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#1 Makarias

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Posted 17 March 2003 - 22:37

Results of the Australia voting

1)  Kimi Räikkönen	 (28*2 + 12*1 = 68) [b]10 points[/b] 

2)  David Coulthard	 (6*2 + 25*1 = 37)  [b]8 points[/b]

3)  Juan Pablo Montoya  (7*2 + 16*1 = 30)  [b]6 points[/b]

4)  H-H Frentzen		(7*2 + 12*1 = 26)  [b]5 points[/b]

5)  Fernando Alonso	 (0*2 + 17*1 = 17)  [b]4 points[/b]

6)  Michael Schumacher	(0*2 + 9*1 = 9)  [b]3 points[/b]

7)  Mark Webber		   (0*2 + 2*1 = 2)  [b]2 points[/b]

8)  Justin Wilson		 (0*2 + 1*1 = 1)  [b]1 point[/b]

9)  Jenson Button		 (0*2 + 1*1 = 1)
Places 8-9 decided by race result.
NOTE: This tie-breaking rule has changed since last season: reversed race result order now applies as tie-breaker, which means that Wilson (DNF in race) beats Button (10th in race).

The individual votes can be found at the voting thread:
http://www.atlasf1.c...&threadid=54306

Votes that didn't comply with the 2-1-1 points system:
karlth, fifi: No second RU; votes still counted
james27w: No RU's at all; Top vote given one single point
NOTE: New policy here too. I'll now accept votes with at least two drivers voted for and count them as stated in the post, but if you can only come up with one name, I'll give the driver one single point, making the vote count as a RU vote for tie-breaking purposes.

Results of Rate the Race

[B]Quality of racing: 7.89 average[/B]

Vote breakdown:

10  3 ###

9  12 ############

8  16 ################

7  11 ###########

6   3 ###

5   2 ## 

4   0 

3   0 

2   0 

1   0

0   0



[B]Satisfaction with results: 6.91 average[/B]

Vote breakdown:

10  3 ###

9   2 ##

8  15 ###############

7  12 ############

6   7 #######

5   2 ##

4   3 ###

3   0 

2   1 #

1   0 

0   1 #
In both respects, this race was rated quite highly. Of the 2002 races, the British GP was rated higher in both respects, and the Monaco GP had a more satisfying result.

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#2 Nikolas Garth

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Posted 17 March 2003 - 22:45

Mak,
Why do the runners up get 1 point each?

I would have thought it would make more sense to have something like this:

Top Driver: 3 points
2nd Driver: 2 points
3rd Driver : 1 point

#3 scheivlak

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Posted 17 March 2003 - 22:55

Originally posted by Makarias
Results of the Australia voting


1)  Kimi Räikkönen	 (28*2 + 12*1 = 68) [b]10 points[/b] 

2)  David Coulthard	 (6*2 + 25*1 = 37)  [b]8 points[/b]

3)  Juan Pablo Montoya  (7*2 + 16*1 = 30)  [b]6 points[/b]

4)  H-H Frentzen		(7*2 + 12*1 = 26)  [b]5 points[/b]

5)  Fernando Alonso	 (0*2 + 17*1 = 17)  [b]4 points[/b]

6)  Michael Schumacher	(0*2 + 9*1 = 9)  [b]3 points[/b]

7)  Mark Webber		   (0*2 + 2*1 = 2)  [b]2 points[/b]

8)  Justin Wilson		 (0*2 + 1*1 = 1)  [b]1 point[/b]

9)  Jenson Button		 (0*2 + 1*1 = 1)
Places 8-9 decided by race result.


Hmmmmm.... has Minardi found another loophole? :lol:

#4 Makarias

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Posted 18 March 2003 - 00:16

Nik: It's always been like that! MrA made up the basic rules at the start of the 1999 season, and there hasn't been any particular reason to change that since then. Perhaps MrA is best suited to answer your question... :)

...Although I have been thinking a bit about alternative systems lately, since the smallness of the grid combined with the new F1 points system might make it harder to get eight drivers voted for in each race.

scheivlak, the reasoning behind the new tie-breaker rule is that it usually takes a whole lot more for the drivers at the bottom end of the grid (and DNF-ers) to catch people's attention than for top runners, so in a tie-breaker they get the nod.

#5 gerry nassar

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Posted 18 March 2003 - 00:59

Thanks Mak! :up:

Although I cantunderstand how the quality of racing was graded lower than the British GP last year - it may have been wet and reasonably exciting but the racing was nowhere near as good as Melb 2003. I guess Satisfaction is subjective so a higher score couldnt be expected.

#6 Nikolas Garth

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Posted 18 March 2003 - 01:37

Originally posted by Makarias
Nik: It's always been like that! MrA made up the basic rules at the start of the 1999 season, and there hasn't been any particular reason to change that since then. Perhaps MrA is best suited to answer your question... :)

...Although I have been thinking a bit about alternative systems lately, since the smallness of the grid combined with the new F1 points system might make it harder to get eight drivers voted for in each race.

I guess one could argue the merits of various scoring systems till the cows come home, but it does seem odd to me that the current system rewards the top driver(which is fair enough), but doesn't seek to differentiate in points, between the 2nd best performance and third best performance.

I wouldn't mind seeing a 5 driver nomination after each race, with scoring being, 5,4,3,2,1.

#7 Gudrun

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Posted 18 March 2003 - 05:58

Originally posted by scheivlak


Hmmmmm.... has Minardi found another loophole? :lol:

:blush:
I thought MSch was in 4th place.
:blush: