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#501 arttidesco

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Posted 20 May 2010 - 11:25

#64 obviously sponsored by a top clothing manufacturer as well as a leading brand of American cigarettes (?) can you imagine today's F1 teams dressed in speedo's for Friday practice ?

Fabulous pictures by Mr Bortsov please pass on my thanks :-)

A couple of questions does any one have any idea how the Formula came to be called Formula Easter ?

Seems to have religious connotations out of step with the atheist leanings of the dominant political parties of the Eastern Bloc at the time.

Secondly slightly off topic I have always has a soft spot for Lada's I learnt to drive in a Fiat 124 Special T among other models,

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Lada Badge, Bristol 17 05 10 With owners permission

I came across this Latvian registered Lada the other day and wondered if anyone would be so kind as to confirm the model badge says Huzyau ?

Any details on the pronunciation and meaning would be much appreciated :-)



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#502 David McKinney

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Posted 20 May 2010 - 14:05

... does any one have any idea how the Formula came to be called Formula Easter ?

Seems to have religious connotations out of step with the atheist leanings of the dominant political parties of the Eastern Bloc at the time.

Clearly related to "east" or "eastern"


#503 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 20 May 2010 - 14:48

I came across this Latvian registered Lada the other day and wondered if anyone would be so kind as to confirm the model badge says Huzyau ?

Any details on the pronunciation and meaning would be much appreciated :-)


This badge says "Жигули" ("Zhiguli") in fact - that was the home market name of the cars produced by VAZ (not in use now). They were exported as "Lada" just to prevent misunderstandings like this ;) This name comes from the Zhiguli Height, a low mointain range in Russia, close to Toliatti, the place where these cars are produced.

Clearly related to "east" or "eastern"

Quite right! I think Formula Eastern is more correct but the people who invented the "international" name for the new racing formula in 1971 were obviously ignorant in English :lol: In the USSR, this formula was called F. Vostok (vostok = East in Russian).

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Posted 20 May 2010 - 15:08

Thanks Alexey I wondered if the model badge might be in the cyrillic alphabet, thanks for the details on it's meaning :-)


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Here is the rest of the car just in case anyone was curious what a Zhiguli for the Russian Market looked like :-)

Help we, in the West, have had the name of the Eastern Blocs premier Formula wrong for nearly 40 years ! :rotfl:

Formula East makes a lot more sense :-)

Still at least it is not as smelly a mistake as Rolls Royce trying to sell Silver Mist to the Germans :-)



#505 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 20 May 2010 - 15:33

Little by little, thanks to this linguistic off topic, this thread has overpassed 500 posts... :clap:

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Posted 20 May 2010 - 17:48

Congratulations on reaching 500 posts Alexey :clap:

As a relative newby here I have really enjoyed reading and seeing the fruits of your labour, a real quality thread thank you for sticking with it :-)

Sorry to have taken you over 500 by going off topic I had no idea :stoned:

Shall I go and warm up the Trabby maybe we could all hook up to celebrate ?

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Posted 20 May 2010 - 18:04

I think Formula Eastern is more correct

we should ask a native speaker of English.

In Poland this formula was referenced as Formula Ester.



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Posted 20 May 2010 - 18:18

If Vostok means East then Formula East makes sense.

I confess English is not strictly my first language so maybe we need a second opinion :-)

It would be interesting to know how and why the name 'Vostok' was chosen and by whom ?

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 06:59

7 – Mariusz Podkalicki, Poland, Promot 78
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A question to Grzegorz Chyla: was Podkalicki driving the F. Polonia (i.e. the FIAT-powered) car in Riga? We can see the inscription "FORMULA POLONIA" on the rear wing of his car, and the brilliant Grzegorz Fronczyk's web site on the Polish motor sport history says Podkalicki to drive in this class indeed in the national Polish championship in 1985: http://www.scr.civ.pl/wmp1985.html. But what was the reason to make the F. Polonia entry in the F. Easter race?

