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#1 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 11 August 2003 - 07:39

1966 Cup of Peace and Friendship, round 3 (USSR, Leningrad)
July, 23
Track: Nevskoe Koltso (the Neva Ring)
Track length: 3.26 km
Race distance: 24 laps (78.24 km)
Fastest lap: Heinz Melkus (1'32.4" = 127.0 km/h)
Drivers started: 14
Race results:
1. Heinz Melkus GDR Melkus-65 Wartburg 38'40.1" = 121.4 km/h
2. Longin Bielak POL RAK Wartburg
3. Frieder Rädlein GDR Melkus-65 Wartburg
4. Laszlo Bognar HUN Melkus-62 Wartburg
5. Józef Kielbania POL RAK Wartburg
6. ?
7. Yuri Andreev USSR Melkus-64 Wartburg –3 laps
8. Viktor Lapin USSR Melkus-64 Wartburg -3 laps
9. Yakov Vartpatrikov USSR Melkus-64 Wartburg -3 laps
10. Evgeny Glukharev USSR Melkus Wartburg
DNF Ants Seiler USSR Estonia-9 Wartburg
DNF Herbert Armstroff GDR Melkus Wartburg

Can anyone add anything to this?

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#2 anjakub

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Posted 11 August 2003 - 18:03

Leningrad 1966

1. Heinz Melkus GDR Melkus-Wartburg 38'40.1" = 121.4 km/h
2. Longin Bielak POL Rak-Wartburg 39'28"
3. Frieder Rädlein GDR Melkus-Wartburg 39'46"
4. Laszlo Bognar HUN Melkus-Wartburg 22 laps
5. Józef Kielbania POL Rak-Wartburg 22 laps
6. Tibor Szeles HUN Melkus-Wartburg 22 laps

#3 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 12 August 2003 - 07:14

Thanks, Andrzej! :clap: Did any other Polish drivers than Kielbania and Bielak take part in that race?

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Posted 12 August 2003 - 09:21

Originally posted by anjakub
Leningrad 1966

1. Heinz Melkus GDR Melkus-Wartburg 38'40.1" = 121.4 km/h
2. Longin Bielak POL Rak-Wartburg 39'28"
3. Frieder Rädlein GDR Melkus-Wartburg 39'46"
4. Laszlo Bognar HUN Melkus-Wartburg 22 laps
5. Józef Kielbania POL Rak-Wartburg 22 laps
6. Tibor Szeles HUN Melkus-Wartburg 22 laps

If we want to be 100 percent precise, the correct spelling of the Hungarian names are László Bognár and Tibor Széles ;)

#5 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 12 August 2003 - 09:58

One more correction - thanks, Geza! :) The same question to you, too: did any other Hungarian drivers race in Leningrad? There are two unknown entries left! :confused:

Also I have to say that Melkus' race time has been counted by my own, being based on the race distance and the average speed. But perhaps the race distance was 78.4 km - nobody knows the exact length of Nevskoe Koltso circuit!

#6 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 14 August 2003 - 07:58

Note: the exact race time of Heinz Melkus was 38'39", therefore his average speed was 121.45 km/h.

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Posted 14 August 2003 - 11:36

Originally posted by Alexey Rogachev
One more correction - thanks, Geza! :) The same question to you, too: did any other Hungarian drivers race in Leningrad? There are two unknown entries left! :confused:

Also I have to say that Melkus' race time has been counted by my own, being based on the race distance and the average speed. But perhaps the race distance was 78.4 km - nobody knows the exact length of Nevskoe Koltso circuit!

Unfortunately my magazine collection starts from 1971, so I don't have any results form 1966 :( BTW, what does "Nevskoe Koltso" mean? I had learnt Russian for a lot of time and spent a week in the former Soviet Union, but I can't translate it :blush:

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Posted 14 August 2003 - 11:44

koltso= ring

Neva = river in Leningrad (St. Petersburg)

#9 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 14 August 2003 - 11:46

Yes, I do know that your collection of magazines starts from 1971. But could you please tell me the names of these Hungarian auto and autosport magazines? Perhaps I'll be able to find them in the library here in Moscow...

