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#2851 rhegra

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 18:12

Does anybody have more informations about the Old Mercedes Transporter of Ross Cheevers Volour Racing? Any period pictures? Would be great. The Transporter in these days: http://www.sportscar...edes-benz-1113/

Edited by rhegra, 29 April 2013 - 18:12.


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#2852 BRG

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 19:27

IMHO the driver deserves a bravery award...front wheel drive and 10 inch wheels (probably with dodgy cross-plies) does not make for the ideal tow-master! :confused:

Not really. I can't imagine that the outfit could do much more than 30mph flat out.

#2853 eldougo

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 06:33

My first thought after looking at the photo that is an ex Project Four truck used in the 70,s ?

Edited by eldougo, 30 April 2013 - 06:33.


#2854 rhegra

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 09:12

Great hint, thank you very much eldougo :clap: . I found this picture on the internet
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See the champion stickers, seems to be the same.
Any more known pictures of the project four transporter? Another question: why it was blue? Any connection with Gulf? Or the colors of the former Rondel Racing Team?

Edited by rhegra, 30 April 2013 - 09:16.


#2855 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 09:58

Hmmmm....OK, I thought the raised pinky and the cuppa was a dead give-away to some hijinks...

IMHO the driver deserves a bravery award...front wheel drive and 10 inch wheels (probably with dodgy cross-plies) does not make for the ideal tow-master! :confused:

I am with you. Downright bloody dangerous as well as stupid. Where were the police?

#2856 Graham Clayton

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 08:06

Steve Masterton's transporter and Ford Capri, from the late 1970's/early 80's

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#2857 arttidesco

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 08:39

Another question: why it was blue? Or the colors of the former Rondel Racing Team?


Bingo :wave:

#2858 oldclassiccar

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 08:35

Prior to the arrival of the Dodge truck, this modified Ford V8 was used by Dennis Poore for lugging the heavy trailer around with his 8C-35 on board.

 

Does anyone know what happened to the Ford? Is it still around somewhere?

 

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thanks, Richard.

 



#2859 Graham Clayton

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 11:04

This is pretty cool:

 

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Source: http://www.macsmotor...gine-Buick-.jpg



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#2860 bradbury west

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 15:48

The new issue of MS landed this morning. On p122 in the You WereThere bit from the 1962 Gold cup at Oulton there is a shot of what seems to be a slightly out of focus Cooper Cars Austin K8 van. I have felt reasonably sure of their vehicles, and in Bjorn's book, p124, there are shots of a much larger Austin near Monaco in 1959. I understood that to be a larger , lorry based vehicle. The narrative in the book suggests possibly a 6 pot petrol engine in the lorry chassis. I was not aware that the K8 had such long, coach built , body options, nor twin rear wheels with its 25cwt payload capacity
Is this a Cooper vehicle of which we were unaware, or simply one of which we have not seen photographs.
Or have I got it all wrong? I have not checked in DCN's Cooper tome, nor John Cooper's as I am sure I would have recalled mention of a K8.
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#2861 Roger Clark

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 17:37

They only entered one car so may not have needed the same transporter as for Grands Prix.



#2862 bradbury west

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 18:56

If I had thought about it I could have had a good look at it when I was there.......
Perhaps it was retained a local single car carrier, testing etc, carrying a Mini or the Twinny perhaps. It would certainly have been long in the tooth by then, but compact and versatile. Unusual though for Cooper Snr keeping more kit than he needed, so could have been a garage runabout too.
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#2863 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 08:10

That transporter was from sometime in 1954 under the Beverley Motors , Coombe Road,New Malden team . A team I have found nothing on. A Picture in the book 1950's Motorsport in colour by Wainright shows a bit of it on page 22. This is from the Godwood 11/4 race in 1955. Again I have found no evidence of that team other than the picture. The car was at Cooper Car Co. from at least 1958 for their F1 campaign etc. From 1959 with the wellknown Cooper Car Co. text on the sides. It was build up by Marshall of Cambridge (those who made the BRM transporter for 1959)on the 2 ton Austin K8 chassis . The K8 van was very popular , also called the "3 way" van. Many variants were seen , like as a Lorry(short and lengthened versions) , a bus ( Plaxton) with spec. bodywork ,Ambulances etc. I also recently had a Picture which by the looks showed it as a tractor & semitrailer unit. The ex Beverley/ Cooper Car Co. was used throughout 1962 mainly for F1 as Coopers main transporter.

#2864 oldclassiccar

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 10:15

Just a quick note to advise that (RIP) David Cross' second book on circuit/race support vehicles, Around the Circuit, is now available at Dalton Watson.

