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#201 Barry Boor

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Posted 14 March 2010 - 10:30

Given that there are very few christian names that begin with the letter U, I was amused by a registration plate I saw on the way to Roger's last Friday.

It was on a black Porsche 4x4 and it read P1UKE. Was this person 'avin' a larf?

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#202 David McKinney

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Posted 14 March 2010 - 11:42

Being a German car, it might have been registered in the name of Ulrich Karl Eisenberger

#203 kayemod

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Posted 14 March 2010 - 14:30

Given that there are very few christian names that begin with the letter U, I was amused by a registration plate I saw on the way to Roger's last Friday.

It was on a black Porsche 4x4 and it read P1UKE. Was this person 'avin' a larf?


Possibly one of George Formby's descendants.


#204 Barry Boor

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Posted 14 March 2010 - 18:48

Oh yes, I also saw BEN50N on Friday, too.

#205 elansprint72

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Posted 14 March 2010 - 22:18

Local ones have included:
A5TON on.... an ASTON
AUD1 on..... an AUDI
BFA5T on..... a Pantera

......but the best one, owned bay an optician (at one time on a 911 but something rather more dreary now):

EYE2C

#206 peebo

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 16:44

Seen on several occasions in London parked side-by-side in a driveway

2B and NOT2B

presumably thesps

#207 VAR1016

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 21:56

In 1964, I went with my father in our three and a half litre Bentley to the Rolls-Royce diamond jubilee celebration at Goodwood.

There were around 3000 R-R and Bentley cars there. Walking around I found a Rolls-Royce Phantom I registered P1.

There was a note on the windscreen that read "Found you at last!" It was signed P2.

Other bits: I once had 77 DUO on a thirty-quid Ford Zephyr 6; wish I had it now. About twenty years ago I met Valentine Lindsay; he had a D-type Jaguar registered V12. Pity it wasn't the XJ13!

Saw a 3-litre Alvis in Park Lane once: SHY 1; I often wonder if ALV1S was ever issued.

When I was still in England and had a few pounds to hand I asked DVLA if they would sell me FUL6A for my Lancia Fulvia. They said they only sold number plates that were of interest - or words to that effect.

Philistines.

#208 VAR1016

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 21:57

Seen on several occasions in London parked side-by-side in a driveway

2B and NOT2B

presumably thesps


Presumably rich thesps!

#209 David McKinney

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 22:52

About twenty years ago I met Valentine Lindsay; he had a D-type Jaguar registered V12

V12 is the name of Val's business


#210 kayemod

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 16:14

Well, the registration itself is nothing special I grant you, but what's the betting he used to be a BMW owner?

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Hasty edit, no offence intended to any TNF BMW drivers of course, but I'm sure you know what I meant.

Edited by kayemod, 16 March 2010 - 17:52.


#211 Giraffe

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 19:09

Well, the registration itself is nothing special I grant you, but what's the betting he used to be a BMW owner?

Hasty edit, no offence intended to any TNF BMW drivers of course, but I'm sure you know what I meant.


And yet that was far from the case in days of yore. In 1973, my mother had a BMW 1602 (in orange!) and BMWs were by no means a common sight on UK roads at that time. A neighbour of ours co-incidentally had a 2002 in the same colour as my mother, but with the registration "1 ARM".


#212 David McKinney

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 19:36

A neighbour of ours co-incidentally had a 2002 in the same colour as my mother

So what colour was she?

#213 Giraffe

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 19:48

So what colour was she?


I suspect a similar colour to your mother David, having met you. ;)


#214 mikeC

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 20:41

I was interested to see that the registration number TL 5 is on the market.
This was Tiny Lewis' number which appeared on Standard 10 and Triumph Herald (notably the 1959 Alpine car and the 1960 RAC car) and presumably on the Rootes cars he rallied subsequently; does this mean he has recently died - I haven't heard anything... :cry:

#215 David McKinney

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 21:54

He was still alive when I spoke to him about a month ago

#216 D-Type

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 21:57

He was still alive when I spoke to him about a month ago

Are you sure about that :wave:

#217 VAR1016

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 21:58

V12 is the name of Val's business


Good name: I wonder if "SK1NT" is available too!!