'Nevskoe Koltso' means, as I just have mentioned in the first post of this thread, 'The Neva Ring' :lol:

#10 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 14 August 2003 - 11:48

Originally posted by st59cz
koltso= ring

Neva = river in Leningrad (St. Petersburg)


st59cz = a great expert in Russian language & geography :)

#11 anjakub

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Posted 14 August 2003 - 12:14

Great Russian history:

May 16, 1703 - 1914: St. Petersburg
1914-1924: Petrograd
1924-1991: Leningrad
1991- : St. Petersburg

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Posted 14 August 2003 - 16:49

Originally posted by anjakub
Great Russian history:

May 16, 1703 - 1914: St. Petersburg
1914-1924: Petrograd
1924-1991: Leningrad
1991- : St. Petersburg

Isn't it actually Sankt Peterburg, without an "s"?

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Posted 14 August 2003 - 18:06

shot :cat:

#14 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 15 August 2003 - 07:44

Sat, could you please explain me why Czechoslovakian drivers didn't take part in the Soviet round of the 1966 Cup of Peace and Friendship?

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Posted 17 August 2003 - 12:43

As I was seven those days, I can't remember correctly... :lol:
But seriously, about 1000 km trip to USSR was always an adventure for not well equipped czech teams. Second reason can be that "comrads" (soudruzi=tovarischi) had not involved this race in his years plan...

#16 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 18 August 2003 - 09:55

Yes, I understand what you mean as such "year plans" were widely spread in Soviet motorsport. For example, the number of foreign races in which Soviet drivers took part never exceeded the number of the races in the USSR in which foreign drivers took part. And as the DOSAAF officials were always against inviting foreign drivers to race in the USSR (even from the Eastern Europe, not mention Western Europe!), the number of foreign races of Soviet drivers decreased respectively. In 1986, the Soviet delegation insisted on 4-round Cup of Peace and Friendship holding from 1987 onwards instead of 7-round! Also remember the failed Ecclestone's plan to hold the Formula 1 race in Moscow in 1983 - for the DOSAAF officials, the F1 race in Moscow was a terrible "ideologocal sabotage"...

Note: DOSAAF = Dobrovolnoe Obshestvo Sodeistviya Armii, Aviatsii i Flotu (Voluntary Army, Air Force and Fleet Assistance Society), an analogue of Czechoslovakian SVAZARM.

#17 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 19 August 2003 - 11:08

One picture from that race:

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#18 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 15 September 2003 - 08:14

1968 Cup of Peace and Friendship, Round 3 (USSR, Riga)
July, 21

Track: Bikernieki
Track length: 3.662 km
Race distance: 25 laps = 91.55 km
Drivers started: 22
Drivers finished: ?

Race results:
1. Heinz Melkus GDR Melkus-67 Wartburg 42'33.0" = 129.1 km/h
2. Jaroslav Bobek CZE Škoda-F3 +13.8"
3. Longin Bielak POL RAK-Promot Cosworth +56.5"
4. Enn Griffel USSR Estonia-9 Wartburg +58.6"
5. Yuri Andreev USSR Estonia-9F Cosworth 24 laps
6. Vladimir Grekov USSR Estonia-9 Wartburg
...
9. Gennady Zharkov USSR Estonia-9 Wartburg

I have to say that the race times of the first five drivers are very doubtful as they’ve been counted by my own, being based on their average speeds. The drivers’ race times were also found, but they haven’t corresponded to their average speeds and to each other!

22 drivers took part in this race. Nine of them were from Soviet Union, five drivers were Polish, four drivers were Czechoslovakian, and four drivers were from East Germany. Can anyone add something to the race results or reveal the unknown entries?

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Posted 15 September 2003 - 16:25

Now just so much.

1968 Cup of Peace and Friendship, Round 3 (USSR, Riga)


Track: Bikernieki
Track length: 3.660 km
Drivers started: 21
Drivers finished: 16

Race results:
1. Heinz Melkus GDR Melkus 67 - Wartburg
2. Jaroslav Bobek CZE Škoda-F3
3. Longin Bielak POL Promot 67 - Cosworth MAE
4. Enn Griffel USSR Estonia 9 - Wartburg
5. Yuri Andreev USSR Estonia 9 - Cosworth
6. Vladimir Grekov USSR Estonia 9 - Wartburg
...
11. Józef Kielbania POL Promot 67 - Wartburg
16. Ksawery Frank POL Rak-Promot - Wartburg
ret. Zbigniew Sucharda POL Promot 67 - Wartburg

More in the future.