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 20:49

A question to Grzegorz Chyla: was Podkalicki driving the F. Polonia (i.e. the FIAT-powered) car in Riga? We can see the inscription "FORMULA POLONIA" on the rear wing of his car, and the brilliant Grzegorz Fronczyk's web site on the Polish motor sport history says Podkalicki to drive in this class indeed in the national Polish championship in 1985: http://www.scr.civ.pl/wmp1985.html. But what was the reason to make the F. Polonia entry in the F. Easter race?

we discussed this subject already 3 years ago:

here: http://forums.autosp...w...t&p=2716600
and here: http://forums.autosp...w...t&p=2719838

OMG! It was almost 3 years ago...

BTW: you can now easily compare two subversions of Promot II - car 7 is older, it has a narrower rollbar and visible shock absorbers, while car #10 is newer, it has a wide rollbar and front shock absorbers hidden inside car's body. But the body panels look identical.

#511 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 24 May 2010 - 05:21

we discussed this subject already 3 years ago:

Indeed we have done... Thank you for reminding me, I have completely forgotten about this :drunk: I'm going to correct my web page.

BTW: you can now easily compare two subversions of Promot II - car 7 is older, it has a narrower rollbar and visible shock absorbers, while car #10 is newer, it has a wide rollbar and front shock absorbers hidden inside car's body. But the body panels look identical.

Yes, I have noticed the difference between the front suspension structures of the Promots but I have supposed that the pull rods on Banaszak's car were the self-made modification in order to be internationally competitive, while Podkalicki, driving in national F. Polonia, didn't need for any major modifications of his Promot.

Edited by Alexey Rogachev, 24 May 2010 - 05:21.


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Posted 25 May 2010 - 19:25

The photos from the 1986 Riga CPF round – all of them were received from my Latvian friends. The full race results are here: http://www.ussr-auto.../1986fscc4.html.

F. Easter

1 – Tomasz Sikora, Poland, Promot 85
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3 – Jerzy Mazur, Poland, MTX 1-06
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9 – Andrzej Wojciechowski, Poland, Promot 78
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17 – Tomasz Szczęsny, Poland, Promot 78
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21 – Václav Lím, Czechoslovakia, Avia AE3
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24 – Jiří Moskal, Czechoslovakia, MTX 1-06B
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29 – Jiří Mičánek, Czechoslovakia, SRG MT77
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31 – Jiří Veselý, Czechoslovakia, RAF 86
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51 – László Oroszlán, Hungary, RAF 80
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52 – István Tárró, Hungary, MTX 1-06
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53 – Zoltán Stiller, Hungary, RAF 80
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54 – Mátyás Szigetvári, Hungary, MTX 1-06
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55 – László Kálmándi-Pap, Hungary, MTX 1-06
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61 – Urmas Põld, USSR, Estonia 21M
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64 – Toivo Asmer, USSR, Estonia 21M
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66 – Mart Kongo, USSR, Estonia 21M
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67 – Valdas Jonušis, USSR, Estonia 21M
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68 – Viktor Kozankov, USSR, Estonia 21M
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72 – Toomas Napa, USSR, Estonia 21M
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75 – Ivars Krūmiņš, USSR, Estonia 21M
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77 – Alexandr Ponomarev, USSR, Estonia 21M (with the monocoque chassis instead of the tubular frame)
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81 – Ulrich Melkus, East Germany, SRG MT77
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90 – Heinz Siegert, East Germany, SRG MT77
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93 – Bernd Kasper, East Germany, SRG MT77
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96 – Manfred Günther, East Germany, SRG MT77
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111 – Eugen Peteanu, Romania, car unknown
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112 – Corneliu Biribi, Romania, car unknown
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114 – Mircea Ponta, Romania, car unknown
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115 – Tiberiu Gedeon, Romania, car unknown
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 19:27

Group A2

3 – Andrzej Ptak, Poland, Lada 2105
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8 – Henryk Mandera, Poland, Lada 2105 (no photo)

