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#751 D-Type

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 21:18

The administrative area that a place is in is not necessarily the same as the postal area. For example I used to live in a house that was between Bexley and Dartford. Administratively we were in Dartford and paid our rates (local taxes) to them, but our postal address was 'Bexley'. I would expect that Alan and V2 have kept the same postal address through all the changes.
Richard, I think you'll have to decide which you are going to use.


Edited by D-Type, 07 January 2014 - 15:08.


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#752 Barry Boor

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 21:46

I can identify with all this confusion. I live in Qawra but most people call it Bugibba when in fact, the whole area is St. Pauls Bay, as is the post code.

#753 Giraffe

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 07:33

I can identify with all this confusion.


Me too Barry, as at one time I lived in Batley, my postal address was Dewsbury and my postcode was Wakefield! :drunk:

#754 Richard Jenkins

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 21:38

Blundell was born in Barnet in 1966, but Barnet was already in Greater London from 1965, so, Hertfordshire should be wrong - etc. etc

With the counties in Great Britain, this discussion, whilst valid, crops up every so often and as the subsequent posts have alluded, it's a minefield and there are also inconsistences. The thing is, not one British person can say that the above is wrong per se, or Harrow, or Darlington etc, so I will leave the Counties as they are, because someone else will come along in 3 months and make equally valid responses back.

The place of death of Kay should be Marlborough, Connecticut, not Marlboro Indeed so, will be changed as will Bourdais, Schlessler

Lippi - the real complete name of the deathplace of Lippi is Lavinio - Lido di Enea (usually abbreviated only with Lavinio)
http://rete.comuni-i..._-_Lido_di_Enea

Fine, that's no problem, that will be changed as will Adolff, Migault, Simon

Gethin - the correct name of deathplace is Old Henley, Haslemere, not Haselmere

Fat fingers, nothing more, spelling error, sorry

There is an inversion in the nationality of Maldonado, YV not VY Whoops

You have changed the abbreviation of uruguay drivers from U to ROU (like the new international abbreviations) and now you should change also the abbreviation of the finnish drivers - from SF to FIN (Häkkinen, Järvilehto, Kinnunen, Kovalainen, Kozarowitzky, Räikkönen, Rosberg Keijo e Salo) because the new abbreviation is in use from 1993.

I will need Allen's help here as the database only picks up certain charachers with the nations. This is why the old U was changed to ROU as it didn't pick up as a nation. SF for now comes up as Finland on the database. If I change it to FIN, it'll come up as FranceIndonesia (or something similiar), so we'll need to rewrite the script, but I agree with the sentiment

About Naylor I have read that his death was caused by an accident, road or aircraft or other?
Yes, it was a boat accident,that likely contributed to his early passing, but not actually caused it

and about Rounds I have found an information about his death but also him only "accident", road or aircraft?
Definitely not. Died of cancer. The "aircraft" accident was alleged to have killed him in 1962, long before he actually died, so forget that particular line of information, it diverted me for a long time from the real information


Sorry for the late reply in all this, but as those of you who are my friends on Facebook may be aware, there are more important things going on in my life this week. But tonight I'm home and I'll respond in kind.

But thank you very much because I am nitpicky, albiet nitpicky in my favour :lol: and I appreciate the little pointers and advice like this. Once life settles down again, I'll update the website.

#755 Graham Gauld

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 15:46

Good morning, after years finally I came back to this website, to update the informations of my documents about Formula 1 drivers... :)

I have read every posts of this years and checked every biography in the website, I was only in 2008!!!

