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#1 hans stuck

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Posted 02 April 2004 - 18:06

Does anyone have some details on Bernd's time racing motorcycles...in the orig german printing of Elly's book, there's a nice shot of him racing...but photos and info in general appears to be rare...can anyone shed some light on this period? recc any books or sites? Thanks :up:

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#2 Hugo Boecker

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Posted 13 May 2004 - 16:29

Originally posted by hans stuck
Does anyone have some details on Bernd's time racing motorcycles...in the orig german printing of Elly's book, there's a nice shot of him racing...but photos and info in general appears to be rare...can anyone shed some light on this period? recc any books or sites? Thanks :up:


Hallo Hans,

here is a list of all Rosemeyer's motorcycle races as far as I know.

Saison Datum Strecke Art Fahrzeug Start-Nr. Platz

1931 31.05.31 Grassbahn Rennen Klasse 250ccm Oldenburg Moto Zündapp 250 39 1.
1931 31.05.31 Grassbahn Rennen Klasse 500ccm Oldenburg Moto Zündapp 250 39 1.
1931 weitere 11 Siege in Grassbahnrennen Moto

1932 1932 Hohensyburg- Dreiecksrennen Hohensyburg Moto BMW 500 1. 2.o/a
1932 1932 Hohensyburg- Dreiecksrennen Hohensyburg Moto BMW 2. Klasse 1000ccm
1932 1932 Eifelrennen Nürburgring Moto NSU 2. Klasse 500ccm
1932 1932 Schleiz Schleiz Moto NSU 1.

1933 Eilenriederennen Hannover Moto NSU 1.
1933 21.05.33 Int.Motorradrennen Hockenheim Moto NSU - 500 - Magnetdefekt
1933 09.07.33 AVUS Moto NSU
1933 Marienberg Moto NSU
1933 Schleiz Moto NSU 1.
1933 27.08.33 Hockenheimer Motorradrennen Hockenheim Moto NSU - 1000ccm 2.
1933 Guggenberg Moto NSU 1.
1933 Tat (HU) Moto NSU 1.
1933 Gödöllö Bergrennen Gödöllö (HU) Moto NSU 1.
1933 Budapest Moto NSU 1.
1933 27.08.33 Dt.Motorrad Clubmeisterschaft Hockenheim Moto NSU 1.

1934 Winterwettbewerb Oberstaufen DKW Goldmedallie
1934 15.04.34 Eilenriederennen Hannover Moto 500 DKW - 500ccm 2 4.
1934 13.05.34 Marienberg Moto 500 - DM DKW - 500ccm 81 1.
1934 16. - 18.5.1934 Harz 3 Tage Fahrt Moto DKW 350 Goldmedallie
1934 20.05.34 Großer Preis von Italien Rom Littorio Moto 500 DKW - 500ccm 6.
1934 03.06.34 Eifelrennen Nürburgring Moto 500 - DM DKW - 500ccm
1934 17.06.34 Kesselbergrennen Moto 500 DKW - 500ccm 2.
1934 25.06.34 Dutch TT Assen Moto 500 DKW - 500ccm
1934 08.07.34 Gabelbachrennen Moto 500 DKW - 500ccm 1.
1934 21. - 22.7.1934 2000 KM Deutschlandfahrt Auto Wanderer Goldmedallie
1934 29.07.34 Hockenheimer Motorradrennen Hockenheim Moto 500 - DM DKW - 500ccm SR - Vordergabel
1934 05.08.34 Klausenpassrennen Moto 500 DKW - 500ccm 2.
1934 19.08.34 Großer Bergpreis Schauinsland Moto 500 DKW - 500ccm 2.
1934 27.8. -1.9.1934 Internationale 6 Tage Fahrt Moto DKW 350 Goldmedallie
1934 16.09.34 Schleiz Moto 500 - DM DKW - 500ccm 74 1.
1934 30.09.34 Hamburger Stadtparkrennen Hamburg Moto 500 - DM DKW - 500ccm DNS Trainingsunfall
1934 07.10.34 Gödöllöer Bergrennen Moto 500 DKW 500 1.
1934 07.10.34 Gödöllöer Bergrennen Moto 1000 DKW 1000 1. 1. o/a
1934 14.10.34 Harmahatarhaggy Bergrennen Moto 750 DKW 500 1. 1. o/a

The Info are from old motorsport books

regards hugo Boecker

#3 Holger Merten

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Posted 14 May 2004 - 10:07

Welcome to one of the best places in the world Hugo. As I saw in your profile youare interested in Rosemeyer. Therefor we will cross some threads and posts in the future here on TNF.