12 – Jerzy Franek, Poland, Lada 2105
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22 – Vlastimil Tomášek, Czechoslovakia, Škoda 130L
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25 – Oldřich Vaníček, Czechoslovakia, Škoda 130L
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26 – Rudolf Machánek, Czechoslovakia, Lada 2105
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27 – Petr Bold, Czechoslovakia, Lada 2105
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28 – Josef Studenič, Czechoslovakia, Škoda 130L
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40 – Valentin Antov, Bulgaria, Lada 21011
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41 – Lyubomir Peshev, Bulgairia, Lada 21011 (no photo)

44 – Ivan Ivanov, Bulgaria, Lada 21011 (no photo)

45 – Jordan Kuznetsov, Bulgaria, Lada 21011
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47 – Dimitr Georgiev, Bulgaria, Lada 21011 (no photo)

55 – András Gergely, Hungary, Škoda 130L
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57 – Karoly Balasz, Hungary, Lada 2105
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64 – Alexey Grigoriev, USSR, Lada 2105
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72 – Yury Katsay, USSR, Lada 2105
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74 – Mikhail Tarakanov, USSR, Lada 2105
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77 – Leonid Protasov, USSR, Lada 2105
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78 – Vladimir Egorov, USSR, Lada 2105
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79 – Vladimir Krivosheev, USSR, Lada 2105 (no photo)

87 – Wolfgang Krug, East Germany, Škoda 130L
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91 – Gerhard Hahnel, East Germany, Lada 21011
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94 – Klaus Gohlke, East Germany, Lada 2105
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101 – Nicu Grigoras, Romania, Dacia 1310
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102 – Stefan Jancovic, Romania, Dacia 1310 (no photo)

103 – Victor Nicoara, Romania, Dacia 1310
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106 – George Preoteasa, Romaina, Dacia 1310
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 19:46

Another amazing collection of photographs, thanks to everyone who contributed Alexey :-)

love the paint job on the #103 – Victor Nicoara, Romania, Dacia 1310 some one obviously had a sense of humour :-)

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Posted 01 June 2010 - 18:10

On sunday I was on Poznan racetrack for a first attempt of Formula Easter revival.
Three cars only appeared:
1983 Metalex 1-06 of Jacek Szmidt,
1983 Metalex 1-06 of Jerzy Mazur (car originally driven by Józef Kiełbania)
198? Estonia 21, chassis 13 of Patryk Mikiciuk (car of Kozankov, perhaps the same as above no 68)

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Spirit is high, many drivers came with no cars, but most of them promissed they will bring cars next time:
From left:
Tomasz Osterloff, Lech Wojciechowski, Marek Bogusz,
Artur Skwarzyński, Józef Gutmacher, Tomasz Jeromin, Jerzy Mazur,
Patryk Mikiciuk, Wiktor Gasenko, Jacek Szmidt, Tomasz Dąbrowski,
Michał Gil, Adam Sowa.
Also Marian Czapka was present, but not on this photo.
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Next attempt (no race, just a parade) is planned on June 27th in Poznan. And plans are for competition next year.


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Posted 01 June 2010 - 18:20

198? Estonia 21, chassis 13 of Patryk Mikiciuk (car of Kozankov, perhaps the same as above no 68)

Going by what Alexandr Sadovsky just told me, this is the next Kozankov's car, the Estonia 21.10, made in autumn 1987. I'm going to post here tomorrow the batch of photos from 1988, and you'll see it there in its original state. The car that Kozankov drove in 1986 was the Estonia 21M, now being in Tallinn in a rather poor state.


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Posted 01 June 2010 - 18:21

On sunday I was on Poznan racetrack for a first attempt of Formula Easter revival.
Three cars only appeared:
1983 Metalex 1-06 of Jacek Szmidt,
1983 Metalex 1-06 of Jerzy Mazur (car originally driven by Józef Kiełbania)
198? Estonia 21, chassis 13 of Patryk Mikiciuk (car of Kozankov, perhaps the same as above no 68)

Next attempt (no race, just a parade) is planned on June 27th in Poznan. And plans are for competition next year.