In the meanwhile I have found some little mistakes or little corrections to suggest. I'm sorry if my words seem too much raw... it's because I don't speak english very well but I'm slowly improving :p

Blundell was born in Barnet in 1966, but Barnet was already in Greater London from 1965, so, Hertfordshire should be wrong

The place of death of Kay should be Marlborough, Connecticut, not Marlboro
http://www.marlboroughct.net/

Bourdais - in the biography the correct info should be "winning the title four years in a row between 2004 and 2007"

Schlesser Jo - there is a little mistake in the biography (Madagascar)

Pease - I have no evidence of Darlington from Yorkshire to Durham, but only Darlington in Durham. If I'm wrong there is also the birthplace of Robinson Tony (in team bosses section) to change, infact he was born in 1929 in Darlington, Durham.

Lippi - the real complete name of the deathplace of Lippi is Lavinio - Lido di Enea (usually abbreviated only with Lavinio)
http://rete.comuni-i..._-_Lido_di_Enea

Adolff - the deathplace is only Kreuth (without am-Tegernsee, the lake Tegernsee is close to the town and in the logo of the town there is Kreuth am Tegernsee but the name is only Kreuth. There is also a town named "Tegernsee")
http://www.postleitz...miesbach/kreuth
http://www.kreuth.de...akt-kreuth.html

Migault - the correct name of deathplace is Parigne-l'Eveque with "-" as usually for the french names of the cities.

Burgess - the deathplace of Harrow is in Greater London, not Middlesex, from 1965

Simon - the complete name of the deathplace is Evian-les-Bains (as confirmed by the road signs, you can see them in Google Street View :) )

Gethin - the correct name of deathplace is Old Henley, Haslemere, not Haselmere
http://www.haslemere.com/

There is an inversion in the nationality of Maldonado, YV not VY

There is a little mistake in the deathplace of Nuckey - Philippines with only one "L"

You have changed the abbreviation of uruguay drivers from U to ROU (like the new international abbreviations) and now you should change also the abbreviation of the finnish drivers - from SF to FIN (Häkkinen, Järvilehto, Kinnunen, Kovalainen, Kozarowitzky, Räikkönen, Rosberg Keijo e Salo) because the new abbreviation is in use from 1993.

I have found a different information for the death of Flaherty, emphysema but maybe he had also a cancer... I can't verify this news at all.

About Naylor I have read that his death was caused by an accident, road or aircraft or other?

and about Rounds I have found an information about his death but also him only "accident", road or aircraft?

and that's all!!!
as usually my congratulations for this big job :clap:

now is time to enjoy a new F1 championship... finally!!! :D




The accident to Brian Naylor happened when he was working on a yacht and seemingly some bottled gas had leaked and in the explosion Brian was killed.

#756 Barry Boor

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 15:50

Completely O.T. but since Brian Naylor has been mentioned, I've had a request from his grandson for a model of the J.B.W Maserati. He saw my slot race version and asked if he could have one.

I must get around to making it soon.

Sorry - back to W.A.T.N.

#757 Richard Jenkins

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 23:00

Latest update;

2013 Updates
Allmendinger, Battistini, Beatriz, Bjork, Briscoe, Caroll, Camathias, Campos, D Clarke, de Oliviera, N Fry, Gabbiani, Gosselin, Gounon, Goudy, Gommendy, M Halliday, Hoshino, Krumm, Karthekiyan, Lowe, Lancieri, Leinders, Morbidelli, Menu, Nakano, O'Connell, Nurminen, Perera, Pastorelli, Piccini, Plankenhorn, Salles, Sutil, Tuero, Tung, van Hooydonk, Van der Poele, Van Hool, Wirdehim, A Wirth, R Wilson, A Wallace

WATN updates
Aloi, Enge, Gache, Lloyd, Scassellati, Verstappen, Tielemans (a world away from motor racing!), van Rooyen

Deaths
A Branca, G Martini

New
J Bianchi, Goss


Changed Information
Almondo, Briatore, Lardi-Ferrari, Steiner, Valentini - birthplace
Ascanelli, Caliri, De Riu, Langes, Liuzzi, Lancia, Willman - birthdate
Andrew Green - birthdate, but finally found birthplace

Other
Spellings/counties - etc. as per Bob Simbel's post above
Grand Prix's updated to current total

