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#1 Claeys

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Posted 16 December 2002 - 15:45

Hi,

For a while now I try to find more information on 'The Tulip Stable', the team of Klaas 'Jimmy' Twisk. From the F2 Register of Stefan I know he participated in several F2 races (one DNS because 'too slow'), somewhere else I found some German F3-races mentioned and in Christian Naviaux's book about NC F1 races I found he participated in the London Trophy, at Crystal Palace.
I suppose Twisk is Dutch, no doubt about it with this name. Of course he could be second generation, because I don't think he ever raced in the Netherlands. His nickname could point out that he was living in England for sometime already (try pronounce Klaas, British TNF'ers).
Does anybody know where I can find more information? Or, maybe, where I can find Twisk himself?

I would be very grateful.

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#2 scheivlak

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Posted 16 December 2002 - 23:01

Originally posted by Claeys
Or, maybe, where I can find Twisk himself?


Well , Twisk isn't hard to find - the village, that is....
http://www.museumsto...s/stationtk.htm -photo: Klaas (!) Laan
Somewhere between Hoorn and Medemblik (north of Amsterdam), where the time stood still...

http://home.wanadoo....nior/63ifj.html
gives him indeed as Dutchman, 5th in the Circuito di Collemaggio - Gran Premio Cidonio, L'Aquila, driving a Brabham Ford, 14 July 1963.

#3 Claeys

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Posted 16 December 2002 - 23:13

Thanks. all bits help. :lol:
The easiest clue that he is a Dutchman is the name of his team though, the Tulip Stable.

Anybody else?

#4 David McKinney

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Posted 17 December 2002 - 06:12

He was indeed a Dutchman, though based in the UK, at least when he started racing

#5 Frank de Jong

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Posted 17 December 2002 - 08:08

Originally posted by Claeys

...(try pronounce Klaas, British TNF'ers).


Well, the British TNF'ers may have had some practice; Klaas Zwart made some impression on the British racing scene the last few years...

#6 René de Boer

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Posted 17 December 2002 - 19:22

Originally posted by Frank de Jong


Well, the British TNF'ers may have had some practice; Klaas Zwart made some impression on the British racing scene the last few years...


Not to mention his daughter Paulien, who, according to me, is not only one of the best-looking female racing drivers currently around, but also a very warm and charming personality. But that's a different story.

Btw, there was a Norwegian driver by the name of Clas Esbjug driving in the British Ford Fiesta Cup a few years ago, and I recall a situation standing next to Tiff Needell in the men's room of the Brands Hatch press centre, where he asked me: "How on earth do I have to pronounce that?" When I explained Tiff that I was Dutch, rather than Norwegian, his response was: "What the ..., Scandinavians or Dutch, to us Brits, all these guttural languages sounds the same anyway!"

#7 David McKinney

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Posted 17 December 2002 - 19:57

Getting back OT -
From the Racing Drivers Directory in Motor Sport May 1960:
K Y "Jimmy" Twisk drives a Formula 2 Cooper from the Tulip Stable, so named because it is Dutch-sponsored and the driver is engaged in the horticultural trade. In 1958 he drove a TR3 with one or two placings in club meetings and with the Cooper last year he wisely restricted himself to club meetings, gaining three second places and the Allday Trophy for fastest lap at the SUNBAC meeting. The Cooper will be used for the 1960 season in National and International races. It is painted green with orange nose to indicate its Dutch connections

#8 Claeys

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Posted 17 December 2002 - 20:43

Thanks David, this really helps. 'Engaged in the horticultural trade', I should have guessed. Maybe I should try to call some people in the Netherlands who are in the same business. Maybe they know.

#9 David M. Kane

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Posted 18 December 2002 - 18:02

I noticed Andrea DeAdamich in these results, any idea how old he was at the time?

Secondly, to do a one race what kind of fuel load do you reckon they had to carry? May sound silly, but my wife has a Lotus 22 and I'm not sure we could pull that off and I THINK it is an original tank.

#10 Arjan de Roos

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Posted 11 October 2005 - 14:50

This question was never answered. Does anyone (new) now know more about Klaas Twisk and his Tullip Stable? His and his team names are quite dutch. But was he indeed a fully emigrated englishman, or did he have two passports?

What about him now? He must be in his seventies, eighties if still around.

Any pictures?

#11 Arjan de Roos

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Posted 12 October 2005 - 14:08

This is what I could find on Klaas Twisk's race results. Anyone any additions?

Event Track Date (Practice) Race Remarks
VII London Trophy Crystal Palace 5/18/1959 (?) 10 2 laps behind leader
IV Silver City Trophy Snetterton 10/10/1959 (23) 16
I Oulton Park Trophy Oulton Park 4/2/1960 (?) DNF Accident
I Lancashire and Cheshire F2 Race Oulton Park 5/7/1960 (?) DNF
V Prix de Paris Montlhery 5/15/1960 (?) 3 1'33"8 behind Trintignant/1
XXX Grand Prix des Frontieres Chimay 6/5/1960 (?) DNF Gearbox
III Flugplatzrennen Zeltweg Zeltweg 9/18/1960 (?) DNF Suspension
I Preis von Tirol Innsbruck 10/8/1960 (?) DNF
Rufforth 10/9/1960 (?) 1
IX London Trophy Crystal Palace 5/23/1961 (14) DNF Engine
Circuito di Collemaggio L'Aquila 7/9/1961 4th in Heat2
Sachsenringrennen Sachsenring 9/3/1961 (?) DNF **
V Grand Prix de Monaco Junior Monte Carlo 5/25/1963 (H1 6th) 12 *** 1L down
Gran Premio Cidonio Circuito di Collemaggio 7/14/1963 (H2 4th) 5 ***
Grosser Preis der Solitude Solitude 7/28/1963 (14) 11 *** 1L down
Flugplatzrennen Achum Achum 9/15/1963 (?) 9 ***
Eifelpokal Rennen Nürburgring Südschleife 9/29/1963 (25) R
XXX Grand Prix de Reims Reims 7/5/1964 (?) DNS ****
Copenhagen Grand Prix Roskilde Ring 08/15&16/1964 (H3 3rd) 10 # 10th in finals: heat 5-7


