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#51 Jimmy Piget

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Posted 17 October 2003 - 15:22

IMV, sorry if I ask you again :
who were the winners of all these Czechoslavakian F3 races ?

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#52 IMV

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Posted 17 October 2003 - 19:45

Hi Alexey !

1969 Cup of Peace and Friendship, round 2 (USSR, Minsk)
June, 15
Track: Borovoe
Track length: 4.03 km
Race distance: 22 laps (88.66 km)
Fastest lap: ?
Drivers started: 18
Drivers finished: 12
Race results:
1. Vladimír Hubáèek, CZE, Lotus-41C Cosworth MAE, 40’08.3”
2. Ing.Vladislav Ondøejík, CZE, Lotus-41C Cosworth MAE, 40’09.0”
3. Jaroslav Bobek, CZE, Škoda-F3, 40’34.8”
4. Yuri Andreev, USSR, de Sanctis Cosworth MAE, 40’38.9”
5. Heinz Melkus, DDR, Melkus-67 Wartburg, 41’05.8“
6. Longin Bielak, POL, Promot-67 Cosworth MAE
...
9. Ksawery Frank, POL, Promot - Wartburg
10. Vladimir Grekov, USSR, Estonia-9M Wartburg
...
12. Henri Saarm, USSR, Estonia-9M Wartburg
...
DNF Enn Griffel, USSR, Estonia-9M Wartburg
DNF Gennady Zharkov, USSR, Estonia-9M Wartburg
DNF Zbigniew Sucharda, POL
DNF Józef Kielbania, POL

Teams: 1.CZE (39points), 2.DDR (19), 3.USSR (13), 4.POL (11)


Any additions and corrections? :)
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Sources Czech Svet Motoru26/69 and Motor from Poland from 8.7.1969.

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Posted 17 October 2003 - 20:49

Originally posted by IMV



Dear Jimmy,

here are the winners:
Legend - CZ = Round of Czechoslovak Championship, Int = International Race in Czechoslovakia or in other countries,where took part also Czechoslovak drivers, Int-CPF = Round of CPF, Int+CPF = International race with separate clasification for CPF, Int+CZ = International race with separate clasification for Czechoslovak Championship

1964
17.5. CZ Brno - výstavištì Ing.Gajdoš, CZE, Delfín Tatra
5.7. Int+CZ Jièín - Cena Prachovských skal M.Brettschneider, DDR, Melkus Wartburg
12.7. Int+CZ Piešany Byczkowski, DDR, Melkus Wartburg
25.7. Int-CPF Sachsenring Byczkowski, DDR, Melkus Wartburg
26.7. Int Sachsenring Byczkowski, DDR, Melkus Wartburg
22.8. Int-CPF Brno Byczkowski, DDR, Melkus Wartburg
23.8. Int Brno Mattila, FIN, Lotus
13.9. Int Štramberk Valenta, CZE, Mustang Wartburg
1965
1.5. CZ Brno - výstavištì Hubáèek, CZE, Melkus Wartburg
9.5. CZ Most V.Bobek, CZE, Škoda F3
23.5. Int Jièín - Cena Prachovských skal Mattila, FIN, Cooper T76
30.5. Int Piešany Byczkowski, DDR, Melkus Wartburg
18.7. Int+CPF Sachsenring Chrichton-Stuart, GB, Brabham
25.7. Int-CPF Brno Melkus, DDR, Melkus Wartburg
5.9. Int+CZ Štramberk Valenta, CZE, Mustang Wartburg
3.10. Int+CZ Strahov Melkus, DDR, Melkus Wartburg
1966
5.6. CZ Štramberk J.Bobek, CZE, Škoda F3
3.or 10.7. Int+CPF Budapest
31.7. Int Jièín - Cena Prachovských skal J.Bobek, CZE, Škoda F3
14.8. Int Piešany Mattila, FIN, Cooper T76
14.8. Int+CPF Schleiz Jankowski, POL, RAK Cosworth
4.9. Int Brno Dubler, CH, Brabham
18.9. CZ Most J.Bobek, CZE, Škoda F3
25.9. Int-CPF Strahov Jankowski, POL, RAK Cosworth
1967
1.5. CZ Brno - výstavištì J.Bobek, CZE, Škoda F3
21.5. Int-CPF Györ Melkus, DDR, Melkus Wartburg
4.6. Int-CPF Krakow Fousek, CZE, Škoda F3
18.6. Int-CPF Štramberk J.Bobek, CZE, Škoda F3
18.6. CZ Štramberk Fousek, CZE, Škoda F3
9.7. Int Jièín - Cena Prachovských skal V.Bobek, CZE, Škoda F3
30.7. Int+CZ Piešany Hubáèek, CZE, Lotus 41C Cosworth
20.8. CZ Prievidza Hubáèek, CZE, Lotus 41C Cosworth
3.9. Int-CPF Brno Hubáèek, CZE, Lotus 41C Cosworth
3.9. Int+CZ Brno Mohr, D, De Sanctis
10.9. Int Autobahnspinne Dresden Melkus, DDR, Melkus Wartburg
1968
10.5. CZ Havíøov - Tìrlická pøehrada Hubáèek, CZE, Lotus 41C Cosworth
26.5. Int Bernauer Schleifrennen U.Melkus, DDR, Melkus Wartburg
2.6. Int-CPF Szczecin Fousek, CZE, Škoda F3
9.6. CZ Rosice Hubáèek, CZE, Lotus 41C Cosworth
23.6. CZ Štramberk Hubáèek, CZE, Lotus 41C Cosworth
23.6. Int-CPF Štramberk Fousek, CZE, Škoda F3
21.7. Int-CPF Riga Melkus, DDR, Melkus Wartburg
28.7. Int Piešany Ing.Ondøejík, CZE, Delfín II Ford
11.8. CZ Prievidza Ing.Ondøejík, CZE, Delfín II Ford
18.8. Int Brno Wissel, S, Tecno 69
1969
27.4. CZ Olomouc Hubáèek, CZE, Lotus 41C Cosworth
11.5. CZ Havíøov - Tìrlická pøehrada Hubáèek, CZE, Lotus 41C Cosworth
11.5. Int-CPF Havíøov - Tìrlická pøehrada Hubáèek, CZE, Lotus 41C Cosworth
25.5. Int Brno Kottulinski, S, Lotus 59 Ford-Nova
15.6. Int-CPF Minsk Hubáèek, CZE, Lotus 41C Cosworth
29.6. Int-CPF Szczecin Ing.Ondøejík, CZE, Lotus 41C Cosworth
27.7. Int Piešany Svenson, S, Brabham
24.8. Int Jièín - Cena ÈSR a Cena Prachovských skal Hubáèek, CZE, Lotus 41C Cosworth
7.9. CZ Štramberk Ing.Ondøejík, CZE, Lotus 41C Cosworth
14.9. Int-CPF Autobahnspinne Dresden Melkus, DDR, Melkus Wartburg
28.9. CZ Most Ing.Ondøejík, CZE, Lotus 41C Cosworth
1970
26.4. CZ Olomouc Hubáèek, CZE, Lotus 41C Cosworth
9.5. Int-CPF Havíøov - Tìrlická pøehrada Ing.Ondøejík, CZE, Lotus 41C Cosworth
14.5. Int-CPF Minsk Ing.Ondøejík, CZE, Lotus 41C Cosworth
24.5. Int Brno Dubler, CH, Chevron B17
21.6. Int Jièín - Cena ÈSR a Cena Prachovských skal Ing.Ondøejík, CZE, Lotus 41C Cosworth 28.6. Int Szczecin Axelsson, S, Lotus 59
28.6. Int-CPF Szczecin Hubáèek, CZE, Lotus 41C Cosworth
12.7. CZ Klatovy Ing.Ondøejík, CZE, Lotus 41C Cosworth
8.8. Int-CPF Schleiz Ing.Ondøejík, CZE, Lotus 41C Cosworth
6.9. Int Autobahnspinne Dresden
13.9. CZ Štramberk Hubáèek, CZE, Lotus 41C Cosworth
20.9. CZ Most


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#54 Jimmy Piget

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Posted 18 October 2003 - 08:24

IMV, dekuji ti.

