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#1 Leo

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Posted 13 December 2002 - 23:11

I came across the following quiz on the MST timing website and I thought some of you might be interested. I'm afraid that my historical knowledge is too limited to be able to answer more than only a few questions, but I guess it's a rather easy excercise for some of the die-hard TNF-ers. Anyway I think some of the questions can at least lead to an interesting conversation. Have fun!

1. Where did the Mashonaland Motor Sports Association acquire a site for a motorsport complex and what was the circuit called?

2. Who made his F5000 debut at Oulton Park in Sept 1970 and in what car?

3. Where did the Donegal M/C hold there first ever speed event and when? Who had BTD and in what?

4. What was the name of the original motor racing school at Brands Hatch, when was it formed and when did it operate?

5. Who were the first three in the first Grovewood Awards?

6. Three major winners of the Grovewood Award have been killed whilst racing at one circuit, who were they, when did they win and which was the circuit?

7. What was the first gas turbine car to race at Brands Hatch, when, who were the drivers and who was listed to drive but didn't appear?

8. Who were the drivers of the 1965 Le Mans winning NART Ferrari 250LM?

9. Who was the first Japanese driver to win a race in the UK, where and in which year?

10. Where and when did Mclaren as a marque score it's first Formula 1 victory?

11. Who won the 1980 RAC Group One championship and what car was he driving?

12. Who won his second which was also his first F1 victory for his own marque, and which event?

13. Name 20 circuits in use in the UK during 1954.

14. Which championship saw it's debut at Brands Hatch in 1971 and who won the first round driving what car?

15. Who was the 1959 European Rally champion?

16. Who were the first all female crew to win an International Rally, which event and which car?

17. Which car won 4 Coupes des Alpes in the 1953 International Alpine Trial and what other trophy did it win on the event?

18. Who won the first International Welsh Rally and what car were they driving?

19. When Croft re-opened in 1964 who won the first race and what car was he driving?

20. What was different about the 1971 Le Mans?

21. Who was the first British drag racer to break 7secs for the standing 1/4?

22. Who won the first caravan race and what was he driving?

23. Who won the inaugural F100 race and in what car?

24. What was unusual about the Man of the Meeting award at Ingliston in July 1974 and who won it?

25. Who won the Venezuelan Grand Prix in 1954 and what was he driving?

26. Who won the 4th Grand Prix of Caen and what was he driving?

27. Who finished second on the road in the 1956 Targa Florio but was later
disqualified and why?

28. Who drove a Lotus 18 for Wolfgang Seidel at Monaco in 1961?

29. Who was Fangio’s protégé who tried the UDT Lotus 18 at Reims in 1961?

30. Which was the only world titled series event to be held in Central America (clue 1979)?

31. Who drove the twin engined Mini in the 1963 Targa Florio?

32. Brian Redman and Peter Gethin only drove together once, where, when and in what car?

33. Who designed the Nomad sports car?

34. What was the Honker 11(Two), who designed it and who built it?

35. Who came fifth overall in the Kyalami 9hr race in 1964?

36. What was the Dagrada?

37. What did the McRae become and who drove it in the 1975 Tasman series?

38. Which circuit had a Weighbridge corner?

39. Who was the first person to win a race with a Jaguar XK120, who else was in the team that day?

40. What was the name of the Cooper look alike powered by a Peugeot engine that raced at the Rand GP in the early sixties?

41. What was the name of the only Canadian car to compete in a World Championship GP, who drove it, where, and what was he result?

42. What was Renzo Zorzi's fastest race lap at the 1977 Argentinian GP?

43. Which March GP driver took a break from single seaters in 1977 and competed in a rallycross and what had he just won?

44. Who gave the Peugeot 504 Coupe' V6 it's first outright victory and on which event?

45. Who started his 1976 season by writing off the works March F2 development car and ended the season by destroying the 1977 F2 prototype?