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#20 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 16 September 2003 - 10:20

Great, Andrzej! :clap: You always have something to add to my CPF race results :) Many thanks!

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Posted 16 September 2003 - 10:24

Also could you please explain me what was the difference between Rak-Promot and Promot-67? I have a picture of Jerzy Jankowski sitting near the Polish F3 racing car that took part in Riga event in 1968. I'll try to post it to this thread as soon as possible. Perhaps you'll be able to determine its marque...

#22 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 17 September 2003 - 09:03

Here is this picture:
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Even though the picture is rather blurred, I think it will be possible to identify the car. BTW, is this really Jankowski who's sitting near the car?

I've found new fragments of the race results. According to a short race summary published in 'Soviet Latvia' newspaper, Bobek was 5" approximately behind Melkus, and Griffel was 1.4" behind Bielak. Also Vaclav Bobek's retirement has been mentioned.

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Posted 21 September 2003 - 09:08

Alexey, Anjacub, Geza Sury and anybody else with information!

I find the Peace and Friendship Cup competitions very interesting but my knowledge of the series is very limited. When you posted the results of round 3 of the 1968 series at Riga I was dismayed to find I had the Czech round with the same date! It is obvious to me that my piece-meal (!) compilation of these races is seriously flawed.

Would it be possible for you to list the circuits and dates for the races held over the years of this competition? It would be very much appreciated.

John

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Posted 21 September 2003 - 09:43

1967
1 Györ ?
2 Kraków-CzyŸyny 4.6.1967
3 Brno 2.9.1967
4 Dresden-Hellerau 10.9.1967
1968
1 Szczecin ?
2 Štramberk ?.6.1968
3 Riga 21.7.1968
1969
1 Havíøov, Tìrlický okruh 11.5.1969
2 Minsk 5.6.1969
3 Szczecin 9.6.1969
4 Dresden 4.9.1969


To be continued...

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Posted 21 September 2003 - 10:24

remain:

