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#251 elansprint72

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 22:40

I have just read the artcle linked by BRG and am lost for words.

 

Suggest others read.

Very interesting read. Also, just below that piece, a link to the obit column:

http://www.telegraph...r-obituary.html



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#252 Paul Parker

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 11:59

Apparently, once a F1 car designer, always a F1 car designer!  Peter Connew in the news today.

 

In my experience unless you are signed up to the DT website you cannot open any articles online, the text is removed altogether leaving just the opening image on a darkened background plus the blah at the bottom of the page about other bits of the paper.



#253 Vitesse2

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 12:21

In my experience unless you are signed up to the DT website you cannot open any articles online, the text is removed altogether leaving just the opening image on a darkened background plus the blah at the bottom of the page about other bits of the paper.

Sounds like you've hit their monthly download limit. Clear any Telegraph cookies in your browser and then set it to clear Telegraph cookies on exit. This will enable you to bypass their paywall - unless you look at more than twenty pages in any one session.  ;)



#254 john winfield

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 12:27

Sounds like you've hit their monthly download limit. Clear any Telegraph cookies in your browser and then set it to clear Telegraph cookies on exit. This will enable you to bypass their paywall - unless you look at more than twenty pages in any one session.  ;)

Agreed Richard.  I try not to look at the Telegraph website too often, for health reasons, and have no problem when occasionally I do.  :)


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#255 MCS

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 14:51

In my experience unless you are signed up to the DT website you cannot open any articles online, the text is removed altogether leaving just the opening image on a darkened background plus the blah at the bottom of the page about other bits of the paper.

Would this be because you are based abroad, Paul?

 

I don't know - I am just guessing.  I sometimes struggle to connect to some "UK-based" sites when I am in continental Europe.



#256 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 20:55

In my experience unless you are signed up to the DT website you cannot open any articles online, the text is removed altogether leaving just the opening image on a darkened background plus the blah at the bottom of the page about other bits of the paper.

I read here in Oz. Though that was when it was current a couple of days ago. The problem with many of these links they are only current for a day or two

#257 962C

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 10:10

I just found these pictures posted by "Jno10" on the Autodiva forum. I don't remember seeing them before. Even if they're not new, they're worth reposting anyway.

 

7ntt.jpg

 

3vv7.jpg

 

8mvh.jpg

 

No mention of a copyright.



#258 Barry Boor

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 12:56

The middle one of the three pictures is unknown to both Peter and myself.



#259 bradbury west

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 13:01

The top one,( I cannot see the first one so it is the middle one for some of you) is probably the finest shot of the workings of the car I have seen. To say credit where credit is due to the designer and builders seems grossly unworthy of what they achieved with so little in the  way of key resources - space, time, manpower and money. Truly one of the most  significant design and build achievements in F1. Usual disclaimers

Roger Lund



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#260 Bloggsworth

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 15:05

I'm not signed up to the Daily Telegraph but I read it every day - Perhaps it's an out-of-the-UK thing.



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Posted 22 January 2014 - 15:39

Hot news! Capricorn to buy the Nurburgring. Will their return to the F1 world mean Connew is reborn?

 

Perhaps not as it is an unconnected engineering group not the seafood firm. But still Capricorn.



#262 funformula

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 18:28

The middle one of the three pictures is unknown to both Peter and myself.

 

The person working at the rear end of the car...is it you?

Was this picture taken in France? The first picture is obviouslytaken at the Nuerburgring. The last one might be taken in Austria? Francois Migault is sitting in a proper seat here while the second picture are showing foam sheets instead.



#263 Barry Boor

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 20:17

The person visible at the back of the car is our Chief Mechanic Roger Doran.

 

The person on the right is something of a mystery but we think it is probably Francois Migault's friend Roger Schweitzer, the former race driver who drove our truck out to Austria.



#264 Repco22

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 03:41

The top one,( I cannot see the first one so it is the middle one for some of you) is probably the finest shot of the workings of the car I have seen. To say credit where credit is due to the designer and builders seems grossly unworthy of what they achieved with so little in the  way of key resources - space, time, manpower and money. Truly one of the most  significant design and build achievements in F1. Usual disclaimers

Roger Lund

Seconded!



#265 Otto Grabe

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 10:41

IMHO all pics are taken in the old paddock of the ring (the first two at least) at different times at the very same spot. In the chronologigal order 2, 1 and 3. See the blocks and the white line to the right.



#266 Cargo

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 12:13

The top one,( I cannot see the first one so it is the middle one for some of you) is probably the finest shot of the workings of the car I have seen. To say credit where credit is due to the designer and builders seems grossly unworthy of what they achieved with so little in the  way of key resources - space, time, manpower and money. Truly one of the most  significant design and build achievements in F1. Usual disclaimers

Roger Lund

 

Seconded!

 

Thirded!  :up:  Well done PC and BB... a very neat piece of engineering. Good...