Thanks
David McKinney, Michael Ferner, Roberto (Bob Simbel), Adriano Barnelli


#758 Richard Jenkins

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 21:26

Latest updates;

2013 Updates
Jo Andretti, J Allison, Bernoldi, Bartels, Belloc, Chiesa, Conway, Caffi, Dracone, Dominguez, Hancock, Heger, Ide, M Jourdain Jr, Legge, Buddy Lazier, Mann, Meira, Merzario, Melo, A Muller, Pantano, Pizzonia, Rangoni, Rosset, Sourd, Wiggins

Other WATN
Antinucci, Apicella, Albers, Baumgartner, Boldrini, Furlan, J Howard, Hug, Bob Lazier, Mikola, Reese, Simmons, Tichy, Tinseau, Witmeur

Died
Malone

New
Chester and C Daly

New Information
Arpainen, J Baldwin, Habegger, Minder, Serpaggi, Veitch - full birthplace
Abney, G Clark, S Hoffman, Kreiger, B Miller - FULL details (at last for some of these)
C Berton, Hug - full birthdates
F Niccolini - birthyear

Changed Information
McCarver - birth details and a bit more information about his name
Newman - dates deleted, but still born c. 1922

Other
Chase Austin never made it to Indy, so he's out
Indy 500 totals updated and of course, GP totals updated

Thanks

Rewind, Richard Salomon, Michael Ferner

Edited by Richard Jenkins, 26 May 2013 - 21:27.


#759 Richard Jenkins

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 22:05

Latest updates;

2013/14 Updates:
Buemi, Cunningham, Coughlan, J Gene, Hildebrand, M Lauda, K Nakajima, Servia, Schiattarella, Symonds, Sarrazin, Wurz, Webber

Other WATN Updates:,
Arundell, Alliot, Cabral, de Ferran, Goth, Insinger, A Ribeiro

Died:
JF Gonzalez, Gaze, Julien, J Leffler, Reese

New:
J Davison, Filippi, S Wilson

New Information;
Full birthdate - Chester, Cullen, Karnatz, Pavesi, Serblin
Place of death - A Duray


Changed Information;
A Miller (Krulac) - birthplace change,
Shepherd (birth and death places),
Manfred Winklehock - birth year

Other;
GP Totals updated

Thanks
Jerry Moses, Bob Jamaica, Alan Drysdale, Allen Brown, Peter Wells, Richard Reese, Kristin Hunt, Chuck Harris, Gergely Gabris and Peter Higham (and his excellent new tome World Encloypaedia of Racing Drivers)



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#760 ReWind

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 17:45

Full birthdate - Chester

Are you sure about 1969?
EngineeringF1 says Nick Chester was born in 1968.

#761 Richard Jenkins

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 19:09

Are you sure about 1969?
EngineeringF1 says Nick Chester was born in 1968.

They're wrong. I've got a copy of the birth certificate, deffo 1969.

#762 ReWind

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 19:47

Okay. Thanks.

#763 ReWind

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 18:42

@Richard: Sometime Autodelta boss Giovanni „Gianni“ Tonti was born on 01 July 1942 in Cesara, Novara.

 

(Source) With thanks to Tuboscocca.



#764 Richard Jenkins

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 23:04

Reinhard - thanks for that.

Now what I don't understand is that your post - or this thread - didn't even appear in the updated posts. I'm not going to go into a new software rant, but I do find it strange I only noticed it today when going into the thread to update the information.