1970
1 Havíøov, Tìrlický okruh 9.5.1970
2 Minsk ?
3 Szczecin ?
4 Schleiz 8.8.1970
1971
1 Minsk ?
2 Schleiz 8.8.1971
1972
1 Most 9.5.1972
2 Minsk 6.6.1972
3 Schleiz ?.8.1972
1973
1 Most 6.5.1973
2 Minsk 3.6.1973
3 Sachsenring ?
4 Schleiz ?
5 Tiorun ?
1974
1 Minsk ?
2 Schleiz ?.8.74
3 Most ?
4 Tiorun 8.9.1974
1975
1 Minsk 1.6.1975
2 Schleiz 3.8.1975
3 Most 17.8.1975
4 Tiorun 7.9.1975
1976
1 Minsk, Borovaja 6.6.1976
2 Schleiz 7.8.1976
3 Most 29.8.1976
4 Tiorun 5.9.1976
5 Havíøov 25.9.1976
1977
1 Minsk 5.6.1977
2 Schleiz 31.7.1977
3 Most 28.8.1977
4 Tiorun ?.9.1977
5 Albena 18.9.1977
1978
1 Kijev, Èajka 4.6.1978
2 Schleiz 6.8.1978
3 Most 20.8.1978
4 Tiorun 10.9.1978
5 Albena 1.10.1978
1979
1 Kijev, Èajka 3.6.1979
2 Schleiz 5.8.1979
3 Most 12.8.1979
4 Tiorun 9.9.1979
5 Albena 30.9.1979
1980
1 Kijev, Èajka 31.5.1980
2 Schleiz 2.8.1980
3 Most 31.8.1980
4 Tioruñ 7.9.1980
5 Albena 21.9.1980
1981
1 Havíøov-Šenov 17.5.1981
2 Kielce 24.5.1981
3 Kijev, Èajka 31.5.1981
4 Schleiz 2.8.1981
5 Albena 20.9.1981
1982
1 Kielce 30.5.1982
2 Kijev, Èajka 6.6.1982
3 Schleiz 8.8.1982
4 Most 15.8.1982
5 Albena 19.9.1982
1983
1 Kijev, Èajka 5.6.1983
2 Havíøov-Šenov 19.6.1983
3 Schleiz 7.8.1983
4 Poznañ 28.8.1983
5 Albena 18.9.1983
1984
1 Most 6.5.1984
2 Kielce 27.5.1984
3 Riga, Bikernieki 3.6.1984
4 Schleiz 5.8.1984
5 Reœica 9.9.1984
6 Albena 16.9.1984
1985
1 Most 3.5.1985
2 Poznañ 12.5.1985
3 Riga, Bikernieki 19.5.1985
4 Schleiz 4.8.1985
5 Galati 15.9.1985
6 Albena 22.9.1985
1986
1 Kielce 25.5.1986
2 Most, autodrom 1.6.1986
3 Hungaroring 15.6.1986
4 Riga 27.7.1986
5 Schleiz 3.8.1986
6 Resita ?
7 Albena ?
1987
1 Poznañ 24.5.1987
2 Schleiz 2.8.1987
3 Hungaroring 13.9.1987
4 Albena 20.9.1987
1988
1 Most 8.5.1988
2 Resita 29.5.1988
3 Riga 10.7.1988
4 Schleiz 7.8.1988
1989
1 Poznan 21.5.1989
2 Riga 16.7.1989
3 Schleiz 6.8.1989
4 Resita 17.9.1989
1990
1 Poznan ?
2 Havíøov 3.6.1990
3 Riga, Bikernieki ?
4 Schleiz 5.8.1990

#26 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 22 September 2003 - 07:32

In 1967, a Soviet round of Cup of Peace and Friendship was expected to be held on July 22-23, but it was cancelled. I think the reason to be the fatal racing accident that had happened in Tbilisi on April 9, 1967 - six spectators were killed in it. Generally speaking, the 1967 season was a great crisis in Soviet autosport...

And in 1968, the four-round championship was planned. The final round had to be held in Dresden in October.

#27 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 22 September 2003 - 08:24

A request to sat, Anjakub, Geza: when typing replies, please don't use your native symbol code to insert letters with diacritical marks as they're displayed as Cyrilic letters on my PC! Could you please type letters without any diacritical marks or use the Microsoft Word symbols table?

#28 st59cz

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Posted 22 September 2003 - 09:03

don't use your native symbol code



you can install central european language support for youe IE, then you can see right letters...

#29 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 22 September 2003 - 09:17

Thank you for your advice! :clap:

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Posted 22 September 2003 - 09:45

sat, Alexey

Thanks for the information. I will have another trawl through my records to see if I can find any missing dates.

John

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Posted 22 September 2003 - 20:31

sat, Alexey

Following dates found:-

22/07/63 Gliwice
18/06/63 Sachsenring
25/08/63 Brno ( I think this was the Czech round, not certain.)
Was there an Hungarian round?

??/??/?? ( Hungarian round )
26/07/64 Sachsenring
22/08/64 Brno
04/10/64 Krakow

18/07/65 Sachsenring
05/09/65 Stramberk
( Polish and Hungarian rounds not known )

03 or 10/07/1966 Budapest ( In a park )
23/07/66 Leningrad
25/09/66 Prague - ( Strahov stadium )
14/08/66 Schliez
( Was there a Polish round? )

Additional dates:-

23/06/68 Stramberk

28/06/70 Szczecin

06/08/72 Schliez

07/07/73 Sachsenring
05/08/73 Schliez
02/09/73 Torun

02/06/74 Minsk
04/08/74 Schliez
01/09/74 Most

20/05/90 Poznan
29/07/90 Bikernieki
( These two on schedules from Illustrerter Motorsport, I don't know if they actually happened )

Now all we need, besides a few more dates, are the entry lists and full official results, I wish!

