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#1 Pedro 917

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Posted 10 July 2003 - 22:03

It was 32 years ago today...........
In loving memory of Pedro Rodriguez, a true racer !!

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Still miss you.......

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Victory at Spa, 1970

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#2 Ray Bell

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Posted 10 July 2003 - 22:53

That's longer than he lived, right?

I remember getting that news, couldn't understand how it came about until the thread here about his death last year.

Even sadder... Ricardo's been gone almost twice as long as he lived...

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They both, however, made their presence felt while they were with us.

#3 Jeremy Jackson

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Posted 10 July 2003 - 23:17

Still miss you.......



Couldn't agree more.

Still remember hearing the news on the radio as a 13 year-old... and bursting into tears.

#4 Jack-the-Lad

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Posted 10 July 2003 - 23:38

The first race I ever saw, Sebring 1963, was the only race I ever saw the brothers drive in. They were both brilliant. They are truly missed.

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#5 BorderReiver

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Posted 11 July 2003 - 00:00

I never saw Pedro race, hell I never saw a lot of people race, but for me his name, and the stories that go with it, define the term "Racing Driver".

We are incredibly lucky that our sport has been graced by shooting stars of his brightness and calibre.

I'm sure where ever they are Pedro and Riccardo are racing up a storm. . . .

#6 Bernd

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Posted 11 July 2003 - 00:39

I wish there was a photo of him on Amons lawn in New Zealand, playing cricket. Batting in a baseball stance :)

A fine Racer whom was always, perhaps unfairly marked as not as good as his late brother.

#7 Reyna

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Posted 11 July 2003 - 01:10

1.963 Daytona 3Hrs. Pedro wins with thw Ferrari 250 GTO

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#8 Reyna

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Posted 11 July 2003 - 01:29

1.971 Spanish GP with the BRM P160

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#9 cjpani

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Posted 11 July 2003 - 02:53

:cry:

his most memorable race, IMO

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You always remember, Luc :)

Pedro, never forgotten.

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#10 Ray Bell

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Posted 11 July 2003 - 03:11

Nice, Carlos... but was it as good as his drive at the Osterreichring?

#11 mickj

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Posted 11 July 2003 - 06:15

Gone but not forgotten.

#12 Pedro 917

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Posted 11 July 2003 - 06:37

Originally posted by Bernd :

I wish there was a photo of him on Amons lawn in New Zealand, playing cricket. Batting in a baseball stance



I have this picture of the Grand Prix drivers' Cricket Team in 1968. However, I don't know where it was taken. Surely some TNF members will know.......

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Reyna : the picture at Daytona was his first race after Ricardo's death and his first victory there.
Jack-the-Lad : I suppose it was Sebring 1962 as Ricardo died on November 1st 1962.

#13 rolando

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Posted 11 July 2003 - 14:27

Posted by Ray

Nice, Carlos... but was it as good as his drive at the Osterreichring?



In my opinion it was a better drive at the Osterreichring, but I agree with Carlos, that Brands Hatch victory is his more memorable race. :)

Pedro Rodríguez a true "matador" in a racing car :smoking:

We mexican are still waiting for a driver with Pedro's talent, but courage and will to win aren't a very common virtues...

#14 Keir

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Posted 11 July 2003 - 20:10

Very nice stuff everyone.

I do miss Pedro, he was one of a kind!!

"Why doesn't someone tell Pedro it's raining?"

I love that line!!

#15 Schummy

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Posted 11 July 2003 - 20:53

Pedro :up: he is racers heaven driving a 917 around an oval :eek: against Greg Moore.

PR brings me a little thought: in those days, a driver could express his talent not only in F1 but in other kind of racing cars as well. If he had come at this world 30 years later we would be robbed of Pedro's finest talents.

I wonder what actual F1 drivers could be a real talent in GT or prototipe if there was any decent series just as around 1970.

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Posted 11 July 2003 - 21:39

Nice, Carlos... but was it as good as his drive at the Osterreichring?


I have been looking for some information or review about that race. Does someone here have something ?

He was reaching his peek in motorsports just when he went away :(

#17 RSNS

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Posted 11 July 2003 - 21:41

Nice hommage. Pedro and Seppi will be in everybody's memories for a long time.

