Jump to content


Photo

Gran Premio di Roma


  • Please log in to reply
5 replies to this topic

#1 Udo K.

Udo K.
  • Member

  • 655 posts
  • Joined: September 01

Posted 18 March 2003 - 10:03

I have some trouble in finding exact data and results of two of the Rome GPs.
There was the 11th GP roma in 1950, no race in 1951 and 1952. In 1953 there should have been
the 12th edition, but I have no results ( I believe this to have been a sports car race).
In 1954 there was the 13th GP Roma at Castelfusano for F1 won by Marimon. Has there been a sports car race at that 1954 meeting as well?
I have nothing for 1955. In 1956 the "Six Hours of Castelfusano" took place as a sports and GT event. Was this race the 14th and last Rome GP?

Thanks for help!

Advertisement

#2 Vitesse2

Vitesse2
  • Administrator

  • 41,776 posts
  • Joined: April 01

Posted 18 March 2003 - 15:13

The 12th Rome GP was on June 10th 1951, Udo. An F2 race at Caracalla, won by Mario Raffaeli in a Scuderia Marzotto Ferrari. It's in Sheldon ..... :)

#3 Udo K.

Udo K.
  • Member

  • 655 posts
  • Joined: September 01

Posted 18 March 2003 - 15:30

Originally posted by Vitesse2
The 12th Rome GP was on June 10th 1951, Udo. An F2 race at Caracalla, won by Mario Raffaeli in a Scuderia Marzotto Ferrari. It's in Sheldon ..... :)


..oops, thanks Vitesse, I'm getting old, should have seen it. :blush:

#4 alessandro silva

alessandro silva
  • Member

  • 758 posts
  • Joined: August 00

Posted 18 March 2003 - 20:26

XII 10/6/1951 Caracalla F2 1. Raffaelli Ferrari, 2. Bianchetti Ferrari, 3. G. Marzotto, Ferrari
Xiii, 6/6/1954, Castelfusano, F1, 1. Marimon, 2. Schell, 3. Mantovani, all on Maserati
Xiv 20-21/10/1956, Sp. GT, Tur. (7 races 1hr each) 1. Behra Maserati 200S, 2. Schell id. 3, Mussp OSCA 1500
XV 19/5/1963, Vallelunga, F1, 1. Bob Anderson Lola, 2. de Beaufort Porsche, 3. Raby Gilby-BRM
XVI 20/9/1964, Vallelunga, F2, 1. Schlesser Brabham 2. Heghbourne Cooper, 3. Beckwith Cooper
XVII 16/5/1965, Vallelunga, F2, 1. Attwood, Lola, 2. Maggs Lola. 3. Rindt, Brabham

Etc,,

#5 Leo

Leo
  • Member

  • 253 posts
  • Joined: December 99

Posted 19 March 2003 - 14:00

I have this:


11-06-1950 XI Gran Premio di Roma   Caracalla	 Italy  3440  Formula 2 

10-06-1951 XII Gran Premio di Roma  Caracalla	 Italy  3440  Formula 2 

06-05-1954 XIII Gran Premio di Roma Castel Fusano Italy  6590  Non-championship F1 event 

??-??-1955 XIV Gran Premio di Roma  Castel Fusano Italy  6590  Sportscars 

19-05-1963 XV Gran Premio di Roma   Vallelunga	Italy  1776  Non-championship F1 event 

The Rome GP continued as F2 / F3000 event at Vallelunga

Some dates conflict with Allessandro's list, and I'm not very sure I got the right ones :blush:

#6 Oneandhalf

Oneandhalf
  • Member

  • 40 posts
  • Joined: November 15

Posted 08 September 2016 - 09:57

Gran Premio di Roma 10.06.1951:

 

I.  The entry list according Corriere dello Sport 09.06.1952:

№ 32 Franco Cortese, Ferrari 166

№ 34 Giannino Marzotto, Ferrari 166

№ 36 Mario Raffaelli, Ferrari 166

№ 42 Giampiero Bianchetti, Ferrari 166SC

№ 44 Giacomo Palmieri, Ferrari 166

№ 46 Bertolini, Ferrari 166

№ 48 Francesco Nissotti, OSCA MT4-1112

 

II. So, according to Sheldon’s book, Stefan Örnerdal’s site:

Franco Cortese, Ferrari 166, Scuderia Ambrosiana

Giannino Marzotto, Ferrari 166, Scuderia Ferrari

Mario Raffaelli, Ferrari 166, Scuderia Marzotto

Giampiero Bianchetti, Ferrari 166SC, Scuderia Guastalla

Carlo Pesci, Ferrari 166, Scuderia Guastalla

Emilio Romano, Ferrari 166MM, E. Romano

Francesco Nissotti, Ferrari 166, F. Nissotti

 

III. Race result (Corriere dello Sport 12.06.1951):

1. Raffaelli

6. Schwelm

7. Vando

8. Pinzero

9. Lorenzetti

Retired: Stopponi, Ferrari

 

IV. Race result (Sheldon, Formula2.net, Autocorse'51):

1. Raffaelli

6. Schwelm

7. Pinzero

8. Lorenzetti 

 

So, I've got some question about 1951 race:

1. Who are right about seventh place at finish ( Vando at CdS or Pinzero at another sources)?

2. Who was Stopponi (miss in entry list, but retired in race)?

3. What about Emilio Romano (absent in entry list of CdS, present in Sheldon)? Sheldon wrote about Ferrari 166 MM (i.e. Mille Miglia). There was Ferrari 166 MM on start photo.

4. What about Giacomo Palmieri and Bertolini (both - Ferrari 166, present at entry list of CdS but absent at Sheldon's book and no infomation about classification or retirements)?

5. What about Carlo Pesci (absent in entry list and race result of CdS)?

6. What about Francesco Nissotti (entry with Ferrari in Sheldon's book and OSCA in CdS and Orsini's OSCA book)?

7. Sheldon wrote Scuderia Ferrari lent a car to Giannino Mardzotto, but Corriere dello Sport gives Scuderia Valdagno (?!). There is no info at Orsini/Zagari book "Ferrari 1947-1953"