National anthems
#1
Posted 10 August 2003 - 00:56
And what about the unilateral post race interviews?
Thanks
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#2
Posted 10 August 2003 - 01:11
Ben ick van Duytschen bloet,
Den Vaderlant getrouwe
Blyf ick tot in den doot:
Een Prince van Oraengien
Ben ick vrij onverveert,
Den Coninck van Hispaengien
Heb ick altijt gheeert.
Mijn Schilt ende betrouwen
Sijt ghy, o Godt mijn Heer,
Op u soo wil ick bouwen
Verlaet mij nimmermeer:
Dat ick doch vroom mach blijven
V dienaer taller stondt,
Die Tyranny verdrijven,
Die my mijn hert doorwondt.
All you need to know...;)
#3
Posted 10 August 2003 - 02:11
#4
Posted 10 August 2003 - 06:57
UK
Brazil
Germany
Argentina
France
Austria
Australia
Finland
Italy
USA
Canada
South Africa
Colombia
New Zealand
Switzerland
Belgium
Sweden
Mexico
To find the first you would have to go back before the World Championship started.Before TV or radio existed to record it!
#5
Posted 10 August 2003 - 08:07
Anthems must have been played in the 1930s, given the story that Nuvolari presented a copy of the Italiana anthem to be played after he won the German GP and the organizers had been sure of a German win. Whether they played the anthem for the driver and team, I have no idea.
#6
Posted 10 August 2003 - 09:09
PdeRL
#7
Posted 10 August 2003 - 09:31
#8
Posted 10 August 2003 - 09:51
The Irish National Anthem has only been played twice, (first time in France and second time in Monza, both during 1999) although Jordan has won 4 times.
At the first win for Jordan in Belgium 1998, no anthem was played for the constructors as the organisers had no copy of the music.
At the Brazilian Grand Prix, Raikonnen was declared the winner, which was corrected at the following race. I don't know if the anthem was played at the correcting ceremony.
As regards Eddie Irvine and the National Anthem, that was in Argentina when he came second (no anthem) but the Irish Flag was raised instead of the Union jack.
#9
Posted 10 August 2003 - 10:12
By the way, the UK flag is properly called The Union Flag rather than the Union Jack.
#10
Posted 10 August 2003 - 10:22
"Then out rang 'God Save the King' for the first time ever in the greatest of Grands Prix . . "
I would assume that the playing of the winner's national anthem has been standard practice since the earliest days.
#11
Posted 10 August 2003 - 10:23
If I wanted to be picky I could point out that Amhrán na bhFiann actually translates to "A Soldier's Song" but I think it's more important to clarify that it was played, which as you point out had been omitted in Rob29's post.
#12
Posted 10 August 2003 - 11:03
Originally posted by Blackjack
Eric, a minor correction:
The Irish National Anthem has only been played twice, (first time in France and second time in Monza, both during 1999) although Jordan has won 4 times.
At the first win for Jordan in Belgium 1998, no anthem was played for the constructors as the organisers had no copy of the music.
At the Brazilian Grand Prix, Raikonnen was declared the winner, which was corrected at the following race. I don't know if the anthem was played at the correcting ceremony.
As regards Eddie Irvine and the National Anthem, that was in Argentina when he came second (no anthem) but the Irish Flag was raised instead of the Union jack.
This surprises me surely the organisers would have a copy of the national anthem from all the countries participating, just incase a brazil happens.
#13
Posted 10 August 2003 - 11:17
#14
Posted 10 August 2003 - 11:35
#15
Posted 10 August 2003 - 12:42
#16
Posted 10 August 2003 - 12:49
#17
Posted 10 August 2003 - 14:00
Since when did geographical locality have any meaning in F1?
#18
Posted 10 August 2003 - 14:52
Originally posted by ensign14
Had Rikki von Opel ever won a GP, would they have played both the Liechtenstein (for him) and British (for Ensign/Brabham) anthems? I only ask because the tune for both is the same...
Before the start of Le Mans they play the national anthems of all the countries supplying drivers. This year the Italian anthem crept in twice -- does someone share (one of the many!) tunes that it uses, or was it just a cockup?
#19
Posted 10 August 2003 - 15:01
Originally posted by petefenelon
Before the start of Le Mans they play the national anthems of all the countries supplying drivers. This year the Italian anthem crept in twice -- does someone share (one of the many!) tunes that it uses, or was it just a cockup?
No one would complain so long as a certain German driver doesn't pretend to conduct...
I would be quite happy if no national anthems were played at all actually, but then I'm a bit odd.
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#20
Posted 10 August 2003 - 19:18
Originally posted by David Beard
No one would complain so long as a certain German driver doesn't pretend to conduct...
I would be quite happy if no national anthems were played at all actually, but then I'm a bit odd.
I'm something of an anarchist and definitely no monarchist; the only time I ever sing God Save The Queen is the annual us-vs-the Frogs "who can sing the loudest" contest before the off at Le Mans!
#21
Posted 10 August 2003 - 20:12
What about the post race TV interview
When did that start?
#22
Posted 10 August 2003 - 21:29
#23
Posted 10 August 2003 - 21:41
Originally posted by Eric McLoughlin
Mid 90s?
Earlier than that, Eric. But the Beeb never showed them live, only on their highlights programme: the first time I saw one live was when I got Eurosport in 1994. I'd guess it was one of Bernie's early-80s innovations.
#24
Posted 11 August 2003 - 07:03
Initially the person who made the interviews was from the local TV station, but now we have the same person in every race.
