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#1 Bjorn

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Posted 11 January 2003 - 15:53

I had this idea a couple of days ago. This first Livery Design Competition (LDC) will be more open and experimental than future LDCs, and is more or less to check out if there is enough interest and such.

Basically what it's all about is you design a livery (or liveries), and then there will be a final vote on the best liveries in various categories. The details of this will be decided later, based on how things go. How you make your livery (or liveries) is entirely up to you: draw, paint, make a skin for one of the computer games out there and post some screenshots, design a 3d model and skin it, it doesn't matter. In the end it should be the best livery that wins, not how it's made (but a good presentation will usually hold an advantage!). All liveries should be made for modern cars. They don't have to look like a 2003 model car, just modern. Roughly the same shape, as it were. :)

It's a bit late this year, should be a strictly off-season kind of game, so the first LDC will be informal as I mentioned before. But here are my ideas of how this, and future LDCs, might work:

This LDC:
- No entries will be accepted after May 20th.
- A showcase will be ready and voting starts on June 1st, after the GP of Monaco.
- Post your livery in this thread as soon as you've made it. I want everyone to see what's being done immediately this one time, so comments and such can be posted and any issues resolved before the first 'proper' LDC.
- Voting categories might include: Best Livery, Best Drawing/Painting, Best Skinning, Best 3d Design, Best Fantasy Design (New team, new sponsors, new everything), Best "Real" Design (need a better name for this, it means real team with the same/potential sponsors, but a new design) etc.

Future LDCs
- Entries will be accepted between the end of the season, and the first unveiling of the following season.
- Liveries will not be posted here, but sent to me. They will then be unveiled and voted upon shortly before the start of the season.
- Voting categories might include: all those above, but also Closest Guess (a team announces it will have a new sponsor. The participants might try and imagine what that design will look like and whoever gets closest, in the voters' opinion, wins).

Ideas for liveries:
- Make a livery for a current team using current sponsors.
- Make a livery for a current team using different sponsors.
- Make a livery for a past team, imagine what it might look like today.
- Make a livery for a future team, a team that might enter F1 in the future.
- Make a livery for a fantasy team, a team that never will exist and never has.
and so on...

For now, there are really no rules, and those guidelines above are there to be ignored.;) We'll tackle any issues that might come up before the next LDC.

Get designing, folks. Any thoughts about this will be very much appreciated.

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#2 StickShift

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Posted 11 January 2003 - 16:07

great idea Bjorn. :D

#3 The Kanisteri

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Posted 11 January 2003 - 19:59

Originally posted by StickShift
great idea Bjorn. :D


yeah. :up:

#4 FW11B

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Posted 11 January 2003 - 20:25

Great Idea Bjorn

Here's a few for the fantasy category

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... come on, did you expect me not to bother!!! ;)

#5 The Kanisteri

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Posted 11 January 2003 - 20:31

The Kanisteri Posted Image FW11b

Professionals out! :lol:

#6 FW11B

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Posted 11 January 2003 - 20:50

Originally posted by The Kanisteri
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Professionals out! :lol:


Check the profile - I'm a General dogs body by profession :p

Anyway couldn't not post the Marlboro Mclaren Mercedes MP4/17...

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#7 gerry nassar

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Posted 13 January 2003 - 02:17

Originally posted by FW11B


Check the profile - I'm a General dogs body by profession :p

Anyway couldn't not post the Marlboro Mclaren Mercedes MP4/17...

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Brilliant!!!!!

Why is it that these pictures always look better than the real cars and liveries!!??

Keep it up - id love to see more!!!! :up:

#8 Bjorn

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Posted 13 January 2003 - 02:21

Yep, absolutely love that McLaren, one of FW's greatest hits, as it were.. :p:up:

#9 Flying Panda

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Posted 13 January 2003 - 02:38

Originally posted by gerry nassar
Why is it that these pictures always look better than the real cars and liveries!!??

Because these were designed to look good, 'real' livieres are designed to promote the sponsers.

#10 maxie

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Posted 13 January 2003 - 03:14

:clap: Fantastic! :clap: :clap:

I'd love to see Atlas F1 on an real F1 car somehow, someday ...