John

#32 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 23 September 2003 - 08:43

John,

I doubt that there was a Czechoslovakian CPF round in 1963 as Czechoslovakian drivers began to race in the Cup of Peace and Friendship in 1964 or even in 1965! I'm sure that there was a Hungarian round instead of Czechoslovakian in 1963. Please check your sources once more!

As for the F. Junior race held in Brno on August 25, 1963 - I can say that it definitely wasn't a CPF round! Look here, and you will find a number of drivers from Western Europe in the race results. Therefore it wasn't a CPF event, but a non-championship international F. Junior race only.

There is also a couple of other web-sites that contains CPF race results. The first is http://www.puru.de/motorsport.html - the 1978-90 results, mostly full ones, can be found there. The second is http://home.wanadoo....oviet/fscc.html - a section of 'The GEL Motorsport Pages' by Darren Galpin that contains the results of my research for CPF results. They are very poor, though.

Also you can find here the thread called 'TNF Is a Real Motorsport Encyclopaedia' started by Kvadrat - some detailes regarding CPF were discussed there.

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Posted 23 September 2003 - 09:01

posted by Alexey Rogachev
I doubt that there was a Czechoslovakian CPF round in 1963 as Czechoslovakian drivers began to race in the Cup of Peace and Friendship in 1964 or even in 1965! I'm sure that there was a Hungarian round instead of Czechoslovakian in 1963. Please check your sources once more!


:confused:

#34 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 23 September 2003 - 10:16

What do you mean by your :confused:

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Posted 23 September 2003 - 16:34

Alexey

There were rounds of the Peace and Friendship Cup in 1964 and 1965 in Czechoslovakia. The 1964 round was held the day before the International race.

As for 1963 there were 45 entries for the Brno Formula Junior race or races and the "western" press may only have reported on the International race. Possibly there was a race restricted to the Socialist countries the day before as in 1964. It seems unlikely they would have had just one race for so many cars despite it being a long circuit. All the top East German, Polish and Hungarian drivers were listed and, with respect, I don't think they would have bothered to have entered if they were only to race against the "western cars". But, like I say, I have not been able to find a reference to the Peace and Friendship Cup.

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Posted 23 September 2003 - 18:12

1964 Czech round was at Brno 22.8.1964 day before International race
1965 Czech round was at Brno 25.7.1965, all other races in the day was for motorcycles

... definitely no "eastern" race on 25.8.1963.

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Posted 23 September 2003 - 18:23

My book about Brno races lists only one Formula Junior race for 1963, won by a well known Austrian driver Barry ahead of his to me unknown countryman called Rindt :rotfl: , both in Cooper-Fords. Only in 1964 and 1966 there were two F3 races, one only for Cup of Socialist Countries...
And, OT, Barry apparently won GT race in same yer, 1963, too, in a Porsche. Now, I never before heard of Barry - not a minor achievement, especially beating Jochen in process. A little googling brought just a few information about Kurt Bardi-Barry but results he achieved seem to be pretty impressive. Obviously he also died in an accident somewhere? As Atlas search doesn't work at the moment I can't find if he was discussed here already?

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Posted 23 September 2003 - 19:35

Bardi-Barry was very good.
He was killed in a road accident in January 1964

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Posted 23 September 2003 - 20:03

sat, dmj

So was there a 1963 Czech round of the Peace and Friendship Cup or not? If there was, any idea where it was held if not Brno?

Do we agree the 1965 round was held at Stramberk and the 1966 round at Prague?

I must admit I have great difficulty deciphering Svet Motoru reports!

John

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Posted 23 September 2003 - 21:03

I must admit I have great difficulty deciphering Svet Motoru reports!




That have I too... :lol: Until today is reporting about facts and results not the strongest side of czech motorsport journalists.

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Posted 24 September 2003 - 05:56

Czechoslovakian Cup rounds in 1965 and 1966:
(3rd round) 25.07.1965 Brno, 8 laps, 111,52 km, winner Heinz Melkus (Melkus-Wartburg) 48.42,1 (137,4 km/h), etc
(4th round) 25.09.1966 Prague, Strahov, 25 laps, 77,5 km, winner Jerzy Jankowski (Rak-Cosworth) 38.13,5 (120,7 km/h), etc.