#267 funformula

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Posted 22 August 2014 - 16:52

@ Barry Boor

I don´t know about the current state of the Connew project, but this might be of interest:

http://racecarsdirec...dfv_engine.html



#268 Mistron

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Posted 22 August 2014 - 17:27

also on Ebay. £3500

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item2ed5ac3c2e


Edited by Mistron, 22 August 2014 - 18:57.


#269 Barry Boor

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 19:56

Recently I visited our chief mechanic, Roger Doran.  He showed me his scrapbook from the racing days and there were several pictures that I hadn't seen before.

 

I thought that this one is a brilliant photo.  It was taken soon after we arrived at Le Mans after our truck had broken down on the way to Clermont Ferrand.  I know it was soon after we arrived because as you can see, the bodywork had not been taken away to have the Shell yellow added/

 

fourmen.jpg

 

What a rum crew we were!



#270 Tuboscocca

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 20:01

Recently I visited our chief mechanic, Roger Doran.  He showed me his scrapbook from the racing days and there were several pictures that I hadn't seen before.

 

I thought that this one is a brilliant photo.  It was taken soon after we arrived at Le Mans after our truck had broken down on the way to Clermont Ferrand.  I know it was soon after we arrived because as you can see, the bodywork had not been taken away to have the Shell yellow added/

 

fourmen.jpg

 

What a rum crew we were!

Thanks Barry--but who is who,please..??

 

Michael



#271 Barry Boor

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 20:03

If you were ever in any doubt about the size of the place in which the car was built, doubt no more!

 

workshop2.jpg



#272 Barry Boor

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 20:04

Michael, as you look, left to right, Roger Doran, me, Peter Connew, Francois Migault.



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Posted 16 March 2015 - 20:43

Recently I visited our chief mechanic, Roger Doran.  He showed me his scrapbook from the racing days and there were several pictures that I hadn't seen before.

 

I thought that this one is a brilliant photo.  It was taken soon after we arrived at Le Mans after our truck had broken down on the way to Clermont Ferrand.  I know it was soon after we arrived because as you can see, the bodywork had not been taken away to have the Shell yellow added/

 

fourmen.jpg

 

What a rum crew we were!

Wonderful. Five handsome beasts.   ;)



#274 Barry Boor

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 20:45

Should've gone to Specsavers, David.

 

(Other opticians are available!)



#275 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 21:36

If you were ever in any doubt about the size of the place in which the car was built, doubt no more!

 

workshop2.jpg

 What is that? About 18x11 foot. I know of bigger garden sheds!



#276 Tuboscocca

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 22:05

Michael, as you look, left to right, Roger Doran, me, Peter Connew, Francois Migault.

Thank you Barry, I not even recognised Migault...

 

Michael



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Posted 16 March 2015 - 22:32

Have you seen that Spark have announced a 1:43 model of the  1972 Austrian Grand Prix Connew?   But they haven't said when it will come out.



#278 Barry Boor

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 22:37

Can't find it on their website, Duncan.

#279 D-Type

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 22:53

Racing Models, Diecast Legends, Trax, Grand Prix models, etc have listed it  with release date unknown.  Model number S4255



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#280 Barry Boor

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Posted 19 March 2015 - 16:09

Another 'new' picture has recently surfaced.

 

The making of the jelutong pattern for the nose.  I wouldn't like to guess how many hours I spent on this lump but it would certainly be in three figures and I seriously doubt that the first figure would be a 1.

 

nosepattern.jpg



#281 Barry Boor

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Posted 19 March 2015 - 16:16

....and another.

 

This was taken in the petrol station a few yards along from the yard on the very first night that the car ever moved on its own wheels.

 

Everything was dummy or temporary - engine, gearbox, no springs, no exhausts, no dampers and the wheels were borrowed too!  But it rolled so although it was late at night, we had to get it to somewhere where there was enough light to take pictures.  Hence the local filling station.

 

petrol1.jpg



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Posted 19 March 2015 - 16:19

....and another.

 

This was taken in the petrol station a few yards along from the yard on the very first night that the car ever moved on its own wheels.

 

Everything was dummy or temporary - engine, gearbox, no springs, no exhausts, no dampers and the wheels were borrowed too!  But it rolled so although it was late at night, we had to get it to somewhere where there was enough light to take pictures.  Hence the local filling station.

 

petrol1.jpg

Wonderful! And a carwash for 20p!!!!

