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[YOSSARION]

Just a little bit of a query here. I was looking through one of my older books (Guinness Guide to Grand Prix Racing) which I use for quick reference on results etc., and for the Italian Grand Prix of 1967 it shows Andrea de Adamich as a none starter in a Cooper. When I have checked with other databases there is no mention of him being entered- but there does seem to be a gap in the numbering after Bonnier's car. Does anybody know what and who he was driving for.
Also, how good was he? He outqualified Amon and Ickx for his first Grand Prix start - which is no mean feat. He won for Ferrari in F2 and sportscars fo Alfa Romeo and seemed to be lumbered with uncompetitive Alfa engines and third string cars in F1. What went wrong? Did he have some sort of falling out with Ferrari?

[Allen Brown]

Yup. He non-started Cooper T81 F1-7-66. Bonnier had bought this car and prepared it for the Italian GP but the arrangements to get de Adamich in the cockpit fell through for some reason.

Maybe it should be a DNP, rather than a DNS. Or even a DNA?

Allen

[rudi]

Yup. He non-started Cooper T81 F1-7-66. Bonnier had bought this car and prepared it for the Italian GP but the arrangements to get de Adamich in the cockpit fell through for some reason.

Maybe it should be a DNP, rather than a DNS. Or even a DNA?

Allen

In the "Motor" account of the race, it is stated that all cars were weighted before the friday practice and that de Adamich's Cooper-Maserati weighted 670 kg. A little less than the H16 BRM but 75 kg more than Bonnier's car. May be one of the reasons that decided de Adamich not to drive. So DNP.

[Tim Murray]

This would fit with what DSJ wrote in his Motor Sport report:

' ... and de Adamich decided he did not want to drive Ligier's Cooper-Maserati after all.'

[Nanni Dietrich]

Andrea De Adamich was in the original entry list of the 1967 Italian GP. At the time, only even race numbers were assigned at Monza:

2 - Chris Amon (Ferrari)
4 - Bruce McLaren (McLaren-BRM)
6 - Jo Siffert (Cooper-Maserati)
8 - Dan Gurney (Eagle-Weslake)
10 - Lodovico Scarfiotti (Eagle-Weslake)
12 - Guy Ligier (Brabham-Repco)
14 - John Surtees (Honda)
16 - Jack Brabham (Brabham-Repco)
18 - Denny Hulme (Brabham-Repco)
20 - Jim Clark (Lotus-Ford)
22 - Graham Hill (Lotus-Ford)
24 - Giancarlo Baghetti (Lotus-Ford)
26 - Joakim Bonnier (Cooper-Maserati)
28 - Andrea De Adamich (Cooper-Maserati)
30 - Jochen Rindt (Cooper-Maserati)
32 - Jacky Ickx (Cooper-Maserati)
34 - Jackie Stewart (BRM)
36 - Mike Spence (BRM)
38 - Chris Irwin (BRM)
40 - Trevor Taylor (McLaren-Climax)

According to official reports published by Italian newspapers on Saturday 09 September 1967, De Adamich renounced to make his F1 debut due to "failed financial agreement". Not specified whether the Cooper-Maserati he was to drive was a works car or Jo Bonnier's Filipinetti car (if I remember well, it was the latter).
He did not take part even in any official practice session (DNP I think...)

Edited by Nanni Dietrich, 15 October 2012 - 12:59.

[Nanni Dietrich]

By the way, a few weeks later Andrea De Adamich was signed up by the Scuderia Ferrari, having his debut on 12 November of that year, in the non-championship Spenish GP at Jarama. He qualified a fine 4th but did not finish the race.
At the time he was 26, and was considered as the most promising young Italian driver. Winner of the Italian F3 Championship in 1965, he joined Alfa Romeo, winning the ETCC in 1966 and 1967 with the GTA.
As Yossarion said, he outqualified his team mates Amon and Ickx at Kyalami on 01 Janury 1968.
Unfortunately, in March of 1968 a bad practice crash at Brands Hatch (Race of Champions) caused him a long and painful convalescence. He returned in Autumn but... he did not return to be the same.
By the end of the season he left the Scuderia Ferrari and in 1969 he joined Team Surtees, competing in Britain's F5000 and in Can-Am races.
His F1 career lasted until 1973, with a 4th place as best finish. Another bad accident in UK (Silverstone, 1973 British GP) was his last F1 start.
He dedicated himself to endurance races, becoming the first driver of the Alfa Romeo team. De Adamich scored two outright victories with the Alfa Romeo 33/3 in 1971, at Brands Hatch with Henri Pescarolo and at Watkins Glen with Ronnie Peterson, finishing 2nd in the Targa Florio close behind team mates Vaccarella-Hezemans only because his co-driver Gijs van Lennep refused to attack in the last lap.
He quit racing in the late 1970s, becoming an accomplished TV journalist.

[raceannouncer2003]

By the way, a few weeks later Andrea De Adamich was signed up by the Scuderia Ferrari, having his debut on 12 November of that year, in the non-championship Spenish GP at Jarama. He qualified a fine 4th but did not finish the race.

According to this site, there were only four Formula One cars in that race...the rest were Formula Two.

http://www.formula2.net/F267_No35.htm

Vince H.

[Roger Clark]

Andrea De Adamich was in the original entry list of the 1967 Italian GP. At the time, only even race numbers were assigned at Monza:

2 - Chris Amon (Ferrari)
4 - Bruce McLaren (McLaren-BRM)
6 - Jo Siffert (Cooper-Maserati)
8 - Dan Gurney (Eagle-Weslake)
10 - Lodovico Scarfiotti (Eagle-Weslake)
12 - Guy Ligier (Brabham-Repco)
14 - John Surtees (Honda)
16 - Jack Brabham (Brabham-Repco)
18 - Denny Hulme (Brabham-Repco)
20 - Jim Clark (Lotus-Ford)
22 - Graham Hill (Lotus-Ford)
24 - Giancarlo Baghetti (Lotus-Ford)
26 - Joakim Bonnier (Cooper-Maserati)
28 - Andrea De Adamich (Cooper-Maserati)
30 - Jochen Rindt (Cooper-Maserati)
32 - Jacky Ickx (Cooper-Maserati)
34 - Jackie Stewart (BRM)
36 - Mike Spence (BRM)
38 - Chris Irwin (BRM)
40 - Trevor Taylor (McLaren-Climax)

According to official reports published by Italian newspapers on Saturday 09 September 1967, De Adamich renounced to make his F1 debut due to "failed financial agreement". Not specified whether the Cooper-Maserati he was to drive was a works car or Jo Bonnier's Filipinetti car (if I remember well, it was the latter).
He did not take part even in any official practice session (DNP I think...)

What is the car in which Trevor Taylor was entered?

[Rob Miller]

What is the car in which Trevor Taylor was entered?

See this site

http://www.statsf1.c...ie/engages.aspx

[bill p]

......... and in 1969 he joined Team Surtees, competing in Britain's F5000 ..........

Photo 1969 Mondello Park, Ireland.



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[Roger Clark]

See this site

http://www.statsf1.c...ie/engages.aspx

Interesting; I hadn't heard of an M2B-FWMV. I think it's unlikely that they would have got a 2-litre engine out of Climax. An M2B with FPE engine was entered for the 1968 Race of Champions and Intrrnational Trophy and apparently ran briefly at Silverstone. Perhaps there is a connection.

[Tim Murray]

The relevant F1R Black Book lists the Italian GP entry with the FPE engine. It doesn't seem very likely to me that they would have installed an FWMV, then removed it and fitted the FPE for the British races in 1968.