If you see Val, ask him if he ever picks up the bass guitar these days...

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#218 Giraffe

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 22:24

Are you sure about that :wave:


Why? Wasn't he? :cat:

#219 Barry Boor

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 23:19

SK1NT ? Not in the U.K.

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#220 D-Type

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 23:26

Why? Wasn't he? :cat:

David says he spoke to him (as opposed to with him). So, did he get a reply?  ;)

#221 David McKinney

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 06:54

I tend to regard "spoke with" as an Americanism on a par with "visit with"
I'm sure there was a voice at the other end of the phone-line...

#222 Giraffe

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 08:46

I'm sure there was a voice at the other end of the phone-line...


But dd you check for a pulse..........................??? ;)


#223 Marticelli

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 17:28

Six pages into this interesting topic, which attracts the anoraks amongst us, I see no reference yet to Noel Woodall's definitive tome on the subject, 'Car Numbers 1904-1974'. I bought my copy years ago, and despite being doubtful reading at bedtime, it has proved to be one of the most consulted books in my library, as it has a wealth of information about 'cherished numbers' as they seem now to be called...

But actually ever since the dawn of motoring, good numbers have been cherished and handed down from generation to generation, and no doubt will continue to do so. From early days, some extraordinary efforts have been expended to secure a particular number. Vauxhall famously registered most of their pre first war works cars in Lanarkshire to avail themselves of the single letter 'V' registration on offer, although how exactly they did this is open to conjecture. Likewise many MGs bear 'MG' registrations by virtue of registering them in London between March 1930 and March 1949 - info courtesy of Mr Woodall naturally! And the many Jaguars with a 'JAG' number come via Ayrshire County Council, and were originally issued between January 1956 to August 1967

As well as cherished numbers, you can see from the above examples that Noel Woodall's book has the dates for every number plate series issued in the UK up until 1974. It has only recently been surpassed in this respect by another bedtime favourite, 'A History of Motor Vehicle Registration in the United Kingdom' by L H Newall. Unlike Woodall's tome this comparatively small book makes no mention of actual cherished numbers but gives information about many aspects of the early registration practices around the UK and is useful for researching such matters. Also valuable in this respect is an even slimmer volume by Philip Riden, 'How to Trace the History of Your Car'. Only Newall's book is currently in print but copies of the others can still be found, and will immediately be of value. I am of course not related to any of the authors of the abovementioned works, merely a satisfied anorak!! Happy to provide more details on request, should other anoraks require!!

Martin Shelley

#224 Barry Boor

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 20:48

I too am a tad uncomfortable with the 'cherished' word. My wife is cherished, my car registration is just enjoyed.

#225 Giraffe

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 21:51

I too am a tad uncomfortable with the 'cherished' word. My wife is cherished, my car registration is just enjoyed.


In my copy of the Collins Gem English Thesaurus, the opening definition of 'cherish' is 'cling to'................ :blush:


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Posted 17 March 2010 - 21:59

Six pages into this interesting topic, which attracts the anoraks amongst us, I see no reference yet to Noel Woodall's definitive tome on the subject, 'Car Numbers 1904-1974'. I bought my copy years ago, and despite being doubtful reading at bedtime, it has proved to be one of the most consulted books in my library, as it has a wealth of information about 'cherished numbers' as they seem now to be called...

Martin Shelley

Curiously enough Martin, I wasn't aware of this book until only last night, when one of my MG Car Club colleagues brought it along to our "Nattter". To then see it mentioned on TNF within 24 hours is one of those uncanny coincidences!

Not having a wife to cherish, I do have an affectionate relationship with my cars, but not really my regstration plates. Having said that I am quite fond of 820 GOF on my A40...