Great to see the Formula Easter Revival gathering pace :-)

Let's hope some more drivers can bring their cars in June :-)


#518 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 02 June 2010 - 18:22

The 1988 CPF round 3 in Riga (for race results see http://www.ussr-auto.../1988fscc3.html) :

F. Easter

8 – Andrzej Godula, Poland, Promot 85
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9 – Piotr Gorecki, Poland, Promot 85
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12 – Artur Skwarzyński, Poland, Promot 85 (no photo)

14 – Eugeniusz Zarzycki, Poland, Promot 85
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21 − Jiří Mičánek, Czechoslovakia, MTX 1-06B
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22 – Václav Lím, Czechoslovakia, Avia AE3
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24 – Miran Velkoborský, Czechoslovakia, MTX 1-06B (no photo)

26 − Jan Veselý, Czechoslovakia, RAF 86
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45 – Stoyan Apostolov, Bulgaria, MTX 1-06 (no photo)

53 − Zoltán Stiller, Hungary, RAF 80
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54 − András Gergely, Hungary, Vasert G01
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55 – László Kálmándi-Pap, Hungary, MTX 1-06
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56 – Arpád Kurcz, Hungary, Kovács KH02
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59 – László Harkányi, Hungary, MTX 1-06
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61 – Urmas Põld, USSR, Estonia 21.10
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64 – Toivo Asmer, USSR, Estonia 21.10
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68 – Viktor Kozankov, USSR, Estonia 21.10
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72 – Toomas Napa, USSR, Estonia 21.10
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75 – Ivars Krūmiņš, USSR, Estonia 21.10 (no photo)

111 – Eugen Peteanu, Romania, GT 88
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114 – Werner Hirschvogel, Romania, GT 88
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115 – Tiberiu Gedeon, Romania, GT 88
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118 – Wilhelm Kulpinski, Romania, GT 88
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Posted 02 June 2010 - 18:25

Group A2

8 – Henryk Mandera, Poland, Lada 2105 (no photo)

14 – Grzegorz Baran, Poland, Lada 2105 (no photo)

23 – Petr Bold, Czechoslovakia, Lada 2105
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25 – Ladislav Bareš, Czechoslovakia, Škoda 130L
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27 – František Došek, Czechoslovakia, Škoda 130L
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29 − Josef Studenič, Czechoslovakia, Škoda 130L
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40 – Valentin Antov, Bulgaria, Lada 2105 (no photo)

41 – S. Kozhukharov, Bulgaria, Lada 2105 (no photo)

43 – Georgy Peterneychev, Bulgaria, Lada 2105
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44 – Ivan Ivanov, Bulgaria, Lada 2105
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45 – Jordan Kuznetsov, Bulgaria, Lada 2105
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57 (?) – Karoly Balasz, Hungary, Lada 2105 (no photo)

64 – Alexey Grigoriev, USSR, Lada 2105
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66 – Yury Serov, USSR, Lada 2105
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72 – Yury Katsay, USSR, Lada 2105
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73 – Rolands Dūda, USSR, Lada 2105 (no photo)

74 – Mikhail Tarakanov, USSR, Lada 2105
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76 – Guntars Judeiks, USSR, Lada 2105
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78 – Vladimir Egorov, USSR, Lada 2108
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101 – Nicu Grigoras, Romania, Dacia 1300
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103 – Victor Nicoara, Romania, Dacia 1300
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104 – Oridin Mazilu, Romania, Dacia 1310
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106 – Silviu Dinu, Romania, Dacia 1310
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110 – Gheorghe Preoteasa, Romania, Dacia 1300
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Posted 14 June 2010 - 00:14

Do they still get raced?