 

The latest update round-up is as so;

 

2013/14 Updates:

J Bianchi,Brawn, Dalziel, Hinchcliffe, Lowndes, Montoya, Pagenaud, Pilbeam, Preston, Ricciardo, A Suzuki, T Scheckter

 

WATN Updates:

Jeff Andretti, Alcorn, Bonner, Bertaggia, Chassange, L Chevrolet, Caistang, Clerico, Dingley, Da Matta, De Villota and Edwards (sadly), Flaherty, R Ford, Fry N, Feast, Galica, Gelnaw, L Gerard, Glockler, Gidley, R Hubbard, Hytten, Hirt, Hartz, Hearne, Meek, Perkins L, B Roe, Stroud, Van Rossem, J Ward, J Wood

 

Died:

Gerini,  H Taylor

 

New:

Luhr

 

 

New Information:

Cucinotta, Webb - FULL details and WATN

WH Frey - deathyear

Monahan (note spelling) - full death details

Nakamura and Orsi - full birth details

L Niccolini - birth year

 

Changed Information:

Apicella, Forti, Gimax, Pesenti-Rossi, Zanardi - birthplace

Hytten - birthyear

Sospiri - birthdate

Slater - birth details (totally changed)

 

Other:

Made a note that De Riu is actually Deriu, but name remains same for now.

 

Thanks:

Peter Higham, Tuboscocca, Rewind, Richard Hubbard, Mario Hytten, Alessandro Silva, Adriano Brunelli



#765 alnica

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Posted 08 December 2013 - 18:57

Tiago Monteiro born in Massarelos, not Musserelas.

 

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Massarelos



#766 Richard Jenkins

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Posted 08 December 2013 - 21:45

Thanks Alnica



#767 Richard Jenkins

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 20:57

Latest updates, summarised for a New Year;

 

2014 WATN

Allmendinger, Angelelli, Beatriz, T Bell, Briscoe, Bourdais, Bruni, Beretta, Collard, Davison, De Villota, Diaz, Derichebourg, Euser, C Fittipaldi, Garcia, Gidley, Ganassi, Grosjean, Glock, Goosens, Giroix, Gutierrez, Henzler, Hulkenburg, Hynes, Junqueira, J Kane, Jonsson, Johansson, PJ Jones, Kubica, Kinser, Lazzaro, Legge, M Lauda, JM Lopez, Lotterer, Lamy, Legge, Luhr, McDowell, Munoz, J Magnussen, Massa, Matos, Patrick, Pastorelli, Perez, Pruett, J Robinson, RInland, Shank, S Sharp, Sutil, Sato, Salo, S Schmidt, W Taylor, Valiante, Villeneuve Sr, Wilds, Yeley

 

General WATN

Franchitti, Krakau, Davy Jones, Maslov, Matsushita, McNish, Marchese, C Miller, Mieres, Nellemann, Poore, B Rose, Rickenbacher, M Rose, B Robisnon, Ruttmann, Rol, M Schumacher, Serblin, H Sharp, Shawe-Taylor

 

New

Aleshin, Kvyat, K Magnussen

 

Died

P Favre, Grief (with full dates now), Gregory, Granatelli, Hart

 

New Information

M Costa, Gillis, Spreafico - birthplace

Graemiger, H Werner - FULL birthdate

Peltier - FULL deathdate

Rocchi - FULL deathdate

Silva - changed from da Silva - added birthplace & WATN

 

Changed Information

Monteiro - corrected birthplace spelling

Maldonado - birthdate

Rol - deathplace

 

 

Thanks

Mike Wilds, Jac Nellemann, Franco Spreafico,

Nexfast (Jose) - for Mario Silva,

Csaba Varga - Maldonado

Alnica - Monteiro

William Eisele and Janice Plazola - B Rose

Peter Higham - World Encyclopedia of Racing Drivers - Krakau, Marchese, C Miller, Mieres, Poore, Prinoth, Rickenbacker, Rol, B Robinson, M Rose, Ruttmann



#768 ReWind

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 19:26

Did Phil Caliva change his name into Wolf?

Website radaris.com

http://radaris.com/~...-Wolf/174463344

has him as Philip Wolf! (At least I think it is the same person.)



#769 Richard Jenkins

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 20:56

Did Phil Caliva change his name into Wolf?