 

RJ



#2865 BRG

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 21:03

That transporter was from sometime in 1954 under the Beverley Motors , Coombe Road,New Malden team . A team I have found nothing on. 

Now I am intrigued, as someone brought up in New Maldener.

 

I have never heard of a Beverley Motors but I was only 4 yo back then!  it is definitely a local name - there is a Brook and a Park of that name in the town.  Along the southern part of Coombe Road between the parish church and the station, there are a number of newish buildings and I can't really recall what was there previously, but some sort of car business is quite possible. There is a Shell fuel station which might have once been a garage.  North of the church, it is unlikely that there were ever any business premises except a pub and a golf club.

 

I would be most interested to hear more about this if anyone knows anything.



#2866 oldclassiccar

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 14:03

In the spirit of keeping the thread updated with transporter-related stories, a link to the Ecurie Ecosse Commer sold yesterday.

 

http://www.bonhams.c...s/20934/lot/11/

 

By all accounts it'll be leaving these shores for a distant land, sadly, but at least it'll have a couple of E.E. cars for company.

 

RJ



#2867 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 03 December 2013 - 02:25

In the spirit of keeping the thread updated with transporter-related stories, a link to the Ecurie Ecosse Commer sold yesterday.
 
http://www.bonhams.c...s/20934/lot/11/
 
By all accounts it'll be leaving these shores for a distant land, sadly, but at least it'll have a couple of E.E. cars for company.
 
RJ

Sorry, they have lost me. Near $3.2 MILLION for a old Commer. Sure it has history which to me might make it worth 50k.No history and it is worth $500! Either someone has far more money than sense or the figures are horribly wrong. What is it going to cost to buy racing cars to carry in it? And after all said and done who the hell would ever want to drive it more than about 100km. Probably flat out at 90k. Either a Humber Snipe engine or the dreaded Knocker engine. Give me the petrol everytime but at about 4mpg you will have to save up to fill the tank!

Edited by Lee Nicolle, 03 December 2013 - 02:27.


#2868 Lola5000

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Posted 03 December 2013 - 04:01

Sorry, they have lost me. Near $3.2 MILLION for a old Commer. Sure it has history which to me might make it worth 50k.No history and it is worth $500! Either someone has far more money than sense or the figures are horribly wrong. What is it going to cost to buy racing cars to carry in it? And after all said and done who the hell would ever want to drive it more than about 100km. Probably flat out at 90k. Either a Humber Snipe engine or the dreaded Knocker engine. Give me the petrol everytime but at about 4mpg you will have to save up to fill the tank!

Then there is the noise of a knocker,whats this make Moffs old International worth $6.0 million OZ?



#2869 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 03 December 2013 - 06:00

Then there is the noise of a knocker,whats this make Moffs old International worth $6.0 million OZ?

Moffats old Acco is still a practical transporter, that makes it worth very little probably.
And a knocker noisy? Probably not compared with a v6 GMC,,,, though the GMC is very quick at least.

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 09:39

I'm not going through 58 pages now to check if this has been postet before or not. Just found it on fb.

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Does that count as transporter?



#2871 Tim Murray

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 10:53

I'm not going through 58 pages now to check if this has been postet before or not.

 

Indeed it has - first posted here, then discussed and identified in subsequent posts as Stuart Lewis Evans at Crystal Palace in May 1956.



#2872 MCS

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 12:36

That is quite incredible.  An amazing and quite wonderful photograph with the man himself steering!

 

But no sign of his helper at the time - well, the other one, if you know what I mean?


Edited by MCS, 04 December 2013 - 13:00.


#2873 Bob Riebe

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 20:33

This is pretty cool:

 

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Source: http://www.macsmotor...gine-Buick-.jpg

TV Tommy Ivo, the leading gent in making drag racing the spectacle it once was and to a degree still is.

 

There used to be some incredible match races between dissimilar cars.



#2874 oldirish

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 04:50

I have really enjoyed looking through this site.  Sadly, some of the photos in posts from previous years are no longer viewable.  Therefore, I apologize in advance if this subject has been covered before. 

 

I am looking for images of the means of transport that the Arciero Brothers used for their Lotus 19.  I am not particular about which race, but the preference would be at Daytona in 1962.  Thanks for any help you can offer.



#2875 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 20:18

With only one post in nearly 3 months , I thought I'd tell you I am still looking for transporters , and if you cannot or do not dare to show Pictures , a hint or a link would be nice , please.

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 21:32

This may not be quite suitable, as it doesn't show the complete transporter. It is an Iveco Eurocargo that, during the week, earns its keep delivering sheet metal components.

