1991 Ferraris - official designations
#1
Posted 22 January 2003 - 13:25
I'm pretty sure that it continued into 1991 with F1-91 being the official designation of what is often referred to as Ferrari 642.
However, what was written on Ferrari 643's (1991 car from French Grand Prix on) chassis plate?
And did a car designated 642B ever exist?
Hrvoje
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#2
Posted 22 January 2003 - 13:34
#3
Posted 22 January 2003 - 14:28
#4
Posted 23 January 2003 - 08:43
#5
Posted 23 January 2003 - 10:24
Originally posted by mikedeering
Not the most accurate source in the world, but Autocourse 1991 states that Ferrari started the year with designation 642. A revised aero package was introduced at Imola, and the designation uprated to 642/2. The new 643 then appeared in France.
We can check accuracy easily: what does the 1990 Autocourse state as 1990 Ferrari designation?
If it says 641 and 641/2, those definitely aren't chassis plate designations.
Hrvoje
#6
Posted 23 January 2003 - 16:52
They should have sticked to the single-cylinder capacity designations.
The 639 to 643 designation used during the first years of the 3.5litre atmo formula, were Ferrari project numbers, but during that period, I never, ever saw any other designation for those cars.
#7
Posted 23 January 2003 - 17:13
Originally posted by Rainer Nyberg
Ferrari's doesn't really have a great record of designation consistency over the years, it would have been much easier if they really had adhered to some designation and then used variations of that.
They should have sticked to the single-cylinder capacity designations.
The 639 to 643 designation used during the first years of the 3.5litre atmo formula, were Ferrari project numbers, but during that period, I never, ever saw any other designation for those cars.
You think it matters to Ferrari what the cars are called? As long as they're red and sound fruity who's bothered? As long as there's a distinct chassis plate on the cars for scrutineering purposes it keeps the FIA happy... and does it matter to the Tifosi? (Particularly not to the New-fosi and the Schu-fosi!)
Hell, confusion over designations is endemic in Italian racing. Look at that Dallara-designed De Tomaso thing Frank Williams ran - nobody could decide definitively whether it was a 505 or a 308 even at the time! As for the plethora of Tecnos - I'm sure there were less model numbers than distinct chassis designs... and what abotu the Maserati 250F? Quite how all those completely different chassis/body combinations can all be the same model defeats me!
Things are different over there. Maybe it's a long tradition of befuddling officialdom so that real life can continue undisturbed ;)
pete
#8
Posted 23 January 2003 - 18:43
Originally posted by petefenelon
You think it matters to Ferrari what the cars are called? As long as they're red and sound fruity who's bothered? As long as there's a distinct chassis plate on the cars for scrutineering purposes it keeps the FIA happy... and does it matter to the Tifosi? (Particularly not to the New-fosi and the Schu-fosi!)
Hell, confusion over designations is endemic in Italian racing. Look at that Dallara-designed De Tomaso thing Frank Williams ran - nobody could decide definitively whether it was a 505 or a 308 even at the time! As for the plethora of Tecnos - I'm sure there were less model numbers than distinct chassis designs... and what abotu the Maserati 250F? Quite how all those completely different chassis/body combinations can all be the same model defeats me!
Things are different over there. Maybe it's a long tradition of befuddling officialdom so that real life can continue undisturbed ;)
pete
I understand all that and I agree but I will nevertheless be happy to know waht was written on chassis plates of 1991 Ferraris :-)
Hrvoje
#9
Posted 24 January 2003 - 08:45
Originally posted by Vrba
We can check accuracy easily: what does the 1990 Autocourse state as 1990 Ferrari designation?
If it says 641 and 641/2, those definitely aren't chassis plate designations.
Hrvoje
Autocourse 1990 lists the Ferrari as F1/90 (641). The official FIA review book for 1990 just lists it as a 641.
Actually, I've just remembered I have a copy of Ferrari Formula 1 which may provide more evidence! Will dig it out over the weekend and see what I can find.
#10
Posted 24 January 2003 - 10:42
Originally posted by mikedeering
Autocourse 1990 lists the Ferrari as F1/90 (641). The official FIA review book for 1990 just lists it as a 641.
Actually, I've just remembered I have a copy of Ferrari Formula 1 which may provide more evidence! Will dig it out over the weekend and see what I can find.
Great, thank you!
Hrvoje
#11
Posted 24 January 2003 - 14:43