One more question : about the Olomouc circuit. Was it the same as the Ecce Homo used in the 1950s ? Or another one ?

Ahoj
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#55 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 18 October 2003 - 09:17

Dear Michal,

Many thanks for your additions & corrections! :clap: Now we have an information about 13 of 18 entries of the 1969 Minsk CPF event. 5 drivers stay an obscure matter. I think one of them was Czechoslovakian Vaclav Bobek at the wheel of Skoda-F3. As Borovaya (this is the correct name of the track) was a circuit where powerful cars had an advantage, V. Bobek would have been among top four or top five drivers if he had finished. As he wasn't, I think he didn't finish the race.

The rest of the entries possibly were drivers from East Germany. They were driving the Wartburg-powered cars, so they couldn't reach any high places. I think 7th, 8th, and 11th places were taken by them, and one German driver retired. Were there any automotive magazines in East Germany in the late 1960s? Perhaps fines can help us... :confused:

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Posted 18 October 2003 - 09:27

BTW: are you sure that Ondrejik's first name was Vladislav?

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Posted 18 October 2003 - 09:52

Originally posted by Alexey Rogachev
Were there any automotive magazines in East Germany in the late 1960s? Perhaps fines can help us... :confused:

Sorry, can't help as of yet! :(


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Posted 18 October 2003 - 11:10

6.9.1970 Autobahnspinne Dresden Kottulinski, S, Lotus 59 Ford

Originally posted by IMV



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Posted 18 October 2003 - 11:15

Originally posted by Alexey Rogachev
BTW: are you sure that Ondrejik's first name was Vladislav?


Yes, I am. His name was many times screw-up also in start lists and results from that time, but I am in touch with his brother and I have in my archive also copies of by his hand filled and signed entry lists for international races in Jièín 1967,69 and 70. Michal

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#60 IMV

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Posted 18 October 2003 - 11:22

Originally posted by Jimmy Piget
IMV, dekuji ti.

One more question : about the Olomouc circuit. Was it the same as the Ecce Homo used in the 1950s ? Or another one ?

Ahoj
Jimmy


Hi Jimmy, no. Although Ecce Homo in Šternberk is near Olomouc (16km), this was a city-racetrack. Michal

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Posted 18 October 2003 - 11:27

Originally posted by Alexey Rogachev
....5 drivers stay an obscure matter. I think one of them was Czechoslovakian Vaclav Bobek at the wheel of Skoda-F3. .....


Dear Alexey, I also guess, that there was other one (Václav Bobek) maybe both (with Miroslav Fousek) Škoda factory drivers. I do some research and in next 14 days I will maybe know more...
Michal

#62 Jimmy Piget

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Posted 18 October 2003 - 14:19

Czechoslovakian circuits.
Thanks, Michale, for the answer on Olomouc.
Some other circuits are "mysteries" for me :
- Most 1965-1969. Obviously, it was not yet the present autodrome. So, a street circuit ? An aerodrome venue ?
- Same question (streets or aerodrome) for Klatovy 1970, Prievidza 1967-1968 & Rosice 1968.
- Prahov 1965-1966. Was it in Prague ? So, a street circuit, a circuit within a park, an aerodrome ?
- Can't find Stramberk in my atlas, nor Koprivnice. Where are these towns located (which province) ?

Czechoslovakian champions
Who won the titles of 1964, 1965, 1966 (J. Bobek ?), 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970 ?

Friendship cup champions
Who won the title in 1963, in 1966 ?

That's a lot of questions, anyway, thanks to answer if you mind

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Posted 18 October 2003 - 14:33

Races in Most were in street circuit.
Same in Prague round Strahov stadium
Stramberk in neat little city near to Koprivnice, both in North Moravia (maybe Novy Jicin is in your atlas?)