#11 FW11B

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Posted 13 January 2003 - 21:41

Originally posted by Flying Panda
Because these were designed to look good, 'real' livieres are designed to promote the sponsers.


Can't you have both? :

#12 FW11B

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Posted 14 January 2003 - 12:56

Gold Leaf Team Mclaren.....

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Tried to keep the sponsors to a minimum as per the original Lotus design, also had to find somewhere to put the numbers, not too sure about the final postioning.. :

#13 Bjorn

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Posted 14 January 2003 - 13:00

Wicked! :D :clap:

I'll really have to start making contributions myself... :p

#14 The Kanisteri

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Posted 18 January 2003 - 09:31

"Best non-FW11B based design award goes ....." :p


Great stuff FW11B!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:

#15 Rob G

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Posted 20 January 2003 - 15:43

Terrific idea, Bjorn! I'll have to bust out my art supplies and get cracking. :clap: :up:

#16 TheD2JBug

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Posted 20 January 2003 - 16:01

Originally posted by FW11B
Gold Leaf Team Mclaren.....

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Tried to keep the sponsors to a minimum as per the original Lotus design, also had to find somewhere to put the numbers, not too sure about the final postioning.. :


damm that's fly.

Any chance of a Jordan191 render ?

#17 Cappo

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Posted 20 January 2003 - 16:14

Fantastic artwork FW11B - just wondering what programmes are you using? :up:

#18 kanec

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Posted 20 January 2003 - 16:26

I'll attempt to lower the standard by a huge amount.

This is one I did last year in Readers Comments when all were pondering Jordans animal for the season.
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#19 Brackets

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Posted 24 January 2003 - 16:34

I just had an idea (hey, it happens about once a year).

Since hardly anybody on these boards can/wants to do 3D cars, how's about we bribe FW11B into putting up some black and white wireframes and/or 2D drawings (side/top/front/back view) of a standardised car. It could be the McLaren as seen on this thread, but it may just as well be the fantasy Atlas car as far as I'm concerned.

Anyway, with these standard drawings everybody would have a chance to do some designing. You could even make a print-out, use crayons (paintbrush, oil painting, etc) and then scan it all back in.

This way a lot more people - including me! - could participate, and also the voting would be more fair as everybody submits the same drawing, with the only variable being the paintjob.

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#20 Bjorn

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Posted 24 January 2003 - 17:09

If I understand you correctly, I agree with you to an extent.

If you can persuade FW11B to do this, I've no problem with anyone submitting a livery like that. It's very much in the spirit of the competition as outlined in the first post.

I still think people should be allowed to post their livery in the form they prefer though. This would be a very viable option, but not the only option (again, if I understood you correctly).

#21 FW11B

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Posted 24 January 2003 - 17:45

Originally posted by Jimbo
I just had an idea (hey, it happens about once a year).

Since hardly anybody on these boards can/wants to do 3D cars, how's about we bribe FW11B into putting up some black and white wireframes and/or 2D drawings (side/top/front/back view) of a standardised car. It could be the McLaren as seen on this thread, but it may just as well be the fantasy Atlas car as far as I'm concerned.

Anyway, with these standard drawings everybody would have a chance to do some designing. You could even make a print-out, use crayons (paintbrush, oil painting, etc) and then scan it all back in.

This way a lot more people - including me! - could participate, and also the voting would be more fair as everybody submits the same drawing, with the only variable being the paintjob.



Originally posted by Bjorn
If I understand you correctly, I agree with you to an extent.

If you can persuade FW11B to do this, I've no problem with anyone submitting a livery like that. It's very much in the spirit of the competition as outlined in the first post.

I still think people should be allowed to post their livery in the form they prefer though. This would be a very viable option, but not the only option (again, if I understood you correctly).



I've no problem with that ....

Mclaren
Ferrari
Arrows
AF1-003

Those are the more recent ones.

#22 Rob G

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Posted 24 January 2003 - 21:13

Oooh, that Arrows one would be great to use. Thanks!

#23 Brackets

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Posted 27 January 2003 - 09:40

Great! Those are exactly the type of drawings I was hoping for.