 

Michael



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Posted 19 March 2015 - 18:21

"Ein geheimnisvoller Formel-1-Rennwagen ist derzeit in England im Entstehen. Peter Connew, der mit John Surtees am TS5 und am TS/ gearbeitet hat, zeichnet als Designer verantwortlich. Von den wenigen Details, die man bislang in Erfahrung bringen konnte, ist bekannt, dass es sich um ein Voll-Monocoque handelt, das den Ford-Cosworth-Motor als tragendes Element verwendet. Das Fahrzeug hätte ursprünglich bereits am GP England eingesetzt werden sollen, doch war die Fertigstellung bis zu diesem Datum aus finanziellen Gründen nicht möglich. Im Moment hat es den Anschein, als würde dieser Wagen, der noch keinen Namen besitzt, erst in der kommenden Saison auf den Rennpisten auftauchen - über den Fahrer ist allerdings noch nichts bekannt geworden."

 

This is from Powerslide magazine, September 1971 - a great Swiss mag that turned into the equally respectable Motorsport Aktuell, run by the late Dieter Stappert.

 

Barry, if you want a scan of this, let me know. Stumbled upon it a couple of days ago. :wave:



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Posted 19 March 2015 - 18:22

Translation included, I should say ;-)



#285 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 19 March 2015 - 21:10

Just reading the new thread about will modern F1s become iconic. All the main parts of this car are still around and [moderate in the scheme of things] money permitting it could be  raced again. After not being for 30 years. A Cosworth or a 5000 Chev and the correct transaxle being the main expensive ingredients being required. And the knowledge of Peter Connew and Barry Boor to put it back together, though even they are replaceable!

These days you need at least one technichan, a mechanic, and a truck load of electronics for the car and the pit bay. And that is just to start the engine. And in 30 years time most of the knowledge and equipment will be lost. Even the c/f airboxes by then will be suspect and I feel ingesting carbon fibre shards will not do the engine any good then. If you can start it!



#286 eldougo

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Posted 20 March 2015 - 03:23

Great photo Barry,your a look a like Peter Sellers . :up:



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Posted 20 March 2015 - 04:29

Another 'new' picture has recently surfaced.

 

The making of the jelutong pattern for the nose.  I wouldn't like to guess how many hours I spent on this lump but it would certainly be in three figures and I seriously doubt that the first figure would be a 1.

 

nosepattern.jpg

 

A damned attractive man in the right light, BB.  :wave:



#288 Barry Boor

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Posted 20 March 2015 - 06:41

Yes, the right light being a 5 watt bulb, no doubt.

#289 Lutz G

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Posted 23 March 2015 - 20:50

Recently I visited our chief mechanic, Roger Doran.  He showed me his scrapbook from the racing days and there were several pictures that I hadn't seen before.
 
I thought that this one is a brilliant photo.  It was taken soon after we arrived at Le Mans after our truck had broken down on the way to Clermont Ferrand.  I know it was soon after we arrived because as you can see, the bodywork had not been taken away to have the Shell yellow added/
 
fourmen.jpg
 
What a rum crew we were!


Thanks for sharing! :clap: BTW: Still waiting for a Connew movie/docu ;)

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Posted 24 March 2015 - 17:53

Stay tuned we might be able to do better than that !



#291 Charlieman

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Posted 24 March 2015 - 18:35

This is great British drama -- stuff that English speakers in Denmark waited to see on the BBC in fuzzyism when TV was analogue. It is still a great story.

 

You have a bunch of lads who presume to build an F1 car in a lock up garage. Having built the chassis and plastic bits, they scrounged a gearbox. Then they scrounged an engine from McLaren. Allegedly, everything mated up.

 

What else do you want to know? Connew had a go at GP racing and weren't bad. Connew ran at a GP.



#292 Barry Boor

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Posted 24 March 2015 - 22:54

Not too sure about the word 'scrounged'.

The engine was hired and IIRC the gearbox was bought, brand new with money.

In fact, I cannot recall that we actually scrounged anything - but I understand what you mean.

#293 Charlieman

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 01:30

The engine was hired and IIRC the gearbox was bought, brand new with money.

'Ouch' says the wallet. I certainly did not intend to disparage your efforts, Barry.



#294 Barry Boor

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 06:19

It's okay, Charlie, it wasn't our money!

#295 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 10:28

It's okay, Charlie, it wasn't our money!

Barry, I just went to re read your original narrative about the build. It has disapeared :evil: .

Is there anyway it can be put up again? 



#296 Tim Murray

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 10:38

Yer tiz:

http://188.65.115.17...-bin/story1.htm

#297 bradbury west

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 11:53

As ever, thanks Tim.
RL

#298 wolf sun

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 13:19

Re-reading the story, and realising how relatively early the continental press had got wind of the whole venture (see my post above) I'm wondering who'd informed the journos and at which point in time?



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Posted 25 March 2015 - 13:36

If you were ever in any doubt about the size of the place in which the car was built, doubt no more!

 

workshop2.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

Why did you choose the red color, Barry?


Edited by Nanni Dietrich, 25 March 2015 - 13:37.


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#300 Barry Boor

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 15:43

Peter just thought that red was the right colour for a racing car.

As it happened, once we tied up with Shell France through François Migault, it would have been red and yellow anyway. However, we didn't know that at the time it was first painted.