Rob :wave:


#227 Marticelli

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 00:20

Rob, I am a huge believer in serendipity, and this is just another example of it happening to me... I have reread the notes in Woodall's book tonight and realised that something I said earlier wasn't strictly correct, so here's the corrected story.

On three letter registrations, he doesn't quote first and last issue dates, just the first issue date and then the first issue date for a reversed registration. So GOF numbers were first issued in Birmingham in May 1946, and then the reversed sequence like yours with numbers first then letters were issued first in June 1962, which is presumably just before your A40 was born!! For a popular place like Birmingham, the issue rate was usually high, so a particular three letter sequence would only last for a few months, as there were only 999 vehicles issued with each such sequence each time.

On this principle, the dates I quoted for JAG and MG numbers are for the first issue of a normal registration and then first issue of a reversed number. Hope that is clear, as I hate getting things wrong, being a self-confessed anorak.

Martin

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 14:14

It's often suggested that the MG and UMG numbers - which were issued by Middlesex CC, not LCC - on many early MGs come from a tie-up with University Motors in London, who were MG agents. However, it seems that quite a lot of these cars have been re-registered with transferred numbers, as University actually registered very few - and none below MG400. And the only extant car bearing a low MG number - MG113 - that could have received the plate new is actually a Frazer Nash!

http://www.mgcars.or...ws/news158.html

#229 Marticelli

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 10:43

In my copy of the Collins Gem English Thesaurus, the opening definition of 'cherish' is 'cling to'................ :blush:


I guess that was the whole point of the concept of 'Cherished Numbers' which has almost been lost in the mists of time. The idea stemmed from the earliest days when someone bought a new car and was issued with a nice early number. When the car was sold on, the owner cherished the early number and wished to 'cling on' to it and use it for his new car. It was not a scheme devised to facilitate the buying and selling of nice numbers!!

Very few of the original cherished numbers passed down using this scheme remain as intended in the ownership of the original recipient or his or her heirs and successors. However my own sister has a number issued new in 1934 to her father in law whose initials happened top be the same as the number allied to a two digit number. Naturally he retained this cherished number and until he died, it was the only number he owned as every one of his cars bore it. His son and daughter in law inherited it and they likewise have used it exclusively ever since.

Martin


#230 John Ginger

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 15:11

Six pages into this interesting topic, which attracts the anoraks amongst us, I see no reference yet to Noel Woodall's definitive tome on the subject, 'Car Numbers 1904-1974'.



I'd forgotten all about this book until I uncovered my copy in the garage a couple of days before reading this post, obviously I too was a right anorak in those days :)

#231 Marticelli

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 21:02

I think actually Noel Woodall was the right anorak, John! Just imagine what it took to compile all that info, and then publish it, well before the days of desk top publishing. It would be a proof reader's nightmare!!

Martin

#232 Allan Lupton

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 21:38

Don't know who wrote it, but someone I met about 20 years ago was clutching a book which claimed to tell him all the retained or unusual numbers and put a date on them.
Since one of those was that on a car that I owned which had been in a museum, I wasn't too impressed that the date quoted for the number was the date that the museum claimed for the car which was a good six years earlier that the true date of issue.
Could have been the Woodall book if he really does say that MG registrations were London, rather than Middlesex. Middlesex CC existed (and licenced vehicles) until 1965 and apart from MG registrations, its other claim to fame was that it was the first to use the reversed layout of digits and letters.


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Posted 19 March 2010 - 22:03

Allan, I think that could have been the 1969 version of Woodall's book, which was entitled "Car Numbers: Who Owns It? Where's It From? When Was It Issued?"

The earliest ones, from the 1960s, were called "Car Number Galaxy": two paperbacks which were later combined into a 1-volume hardback (which I have a copy of somewhere :blush: ) The 1969 one was followed by "5000 Cherished Plates" in 1972 and then the 1904-74 volume. There were several updates, the last I believe in 1990.

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 22:10

Given that there are very few christian names that begin with the letter U, I was amused by a registration plate I saw on the way to Roger's last Friday.

It was on a black Porsche 4x4 and it read P1UKE. Was this person 'avin' a larf?