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Posted 18 October 2003 - 19:33

Originally posted by Jimmy Piget

- Same question (streets or aerodrome) for Klatovy 1970, Prievidza 1967-1968 & Rosice 1968.

All of these were a combination of city streets and public roads. The first one is today well known as "Èinovský okruh", the Special Stage 1 of international Rally Šumava (but direction of drive is now clockwise).


Czechoslovakian champions
Who won the titles of 1964, 1965, 1966 (J. Bobek ?), 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970 ?

1964 Ing.Jiøí GAJDOŠ, Delfín Tatra
1965 Vladimír HUBÁÈEK, Melkus Wartburg
1966 Jaroslav BOBEK, ŠKODA F3
1967 Vladimír HUBÁÈEK, Melkus Wartburg/Lotus 41C Cosworth
1968 Vladimír HUBÁÈEK, Lotus 41C Cosworth
1969 Vladimír HUBÁÈEK, Lotus 41C Cosworth
1970 Vladimír HUBÁÈEK, Lotus 41C Cosworth
F3 1600ccm
1971 Vladimír HUBÁÈEK, Lotus 41C Cosworth
1972 Ing.Jaroslav MLÈEK, MGK Wartburg


Friendship cup champions
Who won the title in 1963, in 1966 ?

...a question for Alexey...

Michal

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Posted 18 October 2003 - 21:32

Friendship cup
1963 Formula Junior - Heinz Melkus (Melkus-Wartburg), national federation: DDR
1966 Formula 3 - Heinz Melkus (Melkus-Wartburg), national federation: DDR

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Posted 18 October 2003 - 22:25

IMV wrote : < 1971 Vladimír HUBÁÈEK, Lotus 41C Cosworth
1972 Ing.Jaroslav MLÈEK, MGK Wartburg >>

What ! Champions of 1600 F3 in Czechoslovakia ? What were the races ?

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Posted 19 October 2003 - 05:59

Even the rules was changen, practically all car was 1000 ccm (lack of suitable engines)


1. Vladimír Hubáèek CS 45
2. František Janotka CS 39
3. T. Smatlánek CS 36
4. J. Mlèek CS 33
5. St. Votava CS 30
6. M. Polášek CS 26
7. Jaroslav Koval CS 16
8. J. Husták CS 0 14
9. Jiøí Rejman CS 0 14
10. Václav Lím CS 0 13

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Posted 19 October 2003 - 06:03

Even the rules was changen, practically all car was 1000 ccm (lack of suitable engines)

in 1971 i have two events in Most and one in Havirov (probably was more)
and final table:

1. Vladimír Hubáèek 45
2. František Janotka 39
3. T. Smatlánek 36
4. J. Mlèek 33
5. St. Votava 30
6. M. Polášek 26
7. Jaroslav Koval 16
8. J. Husták 14
9. Jiøí Rejman 14
10. Václav Lím 13

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Posted 19 October 2003 - 11:12

Looking at the 1971 championship table, I notice that driver Václav Lím. Was he related with Hanus Lím who won F3 races in 1999-2000 with Eufra & Dallara cars ?

Any other information on these Most & Havirov races (date ? winner ?) ?
On 1972 events ?

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Posted 19 October 2003 - 12:08

Originally posted by Jimmy Piget
IMV wrote : <1971 Vladimír HUBÁÈEK, Lotus 41C Cosworth
1972 Ing.Jaroslav MLÈEK, MGK Wartburg >>

What ! Champions of 1600 F3 in Czechoslovakia ? What were the races ?


