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#1 BRG

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Posted 29 November 2002 - 15:01

This is a bit off the usual NF track, but you guys are so resourceful that I thought I could give it a whirl!

Some friends and I are trying to put together a record of the routes and all the stages used by the RAC Rally/Rally GB each year since it became a stage rally back in 1961. We are basically looking for route outlines showing the locations of the time and passage controls and the stage starts and finishes plus the overall time schedule.

This was usually provided on an opening page(s) of the road-book, or alternatively was in the rally programme or in the pages of Autosport or Motoring News. We already have the recent routes, but I would be grateful if anyone can provide any route outlines from before 1994. If you can help, or if you can point us to an information source, please PM me so that we can make whatever arrangements are necessary.

Thanks in advance! :wave:

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#2 Rainer Nyberg

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Posted 29 November 2002 - 15:52

Not OT at all, in my view ;)

Some of these routes you require, can be found in a UNIQUE MOTOR BOOKS compilation of magazine articles, called RAC RALLY 1956-1981. ISBN 1 84155 133 3.

It is listed at http://www.millhousebooks.com/ at £13.95

RAC Rally 1956-1981(UP)
Category: Motorsport
Unique Portfolio


I have mentioned it before, but will again, that the RAC from those years were something different from todays event, they did the number of Special Stages in one day, that todays event does in three days.... The 1975 event contained 72 Special Stages...;)

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Roger Clark at speed on one of the 72 stages during the 1975 RAC. (thks Rob Ryder)

#3 BRG

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Posted 29 November 2002 - 16:15

Rainer

Thanks - I will look for that.

And thanks for a splendid picture as well - particularly as it is of an Escort RS, the classic RAC Rally car, and driven by the master himself, Roger Clark. On a stage in north Wales, judging from the slate surface - maybe Dyfi or Gartheiniog?

#4 Pete Stowe

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Posted 29 November 2002 - 19:42

Originally posted by BRG
Some friends and I are trying to put together a record of the routes and all the stages used by the RAC Rally/Rally GB each year since it became a stage rally back in 1961. We are basically looking for route outlines showing the locations of the time and passage controls and the stage starts and finishes plus the overall time schedule.

This was usually provided on an opening page(s) of the road-book, or alternatively was in the rally programme or in the pages of Autosport or Motoring News. We already have the recent routes, but I would be grateful if anyone can provide any route outlines from before 1994. If you can help, or if you can point us to an information source, please PM me so that we can make whatever arrangements are necessary.

You could try the NMM Reference Library at Beaulieu - ask them to dig out the previews from MN or Autosport (or Autocar or Motor for the earlier years). They will charge a small fee & for the copying, but will probably be able to find most of what you want. They might also have some of the route cards.

#5 kabouter

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Posted 29 November 2002 - 23:52

For the years 1990-1994 you can check the archives on Darren Galpin's page. There are all the Ceefax pages on the rally, previewing each stage, no graphics of course...

http://www.silhouet....rt/almanac.html

#6 jarama

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Posted 30 November 2002 - 00:14

British,

I can provide you with the route for various years, but in "words" form, nor maps.

To say:

Starting point: X
Route: giving the main locations, rest-halts, overnight halts, etc
Finish point: Y

If you're interested, let me know and I'll send to you what I have via PM or posting here if there are other TNFers interested.

Carles.

#7 kabouter

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Posted 30 November 2002 - 01:07

Something that is slightly related to this thread - it is about the RAC Rally... - and just came up again:
In World Rallying 1986 it clearly says 35th RAC Rally. And in 1997 it was the 53rd RAC Rally. So why is there a jump in the number of editions, and when exactly did this jump happen?

#8 jarama

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Posted 30 November 2002 - 08:38

Tjeerd,

the 53rd RAC Rally was counting from its inception -back in 1932, while the 35th is counting only the International issues -from 1951 on.

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#9 kabouter

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Posted 30 November 2002 - 10:11

Originally posted by jarama
Tjeerd,

the 53rd RAC Rally was counting from its inception -back in 1932, while the 35th is counting only the International issues -from 1951 on.

Carles.

That's a reasonable explanation. But why did the organizers decide before the 1990 edition - I just found out that the shift in naming occurred between 1989 and 1990 - they needed more history in the name?

#10 jarama

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Posted 30 November 2002 - 15:19

Originally posted by kabouter

That's a reasonable explanation. But why did the organizers decide before the 1990 edition - I just found out that the shift in naming occurred between 1989 and 1990 - they needed more history in the name?



:confused:

Carles.

#11 jarama

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Posted 19 January 2003 - 17:32

BRG,

I've just found the route for the 1982 RAC Rally:

Sunday 21st, York - Bramham - Doncaster - Clumber - Sutton Park - Birmingham - Bewdley - Cheltenham (rally halt) - Cardiff

Monday 22nd, Dolgellau (rally halt) - Oulton Park - Manchester - Leeds - York

Tuesday 23rd, York - Croft - Witton - Lambton - Gosforth (rally halt) - Hawick

Wednesday 24th, Carlisle (rally halt) - Keswick - Harewood - York

Thursday 25th, York - Teeside - Scarborough (rally halt) - York

Hope this helps.

Carles.