Photo Quiz No 3B
#1
Posted 28 February 2003 - 22:19
Some of these have been mentioned in threads since Christmas or thereabouts...only just got round to posting them....
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(All photos from 'The GP Library')
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#2
Posted 28 February 2003 - 22:26
Clark getting away best, Surtees next, Siffert and Bandini in the flat 12 looking like they'll beat the third front row car off the line.
Now comes the tricky part... that doesn't look like JoBo in that third car, nor would I have expected him to be there... and naturally I can't look up any magazines or books for clues. And the car with what looks like Stewart's helmet in it (behind Siffert) doesn't really look all that BRM.
Is there a mix of F2 cars in there... or is that a skinny works Cooper over in the distance?
Looks like Silverstone, probably 1965 International Trophy.
Next one that really comes into my ambit is the Brabham being lashed onto the VW... Silvio Moser?
#3
Posted 28 February 2003 - 22:33
12... Baghetti winning at Syracuse?
#4
Posted 28 February 2003 - 22:40
No. 6 is a Gobron-Brillié.
#5
Posted 28 February 2003 - 22:41
No. 7 is Graham Hill at Graham Hill Bend!
#6
Posted 28 February 2003 - 22:42
#7
Posted 28 February 2003 - 22:52
Originally posted by fines
... No. 7 is Graham Hill at Graham Hill Bend!
....is it? Or rather, was it???
#8
Posted 28 February 2003 - 22:52
Not Ascari going into the harbour. Wrong year. It's Collins and Hawthorn in 1957
I'll be back
#9
Posted 28 February 2003 - 22:53
No. 21 Roy Lane on the 2-4-0 hill-climbing (1976/7?).
No. 19 Taffy von Trips.
No. 17 Nuvolari at Brno?
No. 12 Baghetti at Siracusa 1961.
No. 10 Carratsch in... an Ego?
No. 9 Montjuïc, of course, Brabham, Ickx etc.
No. 13 r-l Mercedes 1914GP, Alfa P3, ERA E-type (?) and B-type
No. 22 is Karl Kling, Buenos Aires 1951.
#10
Posted 28 February 2003 - 22:56
#11
Posted 28 February 2003 - 22:58
Now there's a story I always fondly remember: In the final qualifying session, Rosberg had troubles over troubles with his Williams/Honda, being stranded out on the circuit with only minutes remaining of the session, and down in 27th position and thus not yet qualified!
He got out in the spare car and had only time enough for one final lap - and returned 4th fastest time! Talk about guts and cool-headedness...
#12
Posted 28 February 2003 - 23:00
18 must be '84 (Mansell #12 Lotus, a #6 Williams, Senna in his Toleman). Npt so sure about the which race, Portugal?
#13
Posted 28 February 2003 - 23:01
#14
Posted 28 February 2003 - 23:03
Originally posted by fines
...No. 19 Taffy von Trips.
At the Nurburgring?
No. 17 Nuvolari at Brno?
Lovely shot of the Mantuan at work!
No. 22 is Karl Kling, Buenos Aires 1951.
Who would ever have thought of that? Great to see...
#15
Posted 28 February 2003 - 23:03
Originally posted by fines
Could No. 8 be Bob Anderson?
At the 1966 Dutch Grand Prix.
#16
Posted 28 February 2003 - 23:05
#17
Posted 28 February 2003 - 23:07
Too wet... maybe Aintree?Originally posted by Ray Bell
...No. 19 Taffy von Trips.
At the Nurburgring?
#18
Posted 28 February 2003 - 23:10
#19
Posted 28 February 2003 - 23:13
And why did I ignore that 'GB' plate on the VW? Gut feeling said Anderson, VW said European...
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#20
Posted 28 February 2003 - 23:14
Now thinking again about the Kling picture, look at that mechanic (?) to the right sporting Adolf H. hair and moustache - now would anyone in 1951 dare to look like that??????????????
Trouble is, it's got to be Kling, but I don't know of any other time he drove the W154/163, or is it a W165? Help?
#21
Posted 28 February 2003 - 23:19
Now No. 16 puzzles me no end - I know I've seen the picture before, but for the life of me...
