Posted 12 March 2003 - 15:43
I was referred here by a friend of mine, and some of you as well
I am seeking information for a design project I am into, as it is my senior year, and I have commited myself to making a "new" suspension system for a Lotus 49.
I am looking for the following data, among other thing (anything you can tell me about the car, actually;))
1- Gravity centre position
2- Suspension dimensions (how far apart are they, drawings, etc)
You seem the people to ask about this, so...
Thanks in advance
Posted 12 March 2003 - 18:10
Posted 12 March 2003 - 18:20
Posted 12 March 2003 - 21:06
I have already gotten in touch with classic team lotus, but they still haven´t answered
Do you know if they take long to reply?? As I have sent them 2 mails but no reply...
Maybe they are on vacation.
That bit about the "Story of a Legend" book is particularly useful, because I was thinking about buying it just to see if it had that info (I´m getting desperate )
Posted 12 March 2003 - 21:07
These were concentric bars, a hollow one surrounding a solid one, with the bars splined together at one end and an arm operating on the inner bar at the working end.
You could also 'experiment' with the linkages to produce a rising rate as Chapman did on the 72.
Posted 13 March 2003 - 00:12
Posted 13 March 2003 - 13:27
Their e-mail is: firstname.lastname@example.org
They have our Lotus 49 there (in a bunch of sub-assemblies awaiting assembly) and have rebuilt several others (including both Rob Walker cars).
I know they are very busy, and might not have much time for your questions, but they are some of the nicest people I know in historic racing and I'm sure they will help you if possible.
Posted 13 March 2003 - 17:15
Big for all you guys.
I will contact them and try to get the book
My deepest thanks.
Posted 13 March 2003 - 19:22
Posted 14 March 2003 - 09:29
Originally posted by Roger Clark
...Whatever the reason, it didn't last long as the 72 had a more converntional geometry.
Didn't last long? What, three and a bit years....?????
Posted 14 March 2003 - 10:15
It would be instructive to compare the geometry with that of the Lotus 40. It had wide tyres, wider than the 33, before the 49 came along.
Posted 14 March 2003 - 12:52
Originally posted by Mark A
Just had a quick look through the book "Lotus 49 The Story of a Legend" and other than a unscaled drawing the technical info you require isn't there.
I'd recommend contacting Classic Team Lotus as they may be able to help.
The drawing you refer to is a copy of the original General Arrangement drawing, provided by Classic Team Lotus. I'm not sure what scale it is from memory but that probably won't help anyway as it was certainly somewhat reduced to fit into the inside cover of the book
I also have a different copy somewhere which was given to me by Maurice Phillippe's widow and which I used to make a full-scale replica of a Lotus 49 tub out of wood so that I could play Grand Prix Legends in the manner it should be played I'm sure I must have scaled it up to work out dimensions etc so I could have a look for you if there are specific measurements you need to know ;)
Classic Team Lotus still possess the original drawings for the car and components but I don't know how open they are about access to individuals, as clearly they like to control who makes parts etc for Lotus racing cars
Posted 14 March 2003 - 14:29
You cannot imagine how these dimensions are important for my project, and... I´m speechless
Thanks to all of you.
The dimensions I need are:
1- The length between the top brackets where the front suspension hangs on to (both top and bottom).
2- The gravity centre location (I don´t know if it is pictured on the general arrangement drawing).
3- The diameter of the tyres and their width.
4- The distance from the wheel hub to the anchoring points on the chassis.
Anyone who can help out with this, please email me at email@example.com
Thanks once again, as this really is important for me
P.S. Mail me Michael Oliver!!!
Posted 14 March 2003 - 20:04
Originally posted by Michael Oliver
...to make a full-scale replica of a Lotus 49 tub out of wood so that I could play Grand Prix Legends in the manner it should be played...
Euan told me about this once over a beer - I have to admit I was never entirely sure whether to believe him or not!
Now that's dedication for you, guys!
A slightly off-the wall suggestion maybe, but does anyone have a view on how accurate a Tamiya 1/12th scale kit is - that would at least give a good, if not cheap, feel for the general arrangement of things for someone who perhaps has not seen the real thing. I think my battered 49B is still in my parents sideboard... but I don't think I compared it too closely with photographs to just how realistic it was.
Posted 14 March 2003 - 20:57
The front uprights would have been easier, at least...
Posted 14 March 2003 - 23:24
Originally posted by Michael Oliver
I also have a different copy somewhere which was given to me by Maurice Phillippe's widow and which I used to make a full-scale replica of a Lotus 49 tub out of wood so that I could play Grand Prix Legends in the manner it should be played
These people will sell you a nice one, although I suspect it falls into the 'if you have to ask the price you can't afford it' category.......
Posted 15 March 2003 - 14:46
When is your Lotus 72 book due for release??