#18 RSNS

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Posted 11 July 2003 - 21:43

Originally posted by Schummy
Pedro :up: he is racers heaven driving a 917 around an oval :eek: against Greg Moore.


I wonder what actual F1 drivers could be a real talent in GT or prototipe if there was any decent series just as around 1970.


Michael Schumacher was quite outstanding in Prototypes. His lap times never varied, independently of traffic. That is the hallmark of a good prototype driver.

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#19 Ray Bell

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Posted 11 July 2003 - 21:44

It was nicely covered in Motor Sport some time in the past two years or so...

Strange how, somehow, we can only see in retrospect how significant the drive really was.

The only time I saw Pedro drive he was in a BRM... it must have been in poor shape, it was a lacklustre drive. Pity. A year later he might have given Rindt a stir in the rain?

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#20 Pedro 917

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 00:31

35 years ago today, time flies.....

A salute to you too Pedro!

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#21 Lemans

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 03:14

pedro 917

Pedro I rate as the finest sportest car driver of all time and a master of SPA and the rain. He is missed. :cry:

#22 Bruno

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 06:37

thank Pedro 917. . . i' remerber Pedro.

Monaco 1971: saturday qualifs, and Andretti/312 B

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Monaco 1971 after the GP

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#23 cjpani

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 19:04

good to see that it is still remembered. 35 years ago today. :cry:

cj

#24 David M. Kane

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 19:07

My favorite portait in my office is a cutaway of the P153 next to great shoot of Pedro in his famous helmet...a wonderful head shot that captures his intensity.

#25 Twin Window

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 21:18

Thirty-five years ago today. It just doesn't seem possible it was that long ago...

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A genuine hero.

#26 David M. Kane

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 21:22

Twin Widdow:

Excellent portrait!

#27 Twin Window

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 21:33

Taken by Charlie Briscoe-Knight!

#28 BRM MICK2

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 21:49

Never forgotten



Pedro's cars at Goodwood 2006



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Regards

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#29 Pedro 917

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 21:51

Thanks Twinny! Great shot, Oulton Park 1971 I guess?

#30 BRM MICK2

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 21:54

Other side of car Number 53 showing Pedros race credits for that vehicle


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#31 Pedro 917

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 22:04

One of my favourite pictures from this year's Festival:

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Hi Mick, thanks for the pictures! I had a great chat with the owner of the Huffaker MG.
We must have missed each other by seconds...

#32 Twin Window

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 22:10

Originally posted by Pedro 917

Great shot, Oulton Park 1971 I guess?

Monaco 1971, Luc.

Originally posted by BRM MICK2

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Taken on Saturday morning, Michael?!

Shame I didn't get to meet you guys at the FoS...

BTW why have you had to re-register, Mick?

#33 BRM MICK2

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Posted 12 July 2006 - 13:16

Originally posted by Twin Window
Monaco 1971, Luc.Taken on Saturday morning, Michael?!

Shame I didn't get to meet you guys at the FoS...

BTW why have you had to re-register, Mick?



Hi

MG Special pictures is from Friday afternoon just after a shower.


I had to re-register as AOL killed my other email address on going Broadband and i had lost original password.
If it can be changed back to BRM MICK that would be great, also can I change the password or is there a way of autologging on. The obscure password provided is driving me mad!!

Myself and my mate Jimbo (on right) on Sunday with a favourite car!!


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Last one of the MG
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#34 Stoatspeed

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Posted 12 July 2006 - 14:52

Originally posted by Twin Window
Thirty-five years ago today. It just doesn't seem possible it was that long ago...

A genuine hero.

I just missed seeing Pedro race ... I was already scheduled to go to British GP 1971 (as an enthusiastic 14 year old!) when the tragedy struck at the Norisring. I can't precisely recall my reaction to hearing the news (unlike the day Rindt died, where I can still picture the exact place I was), but I seem to recall there being some talk that there would be no BRM's at Silverstone as a mark of respect - of course, this did not happen and Seppi put up a good show. Perhaps this was the best way to respect Pedro?
Of course, we had to mourn again a few months later as we were robbed of Seppi too - it was indeed a sad year. We are fortunate that such human losses are now much rarer, but some would argue there are now other "losses" in the purity and passion of the sport .... perhaps challenging the odds against survival was part of the aura which has elevated the "legends" who are so venerated by us TNF'ers?
RIP, Pedro ... and all the others ):

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Posted 12 July 2006 - 16:15

Mick

OT, but I see the Cobra is signed by Gurney and Shelby...is it the '64 Dan Gurney/Jerry Grant Targa Florio car, CSX2323?

Vince Howlett, Victoria, B.C., Canada

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Posted 12 July 2006 - 16:20

Yesterday in my professionel day time job I got to see a document, irrelevant what it was. However it was signed by Pedro Rodriguez... A different person of course. But it struck me, as it was the 11th.

#37 Manfred Cubenoggin

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Posted 12 July 2006 - 16:32

Hope this image comes thru. Pedro has just won the Canadian GP at Mosport in 1963. Can't say who the passengers are.

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#38 Bruno

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Posted 12 July 2006 - 17:58

Originally posted by Manfred Cubenoggin
Hope this image comes thru. Pedro has just won the Canadian GP at Mosport in 1963. Can't say who the passengers are.

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that does not occur in 1964
6/9/1964: course au Mont Tremblant (Canada) Pedro Rodriguez/275 P

#39 Paul Medici

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Posted 12 July 2006 - 19:58

If not for a fellow named Hansgen........ :(

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#40 Pedro 917

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Posted 12 July 2006 - 19:59

The race was the Canadian GP at Mosport, 28 September 1963. Pedro drove a Ferrari 250P to victory, lapping the entire field except Graham Hill in a Lotus 23.

#41 Manfred Cubenoggin

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Posted 12 July 2006 - 22:45

Bruno: ??? Not sure what you're trying to say.

Pedro won again the next year at Mosport, 1964. I was there to see that win, too. It sure ain't St. Jovite. Never been there.

#42 Bruno

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Posted 13 July 2006 - 05:43

Ok, thank Manfred

#43 BRM MICK2

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Posted 13 July 2006 - 06:53

Originally posted by raceannouncer2003
Mick

OT, but I see the Cobra is signed by Gurney and Shelby...is it the '64 Dan Gurney/Jerry Grant Targa Florio car, CSX2323?

Vince Howlett, Victoria, B.C., Canada


Hi
Sorry I dont know. Contact me offline if you would like more photos

Mick :wave:

#44 Pedro 917

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 07:03

36 years ago but forever in my heart....

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#45 cjpani

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 14:04

:cry:

#46 Collective

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 14:35

Our greatest ever. It was very hard to find good information about Pedro's performances, until I came to this forum almost 2 years ago and found Pedro917 and cjpani's posts and threads.

Being 25 I never got to see him, but was really interested of knowing more about him. Thanks guys, and Pedro forever!!

#47 Ol'_Motorhead

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 16:10

At Mosport in 1961 I watched and listened to both Pedro and Ricardo in Ferraris. That was the pivotal experience that got me hooked on motor racing to this day. :clap: The sight and sound of those two young guys is beyond description by this then teenager. I'll never forget that weekend as long as I live! :up:

#48 Dave Ware

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 16:48

Are Pedro and Ricardo remembered in Mexico? And I mean remembered by the general population. I'm sure racing fans everywhere remember them.

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#49 rolando

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 17:37

Originally posted by Dave Ware
Are Pedro and Ricardo remembered in Mexico? And I mean remembered by the general population. I'm sure racing fans everywhere remember them.

Dave


In my opinion, Pedro and Ricardo are just remembered by the mexican racing enthusiasts, very few people outside racing know about their careers. Maybe Carlos Jalife's book changed this a little bit, but if they are mentioned by general population is when they refer to the Autodromo.

And Luc, thanks for remember Pedro today!

#50 alansart

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 17:39

Originally posted by Dave Ware
Are Pedro and Ricardo remembered in Mexico? And I mean remembered by the general population. I'm sure racing fans everywhere remember them.

Dave


That's a very interesting comment. We have lost quite a few UK drivers over the years, but it is only the racing people who remember them.

Racing is much safer these days so it's up to us to keep their memory alive.