#22
Posted 28 February 2003 - 23:19
#23
Posted 28 February 2003 - 23:22
Originally posted by fines
... perhaps the record setting Louis Rigolly?
No. 7 is Graham Hill at Graham Hill Bend!
In those days it was called Paddock Hill Bend, Michael
Silver City Trophy, 1960?
#24
Posted 28 February 2003 - 23:27
Originally posted by Vitesse2
In those days it was called Paddock Hill Bend, Michael ....
Errrrr - shome mishtake shurely....
DCN
#25
Posted 28 February 2003 - 23:27
Originally posted by Doug Nye
Has it got to be Kling?.....
Fangio?
#26
Posted 28 February 2003 - 23:36
Originally posted by Doug Nye
Errrrr - shome mishtake shurely....
Stirling's... but who are the Lotus drivers?
JB is in there in third... or is that Bruce? Would be if Jack is out of picture in the lead, maybe wity Mossy himself...
#27
Posted 28 February 2003 - 23:37
Car in the background is a Costin-Nathan - I think John Markey's was the only one entered.
#28
Posted 28 February 2003 - 23:40
Originally posted by Doug Nye
Errrrr - shome mishtake shurely....
DCN
Or even Bottom Bend ...
24 is Montlhery, not sure of the race though
#29
Posted 28 February 2003 - 23:54
The Cooper number 4 is indeed McLaren, Brabham having already departed. more remarkably, perhaps, Roy Salvadori, in Tommy Atkins Cooper has gone with him. And what is David Piper's Lotus 16 doing with the works 18s? The picture also proves that Sheldon is wrong about the numbers on the Ferraris. Phil Hill can be seen with number 42, not 40 as usually stated. THe Motor Sport report of the race indicated some confusion over who drove which Ferrari. They must have changed cars during practice and not bothered to change numbers.
The Lotus 18 drivers are Clark, Ireland and Surtees. Moss was still recovering from his Spa accident.
#30
Posted 01 March 2003 - 00:03
13 is at Donington - Starkey's Bridge in the background.
#31
Posted 01 March 2003 - 00:07
#32
Posted 01 March 2003 - 00:11
#33
Posted 01 March 2003 - 00:36
The nearest to the camera is the Multi Union, then a P3 Alfa (de Cadenet's car?), then the 1914 GP winning Mercedes with the ex-Nuvolari 8CM Maserati in the background.
Oh and Roy Lane looks to be rounding Pardon at Prescott.
Mark
#34
Posted 01 March 2003 - 00:52
Originally posted by Mark Ballard
Blimey over 30 posts in 2hours, you just can turn your back here for 1 second. I hope I'm not repeating anyone here but No 13 is Donington.
The nearest to the camera is the Multi Union, then a P3 Alfa (de Cadenet's car?), then the 1914 GP winning Mercedes with the ex-Nuvolari 8CM Maserati in the background.
Mark
Sorry Mark, I beat you to the Donington ID! Isn't that John Bolster driving the Alfa? And maybe DSJ in the ERA?
#35
Posted 01 March 2003 - 00:59
Ok, I'll try again.
No 5 is A Salmson competing on the 1923 Circuit des Route Pavees, going over a purpose built obsticle on the course. Is it a Morgan in the background?
And I am sure that fines is correct in spotting the Ego
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Posted 01 March 2003 - 01:18
#37
Posted 01 March 2003 - 01:20
No 20 is George Eyston's Type 35C Bugatti, No 16 is Louis Chiron's Type 35B, no 2 is de Courcelles in a Guyot Speciale (he was envolved in a fatal crash on lap 3). No 12 is Williams in one of the 4 litre Sunbeams (he led until the gearbox failed on lap 2) - No 8 is Louis Wagner in the other.
In Eyston's autobiography, he says that he was on the second row between the 2 Sunbeams and when the flag dropped, Wagner made the best start and shot into the lead. However, assuming this is the start (there are people on the track in the background), then this photo doesn't agree with his account. Discuss.