Car indications:
Cooper-Climax T51 'F2-11-59' *
Lola MK3 Ford **
Brabham BT2 - Ford ***
Cooper T65 - Cosworth ****
Cooper T67- Ford/Cosworth #

#12 Arjan de Roos

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 15:37

Born: 13/7/1930

Twisk as a family name originates from the area around Castricum-Heemskerk. Still many people with that name live their.
Not to be confused with Van Twisk, which seems to have Frisian (Friesland) origins.

Where in the UK can we find a Twisk family members?

#13 David McKinney

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 16:27

His mechanic on the FJ Brabham in 1963 occasionally posts here, and has been known to attend TNF Northern get-togethers (I'm told).
He would presumably know where Twisk lived then

#14 Formula Once

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 14:18

I thought I'd revive this thread, as not much came out of it first time round. Does anyone know more now?

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 17:29

I thought I'd revive this thread, as not much came out of it first time round. Does anyone know more now?


Nobody?

#16 ReWind

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 18:03

This should be helpful.
BTW, what are the problems for some with googling?

#17 Formula Once

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 19:03

This should be helpful.
BTW, what are the problems for some with googling?


Thank you ReWind, this does shed some light on his family. No problem with googling by the way; I found already much info on Klaas Twisk's racing results.

#18 katymouse

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 21:30

Hello all, I am Jim Twisk's eldest daughter. Very happy to reply to any sensible questions you may have.

#19 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 22:45

Welcome to katymouse .

K Y Twisk , Klaas Twisk , "Jimmy" Twisk , Jim Twisk , are we talking a bout the same person here ?

Edited by Bjørn Kjer, 29 September 2010 - 22:46.


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#20 katymouse

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 14:40

Welcome to katymouse .

K Y Twisk , Klaas Twisk , "Jimmy" Twisk , Jim Twisk , are we talking a bout the same person here ?


yes!

#21 mkessens

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:19

Hi,

I'm looking for pictures of Klaas 'Jimmie' Twisk. Pictures of him are very rare, i found just one...

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http://www.technisch.../0000329678.jpg

Who wants to help me with this request?

#22 D-Type

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 17:48

Getting back OT -
From the Racing Drivers Directory in Motor Sport May 1960:
K Y "Jimmy" Twisk drives a Formula 2 Cooper from the Tulip Stable, so named because it is Dutch-sponsored and the driver is engaged in the horticultural trade. In 1958 he drove a TR3 with one or two placings in club meetings and with the Cooper last year he wisely restricted himself to club meetings, gaining three second places and the Allday Trophy for fastest lap at the SUNBAC meeting. The Cooper will be used for the 1960 season in National and International races. It is painted green with orange nose to indicate its Dutch connections


The photo clearly shows the colour scheme.

This is what I could find on Klaas Twisk's race results. Anyone any additions?

Event Track Date (Practice) Race Remarks
VII London Trophy Crystal Palace 5/18/1959 (?) 10 2 laps behind leader
IV Silver City Trophy Snetterton 10/10/1959 (23) 16
I Oulton Park Trophy Oulton Park 4/2/1960 (?) DNF Accident
I Lancashire and Cheshire F2 Race Oulton Park 5/7/1960 (?) DNF
V Prix de Paris Montlhery 5/15/1960 (?) 3 1'33"8 behind Trintignant/1
XXX Grand Prix des Frontieres Chimay 6/5/1960 (?) DNF Gearbox
III Flugplatzrennen Zeltweg Zeltweg 9/18/1960 (?) DNF Suspension
I Preis von Tirol Innsbruck 10/8/1960 (?) DNF
Rufforth 10/9/1960 (?) 1
IX London Trophy Crystal Palace 5/23/1961 (14) DNF Engine
Circuito di Collemaggio L'Aquila 7/9/1961 4th in Heat2
Sachsenringrennen Sachsenring 9/3/1961 (?) DNF **
V Grand Prix de Monaco Junior Monte Carlo 5/25/1963 (H1 6th) 12 *** 1L down
Gran Premio Cidonio Circuito di Collemaggio 7/14/1963 (H2 4th) 5 ***
Grosser Preis der Solitude Solitude 7/28/1963 (14) 11 *** 1L down
Flugplatzrennen Achum Achum 9/15/1963 (?) 9 ***
Eifelpokal Rennen Nürburgring Südschleife 9/29/1963 (25) R
XXX Grand Prix de Reims Reims 7/5/1964 (?) DNS ****
Copenhagen Grand Prix Roskilde Ring 08/15&16/1964 (H3 3rd) 10 # 10th in finals: heat 5-7


Car indications:
Cooper-Climax T51 'F2-11-59' *
Lola MK3 Ford **
Brabham BT2 - Ford ***
Cooper T65 - Cosworth ****
Cooper T67- Ford/Cosworth #


Is the photo taken at Zeltweg? If not, where?

#23 Tim Murray

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 18:13

The numbers certainly fit the Zeltweg race:

http://www.formula2.net/F260_22.htm

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 05:56

The photo clearly shows the colour scheme.



Is the photo taken at Zeltweg? If not, where?


Yes, it was taken at Zeltweg. The url of the photo is below the picture. Al lot of photos of this race and more races in Austria you can find there.

http://www.technisch.../articleid/1762

Edited by mkessens, 11 July 2012 - 05:58.