLaren - Coulthard/ Raikonnen
Renault - Alonso/Villenueve
Sauber - Heidfeld/ Massa
Jordan - Truli/Wilson
Jaguar - Webber/ Pizzonia
BAR - J Button/T Sato
Toyota - Da Matta/ Fisichella
Minardi - J Verstappen/Pizzonia
Arrows - O. Panis/Bernoldi

#34 Makarias

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Posted 09 January 2003 - 00:21

Heh, dudes...
You're over one month too late! :p

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Posted 09 January 2003 - 01:49

You guys are very late!! Talk about blatant disrespect for the rules!!!!!!!

So here are mine - :p ;)

Ferrari - M Schumacher / Barrichello
Williams - Montoya/Pizzonia
McLaren - Raikonnen/Heidfeld
Renault - Alonso/Villenueve
Sauber - Trulli/Davidson
Jordan - Fisichella/Button
Jaguar - Webber/R Schumacher
BAR - Coulthard/Sato
Toyota - Da Matta/Panis
Minardi - Wilson/HHF



most likely the top teams wont change - but thats no fun!!!

#36 LB

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Posted 18 January 2003 - 01:04

Originally posted by gerry nassar
You guys are very late!! Talk about blatant disrespect for the rules!!!!!!!

So here are mine - :p ;)


Rules ! what rules !;)

#37 Makarias

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Posted 18 January 2003 - 01:22

Mak rules! Yes indeed!

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Posted 27 January 2003 - 06:23

AFAIK, this contest is still on ( tell me if not, Makarias ;) ), so here goes:

Ferrari - M Schumacher / Barrichello
Williams - Montoya/R Schumacher
McLaren - Coulthard/ Raikonnen
Renault - Trulli/Alonso
Sauber - Heidfeld/ Frentzen
Jordan - Fisichella/ Massa
Jaguar - Webber/ Pizzonia
BAR - Villeneuve/ Button
Minardi - Wilson/ Verstappen
Toyota - Panis/ Da Matta

#39 Makarias

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Posted 28 January 2003 - 01:29

Heh, GreenLantern! You're not even two months too late! :p

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Posted 31 January 2003 - 07:47

Originally posted by mimin
Here is my guess: :drunk:


Ferrari - M Schumacher / R Barrichello
Williams - JP Montoya/R Shumacher
McLaren - Coulthard/ Raikonnen
Renault - Alonso/Villenueve
Sauber - Heidfeld/ Massa
Jordan - Truli/Wilson
Jaguar - Webber/ Pizzonia
BAR - J Button/T Sato
Toyota - Da Matta/ Fisichella
Minardi - J Verstappen/Pizzonia
Arrows - O. Panis/Bernoldi

I made mistake, so I have to edit my entry.

Ferrari - M Schumacher / R Barrichello
Williams - JP Montoya/R Shumacher
McLaren - Coulthard/ Raikonnen
Renault - Alonso/Villenueve
Sauber - Heidfeld/ Massa
Jordan - Truli/Wilson
Jaguar - Webber/ Pizzonia
BAR - J Button/T Sato
Toyota - Da Matta/ Fisichella
Minardi - J Verstappen/Bernoldi
:stoned:

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Posted 26 May 2003 - 11:02

I think next season will either be about major shifts :clap: or hardly any shifts at all... :| Here's my guess in the first case, which is, of course, the most spectacular :cool: :

Ferrari : Michael Schumacher + Rubens Barrichello
McLaren : Kimi Räikkönen + Nick Heidfeld (or maybe they'll keep DC)
Williams : Juan Pablo Montoya + Giancarlo Fisichella (or maybe they'll keep RS)
Renault : Jarno Trulli + Fernando Alonso
B·A·R : Jenson Button + Takuma Sato (or maybe they'll keep JVi)
Jordan : David Coulthard + Ralph Firman (or maybe they'll keep GF)
Jaguar : Mark Webber + Ralf Schumacher
Sauber : Neel Jani + Felipe Massa
Toyota : Olivier Panis + Cristiano da Matta
Minardi : Jos Verstappen + Christijan Albers *

(* = with money from Trust and engines from Mercedes :eek: )

#42 skylark68

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Posted 27 May 2003 - 18:52

Fascinating.

I'll post soon.

Great game.

#43 TT6

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Posted 30 October 2003 - 09:58

Alwrite. Seems like I'm going to have quite a poor result in this game too, unless some very exceptional happens. Whatever, November 2003 starts day after tomorrow.

Makarias, are we going to have
The 2005 Silly Season Trophy
anytime soon?