Bjorn, you understood correctly :). I just wanted to open the competition for people - like me - who don't know how to (3D-)model a car (beyond basic MS-Paint stuff), let alone add a paintjob to it.


***Jimbo rushes off into the distance, frantically searching for his box of crayons and a pencil sharpener***

#24 EvilPhil

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Posted 27 January 2003 - 21:49

Posted Image :)

#25 Rob G

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Posted 18 February 2003 - 16:14

I have slapped something together and just have to scan it and figure out how to post it. I hope to have it done in the next day or two, but if not it'll be sometime next week.

This has been so much fun I have plans for a second one also.. :up:

#26 Bjorn

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Posted 18 February 2003 - 17:26

Originally posted by EvilPhil
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:eek: :up: Looks sweet


About time I went and did something, damnit! I did start this competition :p

#27 Rob G

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Posted 19 February 2003 - 23:38

OK, EvilPhil's is a tough act to follow, but I'll do it anyway. This is how I'd envision an Audi F1 car:

Click here to see it.

The sponsors are or were sponsors of the Joest Audi ALMs effort, including Canon who jumped on board for 2003. The drawing was done all in Prismacolor pencil. Please be kind. :blush:

#28 garth_b

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Posted 20 February 2003 - 06:08

Good effort Rob G. It looks a bit like a cross between the Toyota and BAR paint jobs. I like how you put the car number on the sidepods too. Team principals take note!

#29 skinnylizard

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Posted 20 February 2003 - 09:18

Ladies and Gentleman id like to congratulate all of you who have submitted or are about to submit designs. You f*****s have some serious talent..if you guys think u dont..ive been trying this on photoshop for like all afternoon and what i have is called
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crap
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u get the drift...
awesome job guys...
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PS. Anyone have any tips for total amaterus like me...??? please help out

#30 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 22 February 2003 - 00:22

This might constitute cheating but...

http://ross.stonefeld.com/sebring.jpg

http://ross.stonefeld.com/R81.jpg

#31 Schuting Star

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Posted 22 February 2003 - 00:33

Originally posted by Rob G
This is how I'd envision an Audi F1 car:
Click here to see it.

Looks wonderful! if only...

#32 Bjorn

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Posted 05 March 2003 - 22:27

Another Audi...

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#33 garth_b

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Posted 06 March 2003 - 03:59

I see you are predicting that Mark Webber will not be required by Jag next year Bjorn :) (Given Audi buy Minardi this year to race on their own account next year!) ;)

#34 Bjorn

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Posted 06 March 2003 - 04:28

Well spotted ;) Actually I had the 2002 season pack installed and then installed the Audi livery over the Minardi one. So Webber is there by accident really :p

#35 The Kanisteri

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Posted 07 March 2003 - 09:43

er...I want to use EA's F1 2002 as base but where I can find editor to open car liveries in F12002?

#36 pungzilla

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Posted 22 March 2003 - 21:57

Great thread Bjorn, and to all you guys, a thread like this makes me wanna be a member of ATLAS F1 BB!!!!! :clap:

#37 Makarias

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Posted 01 May 2003 - 00:24

Stolen fresh from the Jaguar drawing board:

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And the actual paint job is so crappy, that I had to add a nephew and some other nerds as distraction:
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#38 The Kanisteri

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Posted 01 May 2003 - 17:43

:lol: :lol: :lol: :clap:

nyt meni vappusimat väärään kurkkuun. :rotfl:

#39 JayWay

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Posted 06 May 2003 - 12:21

This contest is over. Give Mak the prize.

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#40 Beamer

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Posted 08 May 2003 - 15:47

:clap: Nice competition!

Here's my first attempt:
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inspirated by Stonefield's images......;)

#41 The Kanisteri

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Posted 24 May 2003 - 15:11

Team Saab - Wärtsilä. :lol:

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#42 Bjorn

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Posted 24 May 2003 - 15:44

Nice one guys.

The deadline has passed, and well there really aren't enough entries to have a vote or anything like that this time round. But well, this was experimental more than anything else so never mind. If there is any interest at all I might just start a new 'proper' competition shortly before the offseason, but I doubt it.

Thanks to those who submitted! :)