Apparently so the this linked gallery has some 11 pages of pictures of races 2007 - 2009 including Formula Easter, Prototypes (!), and a wonderful selection of Dacia's, Lada's (includung station wagon) Melkus, Polski Fiats, Skoda's, Trabandts, Wartburgs and Zastavas.

The only way I found to navigate from one gallery to another, despite reading German fluently is to change the gal number in the URL from 10 to 21.

Elsewhere on the site there are results for numerous events too :-)





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Posted 30 June 2010 - 07:01

I have a question relating to 1981 season.

There is a classification on:
http://www.puru.de/pff81.html

1. Jiri Moskal CSSR 186
2. Toomas Napa UdSSR 175
3. Jiri Cerva CSSR 157
4. Sandro Kovacz Ungarn 139
5. Jacek Schmidt Polen 138


And I found in the book by Zdenek Cizek 'Automobilovy Pohar Miru a Pratelstvi' that final order was Moskal. Cerva, Szmidt.
Actually it was pointed out to me by Jacek Szmidt, who still has his cup for third place in final classification.

For Sandro Kovacs it is a math error, he has 129 points (places: 13, dnf, 14, 18, 6; points: 32+0+31+27+39), I will report it to Ray.

But what about Napa? He was excluded from final round in Albena (engine).
Does it mean he was also excluded from the whole series?
It is also possible that this exclusion from race could not be dropped as worst result, but was it the case in 1981?

Any clues?

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 22:28

I have a question relating to 1981 season.

There is a classification on:
http://www.puru.de/pff81.html


And I found in the book by Zdenek Cizek 'Automobilovy Pohar Miru a Pratelstvi' that final order was Moskal. Cerva, Szmidt.
Actually it was pointed out to me by Jacek Szmidt, who still has his cup for third place in final classification.

For Sandro Kovacs it is a math error, he has 129 points (places: 13, dnf, 14, 18, 6; points: 32+0+31+27+39), I will report it to Ray.

But what about Napa? He was excluded from final round in Albena (engine).
Does it mean he was also excluded from the whole series?
It is also possible that this exclusion from race could not be dropped as worst result, but was it the case in 1981?

Any clues?


In my version of results Napa, Lím, U. Melkus and Sarap were excuded from final results for various reasons. So your first appraisal ist most probably right.

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 14:44

Contrary to my habit, I'm a bit late with posting a reply to this thread, as I needed some time to browse all available sources of information about the 1981 CPF. So, what have I found there? The official bulletin of the Central Automotoclub contains the following results table:

Place		Driver		   Country  Round 1 (CZE) Round 2 (POL) Round 3 (USSR) Round 4 (GDR) Round 5 (BUL)   Points
  1	Jiří Moskal			   CZE		3 / 43		4 / 41		1 / 50		 3 / 43		1 / 50	   186
  2	Toomas Napa			  USSR	   6 / 39		1 / 50		2 / 46		 5 / 40		  -		  175
  3	Jiří Červa				 CZE		7 / 38		  -		   7 / 38		10 / 35		2 / 46	   157
  4	Jacek Szmidt			 POL	   12 / 33		8 / 37		  -		   14 / 31		8 / 37	   138
  5	Sandor Kovács			HUN	   13 / 32		  -		  14 / 31		18 / 27		6 / 39	   129
  6	Edgard Lindgren		  USSR	  14 / 31	   11 / 34	   19 / 26		16 / 29	   14 / 31	   125

Russian magazine "Za Rulem" gives absolutely the same final results than Ray's web site: Moskal 186, Napa 175, Červa 157, Kovács 139, Szmidt 138. The top three according to the other magazine, "Avtomotosport", is also Moskal, Napa, Červa. I think this top three must be correct, and the Szmidt/Kovács confusion appeared only due to an ordinary arithmetic error or an erratum. So the only obscure thing is the mentioned Szmidt's cup. Grzegorz, have you seen it yourself?