Website radaris.com

http://radaris.com/~...-Wolf/174463344

has him as Philip Wolf! (At least I think it is the same person.)

 

I think it's Radaris putting two and two together and making five. I do know that Caliva is brother-in-law to former F1 team boss Walter Wolf (mentioned in that Radaris) article, but I'd be suprised if Phil would then change HIS name to his brother-in-law's. 


Edited by Richard Jenkins, 14 February 2014 - 20:56.


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Posted 11 March 2014 - 22:44

2014 WATN

Andre, Aguas, Annala, Albers, Ayari, Bremer, Brawn, Bouchut, Berton G, Baguette and Boullier, Caffi, Coughlan, Dennis, di Resta, di Grassi, de Silvestro, de Oliviera, Dominguez, Earle, Enge, Figge, Formato, Furlan, Fontana, Gidley, Giammmaria, Giovanardi, Gommendy, Davey Hamilton, M Halliday, D Halliday, Helary, Hornish, Iida, Janis, Krumm, Klien, Kobayashi, Kox, Kolles, Kasemets, Karthekiyan, Lammers, Lohr, Lotterer, Leinders, Luyendyk jr, Liuzzi, Mollekens, Morand, S Mayer, Montagny, Menu, Morbidelli, J Muller, Minassian, Mazzacane, Matsuura, S Nakajima, Nakano, Papis, Penske, Plowman, Perera, Petrov, Pastorelli, Piquet Jr, Ranger, G Smith, Schrader, Servia, Tagliani, van der Garde, Villeneuve, Wirdheim, Zonta, Zanardi

 

General WATN

Belmondo, Comas, Divila, Fernandez, Gaillard, Haas, La Caze, Lemarie, Lisles, Laffite, Lagorce, Menninga, Robarts, Stapp, Siegrist, Toccacelo, Turizio, , M Williams, J Winkelhock

 

New

Ericsson, Gerstenberg, Gandelin, Lopez

 

Removed

Renzetti - not a car designer in any sense, he was an engine specialist.

 

Died

Beale, Crook, Mingotti, (d. 1991, however), Weiss

 

New Information

Jack Buxton - full birth details, WATN and tidied up deathplace.

Harold Bailey - FULL birth and death details

Biechteler - full name and birthplace

Farnetti, H Meier, F Niccolini, Picchi - full birth details

Kiser - deathplace

J Rossi - birthyear

Studer - birthyear and birthplace

Walz - birthplace

 

Changed Information

Cox - exact birthplace

N Houser - birthplace

 

Thanks

Peter Higham - World Encyclopedia of Racing Drivers - Stapp, Turizio, J Winkelhock

Motorsport Memorial - Mingotti

JIm Thurman - Buxton

Mark Williams - himself

Donald Davidson - Harold Bailey

John Siscoe - Norm Houser

Michael Ferner - Siegrist & Studer

Rewind - Rossi

Chris Townsend - Biechteler and Walz.

Roger Clark and Dizionario del Piloti - Picchi

 

 

 

The last mention also, combined with Roger, goes to the late David McKinney - one of WATN's biggest helpers and encouragers over the years. His support and useful nuggets of information will be sorely missed.
 



#771 Richard Jenkins

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 21:45

A round of up of the most recent updates:

 

2014 Updates

 

Alguersuari, B Bell, Bernoldi, Biagi, Belli, Bjork, Bleekemolen, Bachelart, Carpentier, Carroll, Couto, Cochet, D'Ambrosio, Daly, De Castro, Del Monte, Domenciali, Deletraz, Eeckelaert, Ekblom, Filippi, Gihinzani, Goudy, Gounon, Hildebrand, Ide, Jourdain Jr, Lavaggi, B Lazier, Matsuda, Marshall, Mann, Melo, Melgrati, Martinez, Monti, Necchi, Nissany, Nardozi, Noda, Nurminen, Oestreich, Pantano,Piccini, Quester, Rangoni, Schiattarella, Sourd, Speed, Servia, Steiner, M Smith, Troberg, Tung, Tyler, van der Poele, van Hool, T Wright, Wyss, Yoong