1971
16.5. Most Vladimír Hubáèek, Lotus 41C Cosworth
13.6. Havíøov Ing.Jaroslav Mlèek, MGK Wartburg
5.9. Most František Janotka, Arcus Wartburg
19.9. Piešany Vladimír Hubáèek, Lotus 41C Cosworth
3.10. Havíøov Vladimír Hubáèek, Lotus 41C Cosworth

1972
8.5. Most x
18.6. Havíøov František Janotka, Arcus II. Fiat
3.9. Most Ing.Jaroslav Mlèek, MGK Wartburg
17.9. Piešany Ing.Jaroslav Mlèek, MGK Wartburg

The cars were in principle the same, only F.Janotka prepared for 1972 new car fitted with Fiat 2xOHC engine, E.Bertoli fitted to his car Alfa Romeo 1600ccm engine and the rest used slightly rebored Wartburg (up to 1100 and 1200ccm) and Ford (up to 1219ccm) engines.

Václav Lím was later many times champion of Czechoslovakian championship and CPF in Formel Easter races. Hanuš Lím is his son.

Michal

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Posted 26 October 2003 - 10:10

1970
20.9. Most
Hubáèek, CZE, Lotus 41C Cosworth

#72 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 27 October 2003 - 09:52

Originally posted by IMV


Dear Alexey, I also guess, that there was other one (Václav Bobek) maybe both (with Miroslav Fousek) Škoda factory drivers. I do some research and in next 14 days I will maybe know more...
Michal


Michal,

Definitely there were three Skodas in the 1969 Minsk event - I discovered it recently. So I think two of them retired, being driven by Vaclav Bobek & Miroslav Fousek.

I have started searching for the 1970 Minsk CPF round, and the preliminary results are as follows:
1. Vladislav Ondrejik
2. Yuri Andreev
3. Heinz Melkus
4. Ulrich Melkus
5. Peter Findeisen
6. Henri Saarm
7. Ksawery Frank
8. Jozef Kielbania
DNF Vladimir Hubacek lap 13

I hope I'll find much more on this race, but... a bit later ;) I'm still working at the 1969 Soviet race results...

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Posted 06 November 2003 - 20:12

Originally posted by Alexey Rogachev

Definitely there were three Skodas in the 1969 Minsk event - I discovered it recently.


Hi Alexey, after receiving some materials from Skoda factory (unfortunately no results, but I am trying other source...) I can confirm that all three Skoda drivers took part in both (Riga 68´and Minsk 69´) races.
Michal

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Posted 02 December 2003 - 07:36

I have finished searching for the extra information on the 1970 Minsk CPF round, having found almost nothing. I have managed to find only few things:

1. Date: 7th of June
2. Race distance: 22 laps
3. 14th place was taken by Enn Griffel (Estonia-9M Wartburg)
4. Vladimir Hubacek retired due to engine problems, and perhaps he did after 17 laps, not 13.

That's all! Can anyone add anything to this?

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Posted 02 December 2003 - 11:17

Points system in the Cup of Peace and Friendship:
1964-1965: 10, 8, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0.5.
1966: 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1.
1967: 8, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0.8, 0.6, 0.4, 0.3, 0.2, 0.1.
1968: 9, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0.9, 0.6, 0.4, 0.3, 0.2, 0.1.
1969-1970: 15, 13, 11, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
1972: 30, 25, 21, 19, 17, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
1973-1989: 50, 46, 43, 41, 40, 39, 38, 37, 36, 35, etc., with one dropped score.

But you probably knew this already...

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Posted 02 December 2003 - 11:27

Obviously taken from Darren Galpin's GEL Motorsport? :lol:

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Posted 02 December 2003 - 13:32

Not quite. As this information was entirely new for me, I just started googling around and found this:

http://digilander.li...nships-FSCC.htm.

Probably common stuff for you, but one learns every day, it appears...
Great thread, BTW!

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Posted 03 December 2003 - 21:31

Originally posted by Alexey Rogachev
I have finished searching for the extra information on the 1970 Minsk CPF round, having found almost nothing. I have managed to find only few things:

1. Date: 7th of June
2. Race distance: 22 laps
3. 14th place was taken by Enn Griffel (Estonia-9M Wartburg)
4. Vladimir Hubacek retired due to engine problems, and perhaps he did after 17 laps, not 13.