BTW: you are from Schwelm, that' not far away, where I grew up: Niederrhein close to the dutch border.

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Posted 14 May 2004 - 11:24

Welcome from Cologne, Hugo! Although Schwelm politically does not belong to the Rhineland ;) , it`s nice to see some people from nearby here at TNF. And BTW, Holger, the Automobile Club of Schwelm (http://www.acas.de/festschrift.htm) was involved in organising the Selbecker Bergrennen and the Hohensyburg races we recently talked about with Hans (Etzrodt)!
@Hugo, are you into your local motorsport heritage, too? Because sooner or later we wanted to shed some more light on these events.

#5 Hans Etzrodt

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Posted 14 May 2004 - 19:48

Welcome from Honolulu, Hugo. :wave:

#6 Hugo Boecker

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Posted 15 May 2004 - 12:26

Originally posted by eukie
Welcome from Cologne, Hugo! Although Schwelm politically does not belong to the Rhineland ;) , it`s nice to see some people from nearby here at TNF. And BTW, Holger, the Automobile Club of Schwelm (http://www.acas.de/festschrift.htm) was involved in organising the Selbecker Bergrennen and the Hohensyburg races we recently talked about with Hans (Etzrodt)!
@Hugo, are you into your local motorsport heritage, too? Because sooner or later we wanted to shed some more light on these events.


Hi
it's fine to meet someone who know the real difference in our NRW - here at the westfalian border I'm mainly interested in the Hohensyburg Dreiecksrennen (Lang started 1930; Rosemeyer 1932). The course is still existing ( the roads).
About the Selbecke Bergrennen I have never heard. The course must pass the go-cart track at Hagen is going up to Breckerfeld as this is called Selbecke. Nice road.

best wishes from Westfalia

Hugo

#7 taylov

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 19:44

I came across this 10 year-old thread whilst looking for information about the support races at the 1934 Eifelrennen.

 

In the original programme which I have, Rosemeyer is down to ride #22, a 500cc DKW entered by Auto Union, in race 2 over 12 laps (273.7 km).   Looking at various books and mags, I can find no mention of him in this race beyond the fact that he was entered.  Did he in fact race in the Eifelrennen meeting and, if so, does anyone know what the outcome was ?

 

Tony


Edited by taylov, 28 July 2014 - 22:03.


#8 Vitesse2

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 23:22

Somebody with a better understanding of 1930s idiomatic German - and a better eye for fraktur - than mine may be able to elucidate further, but I think he retired. There's a brief mention of him near the bottom of the first column on this newspaper page: the one word I can definitely make out is 'erlitten', which is the past participle of the verb erleiden: to suffer. The previous word seems to end 'schaden' - presumably something to do with schade, which has negative connotations.

 

http://az.ub.uni-fre...ject=3&anzahl=4

 

The June 1934 edition of the Austrian AAZ has slightly fuller results - and is easier to read! - but there's no mention of Rosemeyer.

 

http://anno.onb.ac.a...eite=14&zoom=33



#9 Ristin

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 15:24

Vitesse, it says "Rosemeyer and (*cant read this, Markhofer?*) were unlucky and suffered engine damage".
"Schaden" is damage. "Maschinenschaden", engine damage, in a typical race report might be anything connected to the powertrain - from a faulty spark plug to a seized gearbox. In a broader use it might even mean any mechanical damage, as opposed to a crash.

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 15:58

Danke! Heh, now you've told me what it says Maschinenschaden is obvious! It was very late at night and maybe my eyes were tired.  :blush:  I think the other rider mentioned is most likely Toni Bauhofer: if he was a non-finisher it was probably just as worthy of mention as Rosemeyer retiring.

 

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