 

WATN updates

 

Alesi, Blundell, Ballisat, Bonnano, de Andrade, Dudot, Eichmann, Gentry, Heard, Hancock, Herbert, A May, Meneghello, C Montanari, Pirro, Puzey, Pescarolo, Pratt, Regester, Rocca, C Robinson, Rostan, A Russell, Rydell, Salles, Salazar, Scapini, T Scheckter, I Stewart, Stadler, Threshie, Trice, Tamburini, Tedeschi, Trombetti, Tassin, Tracy, Warren, Wallace, R Wilson, Zampedri, Zwolsman

 

New:

K Busch, Hawksworth, Huertas, Karam, Mattiacci

 

Died:

Anspann, G Bettenhausen, J Brabham, Merello (with birth year details), Pease, Settember.

 

New Information:

Full Birthdate: Bakst, C Green (plus WATN), B Hunt (and deathplace), Matsubara, Potocki, Pedrazza, J Richardson, P Robinson

Full Deathdate: Boling

Birthplace: De Benedetti

Birthyear: North

Day of Death: Mantova

 

Changed Information:

Birthplace: I Burgess, Krammer, M Busch (and country)

Deathdate: Duane Carter

Birthdate: Don Thomas

Also changed Orlo Trice's first name

 

Other

GP totals added, Indy 500 totals added

For the first time in years, there's two new interviews on the site; Ruggero Melgrati and Giovanni Bonanno - Melgrati - http://www.oldracing...ggero-Melgrati/ and Bonanno's - http://www.oldracing...ovanni-Bonanno/

Bonnano's in particular is a tale of what might have been..

 

Thanks

Rewind - Carter, Anspann

Richard Armstrong - Trice

Ruggero Melgrati - himself

Giovanni Bonanno - himself

Vinicio Salmi - himself

Bartl Stadler - himself

Jose (Nexfast) - Merello

Gergely Gabris - Ian Stewart

Kurt Murray-Cameron - Pratt



#772 ReWind

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 07:32

Re Miguel Ángel de Castro Santos: On his own website he confirms that he was born in April (not June).

 

I am pretty confident that he is not identical to the occasional rally driver who according to ewrc-results.com died in June 2013.



#773 Richard Jenkins

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 21:47

Thanks Reinhard, I'll update this tonight.



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Posted Yesterday, 21:38

Latest updates;

 

2014 Updates

Abiteboul, Albers, Conway, Filippi, Fernandes, Kolles, Kobayashi, Lotterer, M Lauda, Melgrati, T Stewart, Trulli, Weaver, N Wirth

 

 

WATN updates

Baumann, Burany, Capelli, Donnelly, Edwards G, Friesacher M, Flaherty, Ginther, Marozzo, Nakamura, R Schumacher, Varano, Verstappen, J Villeneuve Sr, Zimmerman

 

Died:

Buess, Dubler, England, Lancia, Stephens

 

New Information:

L Allen, McCarver - FULL details

Beeder - full birth details

Porporato - birth date

 

Changed Information:

Butcher, De Castro, Maldonado - change of birthdate

Burgess - birthplace and WATN

Nemesh - corrected birthplace spelling

SweigArt - new dates and spelling

 

Other

GP totals added

 

Thanks

Richard Murray - Zimmerman

Ales Norsky (www.gpfactsandnumbers.com) - Stephens

Rewind (Reinhard) - de Castro

Rick Kelly - Butcher

Cleo Davidson - Ginther, Nakamura

Tony Gallagher - Edwards

Peter Windsor - Lowe

Bob Baumann - Baumann

Michael Ferner - Sweigart

Gustav Berntsson - Burgess

Dave Seaton - Flaherty

Beat Schenker - Dubler

Csaba Varga - Nemesh