 

Our sons' two Lotus Elises just sqeeze in, with all the 'race gear'. The grandkids and cat won't fit in. :lol:

 

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#2877 275 GTB-4

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 22:09

Top shot Greg...I was at a Wakefield meeting, my snap ain't very well composed, but shows a little more of the twuck (ohhhhh dear!)

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Edited by 275 GTB-4, 14 March 2014 - 22:22.


#2878 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 22:19

This may not be quite suitable, as it doesn't show the complete transporter. It is an Iveco Eurocargo that, during the week, earns its keep delivering sheet metal components.

 

Our sons' two Lotus Elises just sqeeze in, with all the 'race gear'. The grandkids and cat won't fit in. :lol:

 

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It would be easier , and safer to put one car on a trailer behind the truck. A fair bit of weight over the rear axle. Besides that both the kids and the cat could come along too!



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Posted 14 March 2014 - 22:38

Lee, 2 x Lotus Elise @ 750kg each = 1500kg. Even with all the other stuff, it's way under payload capacity. Works really well. The whole lot can be loaded in 20 mins.....handy after P. Island, when the truck has to be ready for work on Monday morning.



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#2880 oldirish

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 09:43

Nice set up.  Very similar to how a friend transports two Alfas to the track in their trailer.  Works well with lighter cars.



#2881 Macca

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 13:09

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Not exactly a RACE transporter..........a still from the trailer for 'Grand Prix' showing on of the Hertz Bedford TK's at Monaco.

 

The sharp-eyed when watching the film might spot two of them parked on the cleared site of the old station during the onboard footage.

 

 

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 16:09

Ford D Series, not a TK. More practical as it had a tilt cab but the TK was, in my opinion, the nicer to drive and better quality.



#2883 Gregor Marshall

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 22:26

I've been trying to get a Bedford CF for the GRRC Goodwood meeting to use as a tow car, but failed (a lot cheaper than the race car!!), but I would love to see pics of how DTV got 2/3 cars to each meeting, I think just vans and trailers??

#2884 Dipster

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 06:45

Gregor,

 

Did you try contacting Dnny Hopkins, the Editor of "Practical Classics" magazine? (danny.hopkins@bauermedia.co.uk). This magazine does include CF size vehicles, despite the mag's name, and recently covered Goodwood from an unusual angle. There is a CF motorhome currently under refurbishment. Danny may know someone who can help. Good luck. 

 

The CF was a tough old thing in its day. I used to work where we maintained a small mixed  fleet of vans for a customer. The fleet had one of every van on the market it seemed. They had an older petrol-engined CF that was high mileage, quite tatty and seemingly unloved. The company had a policy of replacement by buying the cheapest van available in stock from almost any dealer. I recall that they had a recently-employed young scruff of a driver who had been assigned the CF. It was not "flash" enough for him. When he collected it once after servicing he boasted to me that he was going to wreck it deliberately to ensure the company replaced it.

 

I saw him later and asked what he was driving. The CF he said. He had driven it up a motorway flat out in 3rd (4-speed box) for hours. The van showed no signs of distress at all. Tough, no?



#2885 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 07:14

In Oz we had Bedford vans with 6cyl Holdens in them. Vast improvement on the rotten old 4.

Our Transits also used 4.1 Falcon motors. Even better,, and a V8 was a fairly easy conversion.

Many of both were used as towcars, move all the tools aside and instant camper!



#2886 Levin68

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 08:31

I found this on the Retronaut website. There's no photo attribution but that whole site seems casual about such things. Does anyone know the story behind this combination? I looked to see if it had been posted before but couldn't find it.

 

http://i91.photobuck...zps8ead3736.jpg

 

http://i91.photobuck...zps0c7ed058.jpg


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Posted 21 March 2014 - 09:05

 

http://i91.photobuck...zps8ead3736.jpg   photos appear on p20/21 of Renntransporter , have no german but I deduce it was built or owned by Alfred Neubauer , dates from 1924

 

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#2888 oldclassiccar

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 13:31

Afternoon all,

 

Photographed at Silverstone in 1954 apparently, an Austin K8 support vehicle or (compact) transporter - does anyone know who might have owned it?

 

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Thanks, RJ

 



#2889 Vitesse2

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Posted 14 April 2014 - 11:11

TW, according to Michael Oliver's Lotus 72 book this transporter was severely damaged in a road accident on the way from Jarama to Monaco in 1972. For the rest of the 1972 season Lotus used an old Bedford transporter borrowed from Tim Parnell, until this was written off in the accident on the way to Monza. It was replaced by a new 'state of the art' transporter supplied by Marshalls of Cambridge in September 1972.
Presumably the old transporter must have been repaired sometime during 1972 and handed down to the F2 team for the 1973 season.