I saw P5 UKE in Bath today! Not far from the wonderfully named music shop called Duck, Son and Pinker, which always has a ukelele in the window.

#235 Giraffe

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 22:14

a ukelele in the window.


I feel a song coming on........ :|

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 03:53

...My 430......drive.2009


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Cheers Doug.

Edited by eldougo, 22 March 2010 - 10:38.


#237 Allan Lupton

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 07:22

I feel a song coming on........ :|

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Yes, but although Formby is always said to have played a ukulele what it was, as the picture shows, is the hybrid instrument known as a banjelele.

This is a ukelele:
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Which Tyler (leader of the pedants' revolt!)

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#238 Giraffe

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 08:48

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Is that your daily drive in the background, Doug? :D


#239 eldougo

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 08:56

YES....... :wave:

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#240 Gary C

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 09:47

The number plate I'd love to own, I've already enquired at DVLA and they won't re-issue it is.....................R 5777. And no, it's not a 'word'.

#241 Marticelli

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 10:48

George Fornby not only played the ukelele (a Prius is still a car!!) but he also had a penchant for cherished numbers. He famously owned an International Norton which was HVU 111 and he apparently always liked to have registrations with double or triple identical numbers.

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 11:06

The number plate I'd love to own, I've already enquired at DVLA and they won't re-issue it is.....................R 5777. And no, it's not a 'word'.


Yes, meanies aren't they?

As for George Formby:

"Pyjamas lying side by side,
Ladies dresses I have spied,
I've often seen what goes inside,
When I'm cleaning windows."




#243 kayemod

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 11:26

As for George Formby:


Some time ago, an elderly neighbour was telling me that she'd just bought "One of those George Formby grills". I didn't ask her if it played ukelele music as it cooked.

#244 Giraffe

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 15:06

Prior to his untimely death in March 1961, as a very small boy whilst visiting my Aunty Lydia in Lytham St. Annes, I was taken down the road to meet George Formby who was sitting in a porch in a wheelchair with a blanket over his lap taking the sun as he recovered from one of his many heart attacks. I remember thinking how he looked very different to the chap on the motorbike in his films.

http://forums.autosp...w...t&p=4215853

His looky-likey pictured recently on the Race Retro thread by Pete Taylor.

Edited by Giraffe, 20 March 2010 - 15:10.


#245 Giraffe

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Posted 28 March 2010 - 21:42

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You don't really need it with an Audi R8 (or a BRDC membership)..........

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You orrite? I'm orrite!

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#246 David McKinney

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Posted 28 March 2010 - 22:16

Andrew Marriott, presumably?

#247 ensign14

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Posted 28 March 2010 - 22:21

As well as cherished numbers, you can see from the above examples that Noel Woodall's book has the dates for every number plate series issued in the UK up until 1974. It has only recently been surpassed in this respect by another bedtime favourite, 'A History of Motor Vehicle Registration in the United Kingdom' by L H Newall. Unlike Woodall's tome this comparatively small book makes no mention of actual cherished numbers but gives information about many aspects of the early registration practices around the UK and is useful for researching such matters. Also valuable in this respect is an even slimmer volume by Philip Riden, 'How to Trace the History of Your Car'. Only Newall's book is currently in print but copies of the others can still be found, and will immediately be of value. I am of course not related to any of the authors of the abovementioned works, merely a satisfied anorak!! Happy to provide more details on request, should other anoraks require!!

Sadly Les Newall died a couple of years ago, just before his book came out. He also wrote the Europlate series that deal with registration plates of the world. Four editions IIRC.

#248 Giraffe

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Posted 03 April 2010 - 18:45

Silverstone today.......

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....was pulling a trailer with.....

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:confused: (The vehicle journeybook on the dash showed it was from Bourne).

A couple of cool plates.....

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#249 rhegra

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Posted 12 April 2010 - 08:09

not bad too:
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#250 Giraffe

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Posted 08 May 2010 - 19:40

Spiderman or website designer?

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