#42 humphries

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Posted 24 September 2003 - 09:05

Anjakub

Very interesting! At least we agree on Prague as the 1966 round of the Peace and Friendship Cup.

Looking again at the report of the 25.7.65 in Svet Motoru there is no mention of the titled series. Most of the report is given over to the motor bike races and just one paragraph to the F3 race. However I think you are right.

Looking at the final points table for the Czech national F3 championship it lists four races Brno, Most, Stramberk and Prague. Delving backwards it appears that the first round at Brno was held on 1 May. I was not aware that two meetings were held on the Brno circuit that year.

If you can check the other Cup dates 1963-1971 and confirm I would be most obliged.

John

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Posted 24 September 2003 - 21:10

Originally posted by humphries
sat, dmj

So was there a 1963 Czech round of the Peace and Friendship Cup or not? If there was, any idea where it was held if not Brno?

Do we agree the 1965 round was held at Stramberk and the 1966 round at Prague?

I must admit I have great difficulty deciphering Svet Motoru reports!

John



Dear John,

in Brno were on 26.8.1962 and 25.8.1963 international Formel Junor races, but no round of the Cup of Peace and Friendship (CPF). 1965 Stramberk race was part of Czechoslovak championship with (for more atractivity of event) invited 4 drivers from Eastern Germany and 4 from Poland. First Brno race in 1964 and 1965 was not on GP racetrack, but on small (1,5km) racetrack between pavilions of Brno Fairs.

Here are dates from F3 times:
Legend - CZ = Round of Czechoslovak Championship, Int = International Race in Czechoslovakia or in other countries,where took part also Czechoslovak drivers, Int-CPF = Round of CPF, Int+CPF = International race with separate clasification for CPF, Int+CZ = International race with separate clasification for Czechoslovak Championship

1964
17.5. CZ Brno - výstavištì
5.7. Int+CZ Jièín - Cena Prachovských skal
12.7. Int+CZ Piešany
25.7. Int-CPF Sachsenring
26.7. Int Sachsenring
22.8. Int-CPF Brno
23.8. Int Brno
13.9. Int Štramberk
1965
1.5. CZ Brno - výstavištì
23.5. Int Jièín - Cena Prachovských skal
30.5. Int Piešany
18.7. Int+CPF Sachsenring
25.7. Int-CPF Brno
5.9. Int+CZ Štramberk
3.10. Int+CZ Strahov
1966
5.6. CZ Štramberk
3.or 10.7. Int+CPF Budapest
31.7. Int Jièín - Cena Prachovských skal
14.8. Int Piešany
14.8. Int+CPF Schleiz
4.9. Int Brno
18.9. CZ Most
25.9. Int-CPF Strahov
1967
1.5. CZ Brno - výstavištì
21.5. Int-CPF Györ (? - anyhow it was an airfield racetrack)
4.6. Int-CPF Krakow
18.6. Int-CPF Štramberk
18.6. CZ Štramberk
9.7. Int Jièín - Cena Prachovských skal
30.7. Int+CZ Piešany
20.8. CZ Prievidza
3.9. Int-CPF Brno
3.9. Int+CZ Brno
10.9. Int Autobahnspinne Dresden
1968
10.5. CZ Havíøov - Tìrlická pøehrada
26.5. Int Bernauer Schleifrennen
2.6. Int-CPF Štìtín - PLR
9.6. CZ Rosice
23.6. CZ Štramberk
23.6. Int-CPF Štramberk
21.7. Int-CPF Riga
28.7. Int Piešany
11.8. CZ Prievidza
18.8. Int Brno
1969
27.4. CZ Olomouc
11.5. CZ Havíøov - Tìrlická pøehrada
11.5. Int-CPF Havíøov - Tìrlická pøehrada
25.5. Int Brno
15.6. Int-CPF Minsk
29.6. Int-CPF Szczecin
27.7. Int Piešany
24.8. Int Jièín - Cena ÈSR a Cena Prachovských skal
7.9. CZ Štramberk
14.9. Int-CPF Autobahnspinne Dresden
28.9. CZ Most
1970
26.4. CZ Olomouc
9.5. Int-CPF Havíøov - Tìrlická pøehrada
14.5. Int-CPF Minsk
24.5. Int Brno
21.6. Int Jièín - Cena ÈSR a Cena Prachovských skal
28.6. Int Szczecin
28.6. Int-CPF Szczecin
12.7. CZ Klatovy
8.8. Int-CPF Schleiz
6.9. Int Autobahnspinne Dresden
13.9. CZ Štramberk
20.9. CZ Most


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Posted 24 September 2003 - 22:49

IMV

Thanks.