46. What branch of the sport did Mclaren enter in 1977, who was the driver and what was the car?

47. Who won the 1976 Shellsport Goldstar Award?

48. Who won the last ever Ford Rallyman of the Month Competition?

49. Which car did Jacques Laffite drive in the 1969 French F3 Championship and who did he take the drive over from?

50. Who won the Clubmans Trophy on the 1976 RAC Rally?

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#2 Wolf

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 00:34

I do not have my Moss book at hand, but:

#17 Would it be Sunbeam Alpine? And additional trophy would be Coupe des Alpes en Argent, ou Or (Silver or Golden Alpine Cup) for Moss

#3 Vincenzo Lancia

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 00:54

I was about to quote an hounered members bottomline " What we know is so much more than what we don't know" (quoted after memory), when I saw 2 questions that I can say something not totally incorrect about. ( well the qoute still seems appropriate )

1971 Le Mans was different because the traditional Le Mans start (drivers standing on the opposite side of the road) was replaced by a more modern driver in car start, with the cars standing in a "grid" two by two.

Besides it was, and still IS the fastest Le Mans ever.

1965 Le Mans winning drivers was Jochen Rindt, ehhh and ehhh Richie Ginther??hmmm, ( + one more I've heard )

#4 Gary C

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 01:00

65 Le Mans was Jochen and Masten Gregory

#5 Vitesse2

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 01:01

OTOMH

1 Kumalo? James McNellie Circuit.

8 Rindt & Gregory

9 Tetsu Ikuzawa, 1968, possibly Brands Hatch

10 Race of Champions 1968

14 FF2000?

16 Moss/Wisdom, 1960 Liege-Rome-Liege, Austin Healey

25 Was there a 1954 Venezuelan GP? I thought it started in 1955.

26 Harry Schell, Maserati

#6 Milan Fistonic

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 01:38

6. The three Grovewood winners to die at the same circut were Piers Courage (winner in 1965), Chris Lambert (1966) and Roger Williamson (1971). They all died at Zandvoort.

#7 Milan Fistonic

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 01:39

5. The first three in the first Grovewood Awards were Richard Attwood, Tony Hegbourne and Brian Hart.

#8 Milan Fistonic

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 01:43

2. David Walker in the Lotus Components Lotus 70.

#9 Milan Fistonic

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 01:47

10. McLaren's first F1 victory was in the Race of Champions at Brands Hatch on March 17, 1968. Bruce was driving M7A/1.

#10 Milan Fistonic

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 01:51

11. Win Percy driving a Mazda RX7.

#11 Milan Fistonic

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 01:55

15. Paul Coltelloni

#12 Milan Fistonic

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 02:05

27. The Osca of Cabianca and Villoresi finished second in the 1956 Targa Florio but were excluded because of a technicality over Villoresi's entry.

#13 Milan Fistonic

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 02:12

41. The Canadian GP car was the Stebro 4 -Ford driven by Peter Broeker in the 1963 US GP at Watkins Glen. He finished seventh, 22 laps behind the winner.

#14 Milan Fistonic

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 02:23

31. Whitmore and Frere drove the twin-engined Mini in the 1963 Targa Florio.

#15 Milan Fistonic

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 02:45

28. Michael May drove Seidel's Scuderia Colonia Lotus 18 in the 1961 Monaco GP.

#16 Milan Fistonic

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 02:50

33. Bob Curl designed the Nomad sports car.

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 03:53

42. Renzo Zorzi's fastest lap in the 1977 Argentine GP was 2m 0.73s set on lap 2 (his last).

#18 Milan Fistonic

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 04:15

Originally posted by Vitesse2
OTOMH

9 Tetsu Ikuzawa, 1968, possibly Brands Hatch



If it was Ikuzawa then the race was at Mallory Park on July 28, 1968.

#19 Milan Fistonic

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 04:35

14. Formula Atlantic made its debut at Brands Hatch on March 7, 1971 where the winner of the first race was Vern Schuppan driving a Palliser-BRM t/c WDB4.

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#20 Milan Fistonic

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 04:45

24. The "Man of the Meeting" at Ingliston in July 1974 was a woman.

She was Mrs Jenny Birrell.

She won the Production Saloon car race driving a Vauxhall Magnum. Husband Graham was third in a Hillman Hunter GLS.