#25
Posted 11 August 2003 - 16:54
#26
Posted 11 August 2003 - 18:11
Originally posted by Ralliart
Politics and racing doesn't and shouldn't mix.
I agree with this.
However, I, being an Englishman am fortunate in that our national anthem has nothing to do with politics.
Read Sir Henry Birkin's "Full Throttle" (an the introduction by the Earl howe) for an exposition of my very old-fashioned views.
PdeRL
#27
Posted 11 August 2003 - 18:29
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#29
Posted 11 August 2003 - 19:12
God Save the Queen at the Dutch Grand Prix at Zandvoort 1967..
But my Favourite is:
Land of Hope and Glory by Vera Lynn
its such a great piece of music...
Still I hope..
Someday Great Britain will go for the Better???
Paul
#30
Posted 11 August 2003 - 19:21
An enterprising soul did produce a record of "South of the Border (down Mexico way)", which was duly played .....
When Honda had its own F1 team, did the Japanese anthem get played at its wins?
#31
Posted 11 August 2003 - 19:42
Here ya go.Originally posted by Kerb Bouncer
I don't know what the national anthem is for the Dominican Republic...
Just think, had Moss not turned up at Sebring in the OSCA in 54 (?), Rubirosa would have had it played for him...
#32
Posted 11 August 2003 - 19:52
Originally posted by paulhooft
I was very moved when the played
God Save the Queen at the Dutch Grand Prix at Zandvoort 1967..
But my Favourite is:
Land of Hope and Glory by Vera Lynn
its such a great piece of music...
Still I hope..
Someday Great Britain will go for the Better???
Paul
Hmm, quite a good idea, but the words are as "politically incorrect" as those of my preferred choice: "Rule Britannia"!!
PdeRL
#33
Posted 11 August 2003 - 20:55
Originally posted by paulhooft
I was very moved when the played
God Save the Queen at the Dutch Grand Prix at Zandvoort 1967..
But my Favourite is:
Land of Hope and Glory by Vera Lynn
its such a great piece of music...
Still I hope..
Someday Great Britain will go for the Better???
Paul
As an English anarcho-atheist - all I can say is:
Bring me my Bow of burning gold;
Bring me my Arrows of desire;
Bring me my Spear: O clouds, unfold:
Bring me my Chariot of Fire!
I will not cease from Mental Fight,
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand:
Till we have built Jerusalem
In England’s green and pleasant land
Now there's an anthem worth having!
#34
Posted 11 August 2003 - 21:26
As an English anarcho-atheist
Well, I would like This Land Is Your Land as the national anthem here, but I sing O Canada when I go to see the Expos play the Pittsburgh Pirates.
From Woody Guthrie's answer to God Bless America :
I saw sign there, said Private Property,
But on the other side, it didn't say nothing
That side was made for you and me.
Thanks Ensign ! Was that the anthem under Trujillo? It isn't bad at all.
#35
Posted 11 August 2003 - 22:16
Originally posted by petefenelon
As an English anarcho-atheist - all I can say is:
Now there's an anthem worth having!
Of course! Jerusalem - William Blake - an excellent suggestion
PdeRL
#36
Posted 11 August 2003 - 23:05
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#38
Posted 12 August 2003 - 03:06
Now I understand the real reason why they declare Raikkonen as winners, even if it was quite obvious that the winner should have been FisichellaOriginally posted by Pilla
This surprises me surely the organisers would have a copy of the national anthem from all the countries participating, just incase a brazil happens.
Same as Benetton: after 1996 is was registred as an Italian team, so I think (but I'm not sure about it) that when Berger won Germany 1997, they should have played "Inno di Mameli" (Mameli's anathem). Now I'm quite sure Renault is a French team but its factory is still the same, located at Enston, EnglandOriginally posted by Eric McLoughlin
Although Jordan's technical base is Silverstone, it is registered with the FIA as an Irish team.
I agree. As usual also in many Italian events, Italian is still not played complete, they miss the introduction. You can listen the complete one as background MIDI on this pageOriginally posted by mmoore97
It seems that only a year or two ago they played only 60 to 90 seconds of any anthem, and then abruptly cut it off in midstream. I always thought that was more than just a bit insulting. Don't they pretty much play anthems in their entirety these days??
By the way, I like to hear national anathems, even if I don't like ours (we have much better music!).
I don't see them as a politic message but only as a "acoustic national flag". If you look carefully at words, some anathems are quite terrible and surely ours is one of them! (click here for the complete Italian words and partial English translation; untranslated section is much worse!)
Ciao,
Guido
#39
Posted 21 December 2004 - 06:16
Originally posted by ensign14
Had Rikki von Opel ever won a GP, would they have played both the Liechtenstein (for him) and British (for Ensign/Brabham) anthems? I only ask because the tune for both is the same...
Anthems must have been played in the 1930s, given the story that Nuvolari presented a copy of the Italiana anthem to be played after he won the German GP and the organizers had been sure of a German win. Whether they played the anthem for the driver and team, I have no idea.
Was that 1935?
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#40
Posted 21 December 2004 - 21:59
Originally posted by petefenelon
As an English anarcho-atheist
Hi Pete ! Nor god nor master nor border !
Countries are small, the world is wide.
And I add : no more anthem, just only rock 'n roll !
#41
Posted 21 December 2004 - 22:14
A bit of an old version, DA, but nevertheless the most important one.;)Originally posted by Double Apex
Wilhelmus van Nassouwe