You must be a mind-reader! I was going to ask if anyone could supply a list of all the F3 races held in Czechoslovakia. Your information is very useful but beware I'll be back wanting more!!! Like can you list the Formula Junior races?

Again thanks.

John

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Posted 25 September 2003 - 09:23

Oh, what a great discussion has begun here on this unpretentious thread! :lol: So I repeat my original request: can anyone add anything to the 1968 Riga results? Sat, is there any race report in 'Svet Motoru'? I can say that I've looked through all available sources and found only one German entry (Heinz Melkus) and two Czechoslovakian entries (J. Bobek & V. Bobek). What were the rest of them, I wonder? :confused:

#46 Jimmy Piget

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Posted 25 September 2003 - 20:06

Originally posted by IMV
Here are dates from F3 times: Legend - CZ = Round of Czechoslovak Championship, Int = International Race in Czechoslovakia or in other countries,where took part also Czechoslovak drivers, Int-CPF = Round of CPF, Int+CPF = International race with separate clasification for CPF, Int+CZ = International race with separate clasification for Czechoslovak Championship


Michale,

Impressive list, indeed !
Do you know who were the winners ?

Other thing : what do mean the idioms "vystavisti", "prehrada", "skal" ?

Ahoj !

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Posted 25 September 2003 - 21:09

Vystaviste = Fair ground
Prehrada = Dam
Skala = Rock (Cena Prachovskych skal = Prachov rock prize)

#48 IMV

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Posted 26 September 2003 - 21:21

Originally posted by Alexey Rogachev
Oh, what a great discussion has begun here on this unpretentious thread! :lol: So I repeat my original request: can anyone add anything to the 1968 Riga results? Sat, is there any race report in 'Svet Motoru'? I can say that I've looked through all available sources and found only one German entry (Heinz Melkus) and two Czechoslovakian entries (J. Bobek & V. Bobek). What were the rest of them, I wonder? :confused:


Dear Alexey, I didn´t found anything in Svet Motoru, but as far as Czechoslovakian entries, there has to be for sure Miroslav Fousek, the third Skoda factory driver and overall winner of Cup of Peace and Friendship at this year...
Michal

#49 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 27 September 2003 - 12:07

Michal, thank you for your effort! BW, the top three drivers of the 1968 CPF were: Miroslav Fousek (18 points), Jaroslav Bobek (16 points), Heinz Melkus (15 points).

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Posted 17 October 2003 - 10:52

1969 Cup of Peace and Friendship, round 2 (USSR, Minsk)
June, 15
Track: Borovoe
Track length: 4.03 km
Race distance: 22 laps (88.66 km)
Fastest lap: ?
Drivers started: 18
Drivers finished: 12
Race results:
1. Vladimir Hubaček, CZE, Lotus-41C Cosworth MAE, 40’03.0”
2. Vladimir Ondřejik, CZE, Lotus-41C Cosworth MAE, 40’09.0”
3. Jaroslav Bobek, CZE, Škoda-F3, 40’34.8”
4. Yuri Andreev, USSR, de Sanctis Cosworth MAE, 40’38.9”
5. Heinz Melkus, DDR, Melkus-67 Wartburg, 41’05.8“
6. Longin Bielak, POL, Promot-67 Cosworth MAE
...
10. Vladimir Grekov, USSR, Estonia-9M Wartburg
...
12. Henri Saarm, USSR, Estonia-9M Wartburg
...
DNF Enn Griffel, USSR, Estonia-9M Wartburg
DNF Gennady Zharkov, USSR, Estonia-9M Wartburg

Any additions and corrections? :)