#38
Posted 01 March 2003 - 01:43
Now I know parts of Africa aren't quite up to speed with the rest of the civilised world, but I would have thought by the 80's the South African's could have come up with something better than pic 3 ;)
#39
Posted 01 March 2003 - 01:58
Originally posted by fines
Okay, I couldn't resist looking this one up, but No. 1 is Siracusa 1965.
So please, is it JoBo or a stand-in? And who's the car in the distant background?
Is it an F2 Matra or (more likely?) a Tecno? And the other car at the rear... with the hat that looks very Stewart?
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#40
Posted 01 March 2003 - 03:43
No. 23 I would hazard a guess at Goodwood chicane .
I WOULD SAY THAT WAS A REAL HAZARD THAT GOT SIFFERT get it FINES.
#41
Posted 01 March 2003 - 06:14
I grew bored again...WE LOVE IT WHEN YOUR BORED --------- DOUGLAS.
No 4--- Lola ? & Cooper monaco ( get a look at those logs in the corner they sure stop you
cutting the turn).
No 7 --- in full order Brabham
Ickx
Stewart
Hulme
Surtees
McLaren
Oliver
Beltoise
No 15 -- A nearly full field of F3 Coopers (guess) Ireland late 50,s
No 16 -- A --- S. MOSS look alike in the MERC.
No19 --- Von Trips he carried No4 at Aintree 1961 inthe wet & wore a Hawthorn type helmut.
Thanks eldougo.
#42
Posted 01 March 2003 - 07:07
Originally posted by fines
No. 23 I would hazard a guess at Goodwood chicane - Seppi Siffert in 1963???
1965, I rhink
#43
Posted 01 March 2003 - 07:33
Presumably a posed shot to celebrate the opening of Wheatie's circuit
And are we sure it's an 8CM Maserati, and not a 6C-34?
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Frank Le Gallais (LGS) ?
#44
Posted 01 March 2003 - 08:03
#45
Posted 01 March 2003 - 08:58
Oh dear! I was in doubt about the E-type, but never questioned my judgement about the other "ERA"... my only excuse is the same as Richard's, i.e. it was late, I was going to bed, just a quick look at TNF - and then that!Originally posted by Mark Ballard
Blimey over 30 posts in 2hours, you just can turn your back here for 1 second. I hope I'm not repeating anyone here but No 13 is Donington.
The nearest to the camera is the Multi Union, then a P3 Alfa (de Cadenet's car?), then the 1914 GP winning Mercedes with the ex-Nuvolari 8CM Maserati in the background.
Still, it was good to be one of the first to spot this thread, so I had a chance to identify a few. Most times when Doug posts his quizzies I'm in a position similar to Mark, i.e. the thread is going for a couple of hours already, and only the real difficult and obscure ones are left!
Keep this sort of thing going, Doug!
#46
Posted 01 March 2003 - 08:59
Originally posted by Mark Ballard
And I am sure that fines is correct in spotting the Ego
#47
Posted 01 March 2003 - 09:05
This is the starting grid, according to Sheldon:Originally posted by Ray Bell
So please, is it JoBo or a stand-in? And who's the car in the distant background?
Is it an F2 Matra or (more likely?) a Tecno? And the other car at the rear... with the hat that looks very Stewart?
#20 Bonnier - #16 Surtees - #18 Clark
#22 Bandini - #26 Siffert
#10 Hailwood - #14 Ireland - #24 Spence
etc.
So the F2 car is in fact a Parnell 25, and the wee Scott Ireland!
#48
Posted 01 March 2003 - 09:10
Yes, you're right!Originally posted by Roger Clark
1965, I rhink
... but not on this one, I reckon!Originally posted by Roger Clark
Could the driver of the Multi-Union be Hermann Lang?
#49
Posted 01 March 2003 - 09:14
I believe it's RodrÃguez, rather than Oliver - the rest was well spotted indeed!Originally posted by eldougo
No 7 --- in full order Brabham
Ickx
Stewart
Hulme
Surtees
McLaren
Oliver
Beltoise
#50
Posted 01 March 2003 - 09:22
Err, yes - unless you tell me otherwise, that is!Originally posted by Doug Nye
Has it got to be Kling?.....