And ten years on, a picture of the unfortunate Lotus transporter - taken by a passing honeymooner - surfaces!

 

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This was about a month later and the cab has obviously been stripped out in preparation for restoration, but it certainly looks like it was a big shunt!

 

http://www.prewarcar...tml#addcomments



#2890 bradbury west

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Posted 14 April 2014 - 12:21

A long shot, I grant you, but for the picture in post 2888, the K8 van, check the shot on the KOY500 thread post 15, or the photobucket pictures on  Melanie Edwards' site linked from post 13 on the Who was Verdun Edwards? thread. Behind Clem Edwards in one shot is a similarly liveried K8 van in period, X100 and Dunlop logos etc, with cars behind and alongside with race nos. visible. A long shot, as I say, but  a programme check etc , or a look through Derek Lawson Autosport reports-based Oulton books, may give a clue about the entrant etc. Melanie's pictures are event dated.

I have followed more tenuous leads in my time with success.....

Roger Lund



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Posted 14 April 2014 - 14:56

Behind Clem Edwards in one shot is a similarly liveried K8 van in period, X100 and Dunlop logos etc, with cars behind and alongside with race nos. visible. A long shot but  a programme check etc , or a look through Derek Lawson Autosport reports-based Oulton books, may give a clue about the entrant etc. Melanie's pictures are even dated.

I have followed more tenuous leads in my time with success.....

Roger Lund

 

You could just click on the linked highlighted text  ;)



#2892 bradbury west

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Posted 14 April 2014 - 16:06

That is just the point. I cannot post a link, nor quote a previous post, nor post photographs on my setup, and I see little merit in changing. I feel it is more  salient that I recalled the photo site and troubled to post as I did, to help other TNFers. I thought that was what this place was all about. And before anyone points it out, I know that lots of people used K8s as  support vans.

Roger Lund

BTW Tim's kind note elsewhere  about looking for the light bulb in the box is of no benefit as I do not get the lightbulb sign, perhaps in more than one sense........

 

PS levin68's link to those sites caused a known malicious site red warning to flash up on my screen , so perhaps better to delete the post.



#2893 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 09:02

Some years ago I read a short notice on I believe George Henrottes Transporter clipping a gangway with the top on some track in UK in the early 50's. I even found a Picture somewhere , but unfortunately it has all gone lost for me.

Anyone remember anything about this ?

#2894 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 09 June 2014 - 08:29

When Bira raced his Maserati 250F1 in 1954 he had a Ford transporter. Supposed to be with a V8 engine , which if needed overhall was taken out at the passenger door .
This transporter was used by Gould in 1955 and sold to Halford for 1956. Any ideas of the looks of that Bira transporter ?

#2895 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 05:55

I am looking for a Picture of the Austin transporter of H&L Motors , later Ecurie Galloises of Jack Lewis. Any hints , please ?

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 09:07

Some time ago I posted on this thread about an old racing car transporter which had been found on a farm in Southern England, which it transpires was a Commer Superpoise used in the 1950s by Brian Croot to carry his ex-Sopwith Sphinx and later a C-type. I have now heard from Brian's son Max that he is in a position to dispose of the Commer - I have not seen it, but I do recall that it had aluminium bodywork, so it could well be restorable.  It would certainly suit the paddock at the Revival or other historic festivals.

 

If anyone is interested, or knows of someone who is, please PM me and I will pass your contact details on to Max.



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Posted 08 July 2014 - 09:21

extract from this French site , Official Porsche Team Truck at Monza with unknown trailer ( perhaps and old one with new truck ? ) , for me never seen before ?

you can watch the previous 920 pages and you will find wonders on our favorite topic!

 

http://www.forum-aut...79017-32200.htm

 

 

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here too, lots of interesting things in these files ...

 

http://www.images-co...&ViewRubrique=1


Edited by Papiyv, 08 July 2014 - 16:24.


#2898 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 17:05

It is Porsches Opel Blitz with 1 axle trailer.

#2899 Marc Sproule

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Posted 17 July 2014 - 06:37

i finally stumbled onto a transporter snap and uploaded it to flickr. yes. it's not exciting but it does a pretty good job of setting the scene in the paddock at laguna seca in the winter of '84,

 

there will be more, and more interesting, transporter pics in the future.

 

in the meantime.....

https://www.flickr.c...N03/14674479305


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Posted 17 July 2014 - 13:09

Why does the hackneyed phrase "Work in progress" come to mind/