That's all! Can anyone add anything to this?


Hi Alexey, Svìt Motorù 25/70 says only that winner was Ing.Ondøejík on Lotus - Ford car, teams : 1.DDR, 2.CZE, 3.USSR

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Posted 03 December 2003 - 22:25

Originally posted by Mischa Bijenhof
Points system in the Cup of Peace and Friendship:
1964-1965: 10, 8, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0.5.


???
Svìt motorù magazine, issue 17/64 in its report from CPF Sachsenring race says: " From every race are for CPF counted points acquired by two best drivers from that country, and for 1. place is 10 points, for 2. place 8, for 3. place 6, further on 5, 4, 3, 2 and 1 point. Totally have points 8 drivers......
Michal

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#80 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 04 December 2003 - 07:52

Does anyone have the overall 1970 CPF results with points? Are there drivers whose scores were with 0.5 pts? Perhaps 0.5 pt was given for the fastest lap?

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Posted 04 December 2003 - 08:22

Perhaps 0.5 pt was given for the fastest lap?



certainly not...

#82 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 04 December 2003 - 13:53

Originally posted by Mischa Bijenhof
Not quite. As this information was entirely new for me, I just started googling around and found this:

http://digilander.li...nships-FSCC.htm.

Probably common stuff for you, but one learns every day, it appears...

Wasn't all data published there taken from Darren's pages?

Great thread, BTW!


Many thanks! :D

#83 Darren Galpin

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Posted 04 December 2003 - 13:59

It was - it even says so on http://www.autosovie...ain-english.htm , The Soviet Automotive Championships section.

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Posted 04 December 2003 - 22:25

Originally posted by Alexey Rogachev
Does anyone have the overall 1970 CPF results with points? Are there drivers whose scores were with 0.5 pts? Perhaps 0.5 pt was given for the fastest lap?


Hi Alexey, I have :

1. Ing.Ondøejík 45 points
2. Andrejev 37 points
3. Hubáèek
4. H.Melkus 28 points
5. Frank 24 points
6. U.Melkus 24 points

Teams : 1. CZE 104, 2 DDR 86, 3. POL 65, 4. USSR 55 points

Source : German newspaper "Volkswacht" from 10.8.1970

Michal

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Posted 05 December 2003 - 11:52

Thank you very much, Michal! There are no drivers with 0.5 pt among the top-six drivers, however it proves nothing...

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Posted 06 December 2003 - 10:01

Point system in 1970: 15, 13, 11, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
No 0.5 pt!

Minsk 1970
1. Ondrejik
2. Andreev
3. H. Melkus
4. U. Melkus
etc.

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Posted 13 December 2003 - 09:51

The more detailed 1970 overall results can be found on this page: http://www.puru.de/ddrclassic.html (thanks to Ray Purucker for the link!).

2anjakub: Andrzej, you're quite right - there are neither nations' nor drivers' scores with 0.5 pt :)

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Posted 13 December 2003 - 10:06

I have just noticed this thread.

"Cup of Peace and Friendship" :rolleyes:

Now how could I have possibly known that this was some Soviet (pron. "savyyet" of course) effort?

They really were a scream, those soviets.

Back in the 1980s when many in Britain were chanting: "No to Cruise. No to Pershing" I had a sticker on my car saying "No SS20s in Britain".

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Posted 05 March 2004 - 11:04

1971 Cup of Peace and Friendship, round 1 (USSR, Minsk)

Date: May, 30
Track: Borovaya
Track length: 4.030 km
Race distance: 22 laps = 88.660 km
Drivers started: 17
Race results:
1. Heinz Melkus GDR Melkus-71 Wartburg
2. Ulrich Melkus GDR Melkus-71 Wartburg
3. Peter Krause GDR SEG Wartburg
4. Vladimir Grekov USSR Estonia-16M Wartburg
5. Enn Griffel USSR Estonia-9M Wartburg
6. Lev Shuvalov USSR Estonia-16M Lada
DNF Anatoly Sebeikin USSR Estonia-16M Moskvich (5 laps, injection system failure)
Other entries (results are unknown) :
Madis Laiv USSR Estonia-16M Moskvich
Henri Saarm USSR Estonia-16M Moskvich
Nikolay Ivanov USSR Leningrad-2 Moskvich

I'm afraid that this time anjakub, sat, and IMV wouldn't be able to add anything to these poor results. In 1971, Polish and Czechoslovakian drivers didn't take part in Cup of Peace and Friendship, so I don't think that 'Motor' and 'Svet motoru' had paid any attention to it that year...