The book by Zdeněk Čížek was obviously written using the magazines as main sources of information. But don't forget that the 1981 season was full of disqualifications. The magazines used to publish race reports almost forthwith ("Svět motorů", the most widespread Czechoslovak automotive edition, was a weekly) but some disqualified drivers could be rehabilitated later. Perhaps it is worth comparing the articles in "Svět motorů", "Motoristická současnost", and "Stop" with the book and re-calculate the points sums according to those provisional results. Maybe Szmidt's possession of the 3rd place cup has the same origin: at first he was claimed to take a third place overall and later moved to the fourth but the cup has remained in his possession.

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 19:02

Yesterday I received an official 1981 CPF final protocol from Ray Purucker: Moskal 186, Napa 175, Červa 157, Szmidt 138, Kovács 129. I think the question is solved now - except Szmidt's 3rd place cup. Grzegorz wrote that Szmidt himself still doesn't know why he was given it :confused:

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Posted 17 October 2010 - 10:25

Here is an amazing footage of CPF racing: YouTube link

In Hungarian. Other parts can bee seen in the menu to the right of the video (9 in total).

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Posted 17 October 2010 - 14:28

And one more - Minsk, 1975: http://www.youtube.c...player_embedded

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Posted 18 October 2010 - 12:19

Love the Autóversenyzők series Alexander. Some amazing camera angles capturing the action from the stages and tracks. What a bonus the footage of F1 in '79 that I do not recall seeing before, and what was that tipper truck racing about ? ! :up:

Alexy any idea when seat belts were introduced into the friendship cup ? Looks like someones leg hanging out of the #22 Lada at 52 seconds !

Thanks for sharing guys :smoking:


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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:15

No idea about the exact date but seat belts were already in use in 1978, going by some photos that I've seen.

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 07:28

Maybe the drivers seat broke or got loose.

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 07:43

Love the Autóversenyzők series Alexander. Some amazing camera angles capturing the action from the stages and tracks. What a bonus the footage of F1 in '79 that I do not recall seeing before, and what was that tipper truck racing about ? ! :up:

Alexy any idea when seat belts were introduced into the friendship cup ? Looks like someones leg hanging out of the #22 Lada at 52 seconds !

Thanks for sharing guys :smoking:



As far as I understood, the video is about the history of motorsport in Hungary on its way to hosting the F1 Grand Prix. So the truck racing (truck cross) was a part of that history. Such races were very popular in Soviet Union (and still are in Russia and Baltic countries using the same cars!), but I have never known Hungary had truck cross as well.

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 12:56

Is there anyone who speaks Russian or Hungarian who might be able to help ?

If I remember right in 1976(77?) the Soviets invited us to a military-exercise area in the Bakony-mountains in Hungary(I do not remember for the exact location, there were many same places near Gyulafirátót, Hajmáskér, Tapolca, Várpalota...)

Few shots from this event from my private archives >

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It was a kind of 'exhibition' for wider public, Hungary based Soviet military units had a 'local-championship' then with UAZ jeeps and Zil trucks.
Next year(at least in 1978 sure) in Hungary started the local Hungarian truck-cross championship, with teams from the Volán-company(Hungarian state owned haulage contractor then), with about twenty teams from nearly all Hungarian counties...

I wonder if there is an internet site that lists where the events might be held ?


As I know there are no any Net-site or other database about truck-cross behind the 'Iron-Curtain' pre 1990.

Edited by RobertS, 19 October 2010 - 13:59.


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Posted 19 October 2010 - 13:26

Great pictures, RobertS!

You never stop to learn. Now I wonder if any other countries had truck cross as well.

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 13:33

Thank you Robert for the amazing pics and information looks like I'll have to keep my ears very close to the ground if I am ever going to get the chance to see a Lorry X event.

When I was a teenager I saw a funny 'B' movie called 'Hell Drivers' in 'Vista Vision' with several speeded up scenes of similar 'tipper' trucks I never imagined anybody would use similar vehicles in competition for real !

#534 Geza Sury

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 15:06

Here is an amazing footage of CPF racing: YouTube link

In Hungarian. Other parts can bee seen in the menu to the right of the video (9 in total).

Indeed it is in Hungarian. These are the parts of the film 'Autóversenyzők', which means 'Racing drivers'. I have the full film on DVD. (It's not on official DVD, but a conversion from a VHS tape.)


#535 ziepars

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 21:54

Photos from CPF 1970 at Borovaja:
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#536 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 09 November 2010 - 06:23

IMO the best photo of this album is the first one, with two Promots - despite the fact that our knowledge and archives are growing, Polish race cars in the CPF are still poorly known, and each extra photo of them is valuable.

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 10:26

Photos from CPF 1984 at Bikernieki:
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#538 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 10:54

The MTX 1-06 no. 3 still get raced in Poland (see Grzegorz's photos above), and the Estonia-MADI 03 (no. 71) is now back to tracks, too - after 20+ years of oblivion :)

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#539 GrzegorzChyla

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 19:46

Photos from CPF 1984 at Bikernieki:
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Let's see
23 Jiri Micanek
behind him it might be Toomas Napa in Estonia 20, but I think actually Napa was well in front in his brand new Estonia 21?
behind car 77 is what looks like 58 and Kesjar Csaba
3 is Jerzy Mazur's MTX 1-06
4 is Tomasz Jeromin in Promot II
2 is Jerzy Kiełbania in MTX 1-06

car 4 was driven by Mazur in 1983. In 2010 it has returned to him, currently it is being restored.
Mazur did not find his #3 car, but now owns #2 car on photo above.
During september 2010 meeting in Poznan I took a group photo of Kiełbania, Mazur and Jeromin.



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#540 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 06:40

The yellow and white car behind Mičánek's MTX is Alexandr Medvedchenko's Estonia 20 (no. 79). Napa in his Estonia 21M (no. 72) had passed this bend by the moment the photo was taken.

Edited by Alexey Rogachev, 15 December 2010 - 06:40.


#541 nelutzu

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 22:28

hello Alexey, I read over your writing here, and it's a great job....watching with interest http://www.ussr-autosport.ru , but is in russian language, but I still handle ... You do a good job
I'm in Resita, where he developed the Peace and Friendship Cup - 4 years ...

1984 / Peace and Friendship Cup rund -5 Resita 9.9.1984
1986 / Peace and Friendship Cup rund -6 Resita 13.9.1986
1988 / Peace and Friendship Cup rund -2 Resita 29.5.1988
1989 / Peace and Friendship Cup rund -4 Resita 17.9.1989

from these four stages holding some pictures, they are in my city...

1985 / Peace and Friendship Cup rund -5 Galati 15.9.1985
..... but from that of Galati not have much information

many of the riders were and are fellow citizens with me in the same city

...any questions about our drivers,I can answer :wave:





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Posted 15 March 2011 - 01:03

The Cup of Peace and Friendship

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The printing of the race and a few notes of it ...
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Romanian team - Group A - 1300ccm
101 - Nicu Grigoreas /Rumän. /Dacia
103 - Viktor Nicoara /Rumän. /Dacia
104 - Zarnescu Constantin /Rumän. /Dacia
102 - Stefan Jancovici /Rumän. /Dacia
105 - Ciuca Constantin /Rumän. /Dacia
108 - Werner Hirschvogel /Rumän. /Dacia
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Romanian team - Formula Easter - 1300ccm
I believe that there is a mistake, license numbers're not good... must check, or I am wrong :drunk:
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#543 nelutzu

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 01:09

rund -5. Resita( Rum) 9.9.1984

Group A2 - 1300ccm / List
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Formula EASTER / List
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Posted 15 March 2011 - 06:41

Hello nelutzu, welcome to TNF (and particularly to this thread) :wave: Great to find at last a person well informed in the history of the CPF rounds in Romania. As for me, the main unknown thing about Romanian participation in the Cup are still their F. Easter single-seaters. I still don't even know their exact names - there's only very doubtful information. In your files, I see the name "Dacia-EC-1984". Is it trustworthy enough? And does this mean Dacia engines on these cars?