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 06:10

#8 - 1965 LeMans winners in the 250 LM were Masten Gregory, Jochen Rindt and Ed Hugus.

#13 - Silverstone, Brands Hatch, Castle Combe, Oulton Park, Goodwood, Aintree (first year!), Crystal Palace, Snetterton, Ibsley, Brough, Cadwell Park, Thruxton, Davidstow, Dundrod, Charterhall, Douglas, Turnberry, Boreham, Prescott, Shelsley Walsh

#22 David McKinney

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 06:28

Still at this quiz business, Milan :lol:

Interesting that this thread should be started when sensible European TNFers were tucked up in their beds :(

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 06:56

Originally posted by Leo

23. Who won the inaugural F100 race and in what car?

34. What was the Honker 11(Two), who designed it and who built it?

37. What did the McRae become and who drove it in the 1975 Tasman series?


23 - as a wild guess, I'd suggest Ray Allen in a Royale...
34 - a Ford-powered Group 7 sports car?
37 - became a wild, overpaid, accident-prone rally driver... oh I see, sorry, it became the Leda didn't it?

#24 Milan Fistonic

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 07:59

Originally posted by 2F-001


37 - became a wild, overpaid, accident-prone rally driver... oh I see, sorry, it became the Leda didn't it?



No, it became the Talon and was driven by Chris Amon.

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 07:59

19: Robin Smith (Lotus Cortina)

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 08:03

35: Olthoff/Sears (Cobra)

#27 Milan Fistonic

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 08:04

Originally posted by 2F-001


34 - a Ford-powered Group 7 sports car?



Designed by Len Bailey.

Built by Alan Mann Racing.

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 08:28

39. Leslie Johnson was the first man to win a race driving a Jaguar XK120. His team mates at the August 1949 meeting at Silverstone were Bira and Peter Walker.

#29 Milan Fistonic

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 08:33

29. Juan Manuel Bordeu drove the UDT Lotus 18 at Reims in 1961.

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 08:45

46. It was IMSA racing. The driver was David Hobbs and the car was a BMW 320 Turbo.

#31 Milan Fistonic

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 09:08

12. The event is the Oulton Park Gold Cup and the driver is John Surtees.

He won his first in 1965 driving a Lola T60 - Ford.

His second win came in 1970 at the wheel of a Surtees TS7 - Ford.

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 09:13

36. Wasn't the Dagrada a front-engined Italian Formula Junior car? Or maybe a spaghetti dish made with sundry spices.

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 09:45

7. The turbine car was the Howmet TX driven by Dr. Dick Thompson and Hugh Dibley with Ray Heppenstall as reserve. The race was the BOAC 500 held on April 7, 1968.

The driver listed who did not appear was probably Jim Clark. He, of course, was racing at Hockenheim that fateful day.

#34 Milan Fistonic

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 09:47

Originally posted by Barry Boor
36. Wasn't the Dagrada a front-engined Italian Formula Junior car? Or maybe a spaghetti dish made with sundry spices.


With a Lancia Appia V4 engine. The car, that is, not the spaghetti.

#35 Roger Clark

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 10:02

32 Brands Hatch 100kms, 29 September 1974. Chevron B26-Hart. 1st in class 4th overall

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 10:04

40 Netuar

#37 Vitesse2

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 12:11

Originally posted by David McKinney
Interesting that this thread should be started when sensible European TNFers were tucked up in their beds :(


Believe me David, I would have been in bed too if a b*****d Christmas decoration hadn't set off a f****** movement detector on my store's alarm system! I waited two hours for an engineer to arrive to reset it - when he finally got there it took him two minutes to reset, and three minutes to do the paperwork!! :mad: :mad:

Rant over - normal service will now be resumed .....