Few words about the variety of engines. In 1971, both old 1000 cc F3 and new 1600 cc F3 cars were eligible for racing in CPF. Polish and Czechoslovakian teams couldn't take part in the 1971 CPF as their Cosworth-powered and Holbay-powered cars had 'worn out', as well as de Sanctis Cosworth driven by Soviet Yuri Andreev in 1969-70. German team, that had stood by Wartburg units, didn't have any problems. They increased the engines volume up to 1100 cc, getting the capacity of 80 hp. Soviet team resorted to various tricks. For instance, Enn Griffel stood by his old Wartburg-powered Estonia-9M, and Vladimir Grekov installed the Wartburg unit on the new Estonia-16M chassis (the original engine of 16M was 1478 cc Moskvich-412). Anatoly Sebeikin equipped his car with the fuel injection system, but it was very unreliable. Works VAZ driver Lev Shuvalov equipped his 16M with VAZ-2101 (Lada) engine (1198 cc), which was totally unaugmented and thus delivered only 64 hp at 5400 rpm. Also I have to notice Nikolay Ivanov who was driving the Moskvich-powered Leningrad-2, the first Soviet single-seater with wedge shaped body and both front & rear wings.

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Posted 25 May 2004 - 19:25

After the long interval, I have resumed my search for the race results of Soviet CPF rounds. The 1972 event wasn't widely covered by magazines & newspapers. Even though Czechoslovakian drivers made a one-two in that race, 'Svet motoru' didn't pay any attention to it. Here are the results that I have found:

1972 Cup of Peace and Friendship (round 2, USSR, Minsk)
F. Easter
Date: June, 4
Track: Borovaya
Track length: 4.030 km
Race distance: 16 laps = 64.480 km
Drivers started: 16
Race results:
1. Jiøi Rosicky CZE Metalex 101 Škoda
2. Karel Jilek CZE Metalex 101 Škoda
3. Wolfgang Küther GDR Küther Eigenbau Wartburg
4. Ulrich Melkus GDR Melkus 71 Wartburg
5. Klaus Peter Krause GDR Melkus 71 Wartburg
6. Anatoly Alkhimovich USSR Estonia 16M Lada
7. Heinz Melkus GDR Melkus 71 Wartburg
8. Enn Griffel USSR Estonia 9M Wartburg
...
10. Jükk Reintam USSR Estonia 18 Lada

As usual, any additions and corrections (race times & average speeds especially) are welcome.

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Posted 28 May 2004 - 21:06

Originally posted by Alexey Rogachev
After the long interval, I have resumed my search for the race results of Soviet CPF rounds. The 1972 event wasn't widely covered by magazines & newspapers. Even though Czechoslovakian drivers made a one-two in that race, 'Svet motoru' didn't pay any attention to it. Here are the results that I have found:

1972 Cup of Peace and Friendship (round 2, USSR, Minsk)
F. Easter
Date: June, 4
Track: Borovaya
Track length: 4.030 km
Race distance: 16 laps = 64.480 km
Drivers started: 16
Race results:
1. Jiøi Rosicky CZE Metalex 101 Škoda
2. Karel Jilek CZE Metalex 101 Škoda
3. Wolfgang Küther GDR Küther Eigenbau Wartburg
4. Ulrich Melkus GDR Melkus 71 Wartburg
5. Klaus Peter Krause GDR Melkus 71 Wartburg
6. Anatoly Alkhimovich USSR Estonia 16M Lada
7. Heinz Melkus GDR Melkus 71 Wartburg
8. Enn Griffel USSR Estonia 9M Wartburg
...
10. Jükk Reintam USSR Estonia 18 Lada

As usual, any additions and corrections (race times & average speeds especially) are welcome.


Other starters:
Jaroslav Bobek CZE Metalex 1-01 Škoda
Vaclav Bobek ml. CZE Metalex 1-01 Škoda

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#92 Vitesse2

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Posted 28 May 2004 - 22:18

Alexey, Michal: I know I'm on shaky ground here, but shouldn't at least some of those Metalex cars be type MTX1-02? Repa's book shows the 1-01 as a Formula Skoda car, 1-02 as Formula Easter. And is the second-place man Jilka rather than Jilek?

#93 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 29 May 2004 - 07:42

I guess that 'Jilka' was the dative case of 'Jilek' in Czech language. I believe that Michal can say exactly if it was.

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Posted 29 May 2004 - 10:59

shouldn't at least some of those Metalex cars be type MTX1-02?



MTX 1-02 was raced from 1973 on.



In Minsk 1972 also started Gennadiy Zharkov in Estonia 16M.

#95 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 29 May 2004 - 12:59

Thank you, sat! Could you please explain me one more thing: what was MTX 1107, that was raced by a number of Czechoslovakian drivers in 1973? Was it a modified version of 1-01 or a completely new car?

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Posted 29 May 2004 - 22:04

Alexey: I think the "1107" refers to the capacity of the Skoda 110 engine fitted to the 1-01 - 1107cc. It's not easy trying to read a book in Czech when your knowledge of the language begins and ends with "Praha" and "Brno" :rolleyes: but I think that's what it says! As far as I can work it out, the 1-02 came with a Skoda 120S engine (1172cc?), but there seems to be a mention of 1198cc VAZ 2101 engines being fitted (later(?) or as an alternative?)

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Posted 29 May 2004 - 22:34

For someone like me, completely ignorant on motorsports in Eastern Europe in those decades, this thread is very educative! Keep it rolling.

Cheers,


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#98 Alexey Rogachev

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Posted 30 May 2004 - 05:02

Quite right! Škoda engines were of 1107 cc capacity, and VAZ 2101 (Lada) were of 1198 cc. Later, from 1974 onwards, the modified VAZ 21011 units appeared, which had 1293 cc capacity. As F. Easter limited the capacity by 1300 cc, almost all cars were equipped with these engines in the late 70s.

BTW: what book have you mentioned? Isn't it 'Automobilovy Pohar miru a přatelstvi' by Zdenek Čizek?

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Posted 30 May 2004 - 11:11

Originally posted by Alexey Rogachev
Quite right! Škoda engines were of 1107 cc capacity, and VAZ 2101 (Lada) were of 1198 cc. Later, from 1974 onwards, the modified VAZ 21011 units appeared, which had 1293 cc capacity. As F. Easter limited the capacity by 1300 cc, almost all cars were equipped with these engines in the late 70s.

BTW: what book have you mentioned? Isn't it 'Automobilovy Pohar miru a přatelstvi' by Zdenek Čizek?

Premiéry Nadšeni by Karel Repa, published by Nadas of Prague, 1989. ISBN 80 7030 031 0

Bought it blind on eBay a few weeks ago.

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Posted 30 May 2004 - 14:37

Originally posted by Vitesse2
I think the "1107" refers to the capacity of the Skoda 110 engine fitted to the 1-01 - 1107cc.


It is right. MTX 1-01 = MTX 1107.
The short story about MTX 1-01 (Formula Skoda).
Engine was from Skoda 110.
The authors of cars project: engineers Kleimond and Pauer.
First design in the end of 1969.
Beginning of the building in 12 January 1970, first test in 2 May.
23 May 1970 oficial presentation at Grand Prix Brno.
1 december 1970 start of building the first series of 12 cars.
16 May 1971 first race Formula Skoda in Most.