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 07:19

Just wondering, what sort of crowds did these races get? Many thousands or was it a select few with a keen interest?

#546 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 07:41

As to Romania, the races in Resita were extra-popular - there were crowds of people from all over the country. The CPF events in Riga gathered thousands of spectators, too - due to the convenient position of the race circuit, active and skilful advertising, and local people's traditional interest in motor sport. On the contrary, the races in Kiev used to be held per se.

Edited by Alexey Rogachev, 15 March 2011 - 07:44.


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Posted 15 March 2011 - 23:40

As for me, the main unknown thing about Romanian participation in the Cup are still their F. Easter single-seaters. I still don't even know their exact names - there's only very doubtful information.


Yes, the name is right drivers, and license number,only for CPF 1984,
#111 GHERGHEL CONSTANTIN /Rum/ Dacia-CE-84
#111 PETEANU EUGEN /Rum/ Dacia-CE-84
#117 GHEDEON TIBERIU /Rum/ Dacia-CE-84
#120 CIURCIU TIBERIU /Rum/ Lada-CE-84

were assigned numbers as: at 100 -120 for Romanian drivers...
- #111, that he is the champion for the Romanian championship Formula EASTER 1983 ( Gherghel Constantin)
- Vice Champion will receive #112, and so for the next championship winners in Romania ... I hope you understand...
-and as for Touring Gr A2 ... Nicu Grigoras is the champion(#1) for 1983 in Romania, he will receive the CPF number #101

...and "Dacia-CE-84" = Dacia(engine)- CE(Chassis type/ model/ symbol)-84(Cars manufactured in 1984)

FOTO : Cup of Peace and Friendship (Cupa Pacii si Prieteniei) rund -5. Resita( Rum) 9.9.1984
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I have this picture and a slightly higher resolution

Edited by nelutzu, 15 March 2011 - 23:45.


#548 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 16 March 2011 - 08:29

I think that Romanian system of race numbers assignment was the unique one in the CPF - thank you for telling us of it!

If you have any photos of the mentioned Dacia-CE-84 car, could you please post them to this thread? And is it possible to identify the types of Romanian cars on the photos on the previous pages? According to very doubtful info that I have, there were cars called PE-82, KN-84, GT-86, GT-88, NW-88 (all with Lada engines). It is curious to know that the GT was driven by Tiberiu Gedeon, PE by Eugen Peteanu, and so on. So perhaps those letters were related to drivers' names?

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Posted 16 March 2011 - 16:21

I think that Romanian system of race numbers assignment was the unique one in the CPF - thank you for telling us of it!

If you have any photos of the mentioned Dacia-CE-84 car, could you please post them to this thread? And is it possible to identify the types of Romanian cars on the photos on the previous pages? According to very doubtful info that I have, there were cars called PE-82, KN-84, GT-86, GT-88, NW-88 (all with Lada engines). It is curious to know that the GT was driven by Tiberiu Gedeon, PE by Eugen Peteanu, and so on. So perhaps those letters were related to drivers' names?


Same system in Czechoslovakia. Last years champion had car with number 21 and so on.

#550 nelutzu

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Posted 16 March 2011 - 19:14

According to very doubtful info that I have, there were cars called PE-82, KN-84, GT-86, GT-88, NW-88 (all with Lada engines). It is curious to know that the GT was driven by Tiberiu Gedeon, PE by Eugen Peteanu, and so on. So perhaps those letters were related to drivers' names?


In a way you're right... This week I will meet me PONTA MIRCEA and EUGEN PETEANU, will take the right information, and only then I can say with certainty how they were ... ok?
I would not want to post here unverified information....Only then we'll watch photos, and set the car that bore the name..

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :wave:

to find information gonna put some pictures ....


Stage 5. Galati (Rumänien) 15.9.1985
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Record :drunk: 100.000 spectators on the circuit at Galati
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