#38 Vitesse2

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 13:22

4 Could it have been ....



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Posted 14 December 2002 - 14:09

Originally posted by Mike Argetsinger
#13 - Silverstone, Brands Hatch, Castle Combe, Oulton Park, Goodwood, Aintree (first year!), Crystal Palace, Snetterton, Ibsley, Brough, Cadwell Park, Thruxton, Davidstow, Dundrod, Charterhall, Douglas, Turnberry, Boreham, Prescott, Shelsley Walsh


Douglas wasn't used after 1951, Dundrod wasn't used in 1954 and the last two are hillclimbs! You missed Kirkistown, but that still leaves three to find. The original question says UK, but maybe they mean British Isles? In which case add Phoenix Park, Curragh, Carrigrohane and Wicklow - but that makes 21!

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#40 David McKinney

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 14:24

Originally posted by Vitesse2

Douglas wasn't used after 1951, Dundrod wasn't used in 1954

Dundrod certainly was used in 1954, for a small event which counted towards the world sportscar championship. Douglas wasn't used in 1954, but it was used after 1951, again for sportscar races

One name missing from Mike Argetsinger's list is Beveridge Park

#41 Vitesse2

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 14:32

Originally posted by David McKinney

Dundrod certainly was used in 1954, for a small event which counted towards the world sportscar championship.


Ooops! :blush:

So, including Dundrod, Kirkistown and Beveridge Park that makes 19. Was Croft in operation in 1954? Or maybe Ingliston? Where's BJB's Autosport Directory when we need it? :lol:

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 15:20

Autosport Directory lists the following:
Aintree, Beveridge Park, Blandford, Brands Hatch, Cadwell Park, Crystal Palace, Dundrod, Oulton Park, St. Helier (those are the road circuits)
then
Boreham, Brough, Charterhall, Castle Combe, Cranfield, Davidstow, Fairwood, Goodwood, Fantasticwood, Ibsley, Kiskistown, Silverstone, Snetterton, Thruxton. (Airfield tracks)
and finally
The Curragh, Phoenix Park, Wicklow (in the Republic)

BTW, I lied about Fantasticwood!

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 15:46

Originally posted by Barry Boor
Autosport Directory lists the following:
Aintree, Beveridge Park, Blandford, Brands Hatch, Cadwell Park, Crystal Palace, Dundrod, Oulton Park, St. Helier (those are the road circuits)
then
Boreham, Brough, Charterhall, Castle Combe, Cranfield, Davidstow, Fairwood, Goodwood, Fantasticwood, Ibsley, Kiskistown, Silverstone, Snetterton, Thruxton. (Airfield tracks)
and finally
The Curragh, Phoenix Park, Wicklow (in the Republic)

BTW, I lied about Fantasticwood!

I don't think Thruxton was used for car racing in 1954 only bikes. if we are including bikes then you must add IOM Mountain circuit.

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 15:49

The text attached to the Thruxton entry does indeed say that it was only used for motor cycle racing in 1954.

P.S. Apparently, I cannot spell Kirkistown! :blush:

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 17:54

Barry - I liked Kiskistown - sounds like a place that would be a lot of fun! Can you imagine the winner's circle?

I know both Thruxton and Douglas had car races in 1953 - but you're right - on closer examination I can't find anything for 1954.

And as for my inclusion of the two hillclimbs - of course, something that does not connect cannot, by definition, be a circuit!

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 22:29

Was St Helier still in use in 1954? Or is this a bit of kite-flying for an event that never happened? And I think we established recently that Jersey isn't part of the UK anyway ....

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 22:47

The book says...... that financial difficulties precluded racing on this track after 1952. However, at time of printing, it was hoped that racing would resume in the 'near future'. :rolleyes:

Jersey may not be part of the U.K, but as long as I can spend my ££££££££'s there, it's part of the 'Empire'! :|

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 23:46

44 Ove Andersson and Arne Hertz. Safari Rally 1975.

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Posted 14 December 2002 - 23:52

49 Martini MW3. Etienne Vigoreux. :eek:

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Posted 15 December 2002 - 09:22

Originally posted by Barry Boor
Jersey may not be part of the U.K, but as long as I can spend my ££££££££'s there, it's part of the 'Empire'! :|

So that stops with the introduction of the €€€€€€€€? Well, something has to go, I guess... :lol: