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#1 Schummy

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Posted 21 April 2004 - 21:02

Imola is our third round. That wise phrase is an indication about the tiny amount of inspiration I have in this moment ;)

I'm sorry to say it but Imola is a sort of home ground for Ferrari =:-o so be prepared for another steamroller-like perfomance.

How many people are going to guess MS for first place? Surely we will get something like a record. I have to see first the qualifying session, but chances are I'll put MS in 1st as well :)

Please Monty, Alonso come in our rescue! Please Mr. Ilmor can you let your fireworks at home and bring Italy a proper Otto four strokes gasoline engine? We need one Kimi to fight for win/podium!

Well, enough of this nonsensical intro, let's pass to the usual rules section ;)

Good luck and, above all, good fun for everyone! :up:

Rules:

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It consists in guessing the three firsts in F1 races. You do an ordered guess (i.e. MS-JPM-RS) and a score is given according to real podium results. The

scoring system is as explained here:

Suppose you do the guess MS-JPM-RS.

If MS is 1st, 3 points
if MS is 2nd, 2 points
if MS is 3rd, 1 point

If JPM is 1st, 2 points
if JPM is 2nd, 2 points
if JPM is 3rd, 1 point

If RS is 1st, 2nd or 3rd, 1 point

It another driver makes a podium position, it doesn't give any points.

The key for this system is not "gambling" on the exact position but to do a realistic shot at the relative merit of each driver in that GP. For instance, you are not penalized for JPM being first and not 2nd, as the penalty comes by not scoring with MS's first position.

In order to have a reference I will enter two "dummy" players: Bernie and Max (the names were chosen randomly ). Bernie always guesses the firsts three qualifyers, and Max always guesses the firsts three classified in WDC current points table. Can you outscore B&M?

Any guess can be done before one hour before the official first start of the race. We will use the "official" Atlas Forum clock to resolve close entries.

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Special case: Missed round

Knowing that there are circunstances that sometimes make not possible to enter each round, and wishing to offer the oppurtunity of a good classification to those who cannot be here every round, each round those who miss that round will get a score determined as follows:

(1)
"Third better score for that round minus three. The resulting score MUST be always between 0 and 2 points, adjusting it as needed"

For example, supposed scores for missing rounds would be:

third best score=3, miss-score=0
third best score=2, miss-score=0
third best score=5, miss-score=2

The rationale of it is reward "misses" depending on the difficulty of the round. I have done calculations about last years results and it works well. Missing rounds are rewarded less than almost every one who made a guess (except some rare cases of disasters), and on the other side, missing rounds are not penalized as harshly as zero.

(2)
"In order to eliminate unneeded calculations, I only will add miss-scores to players who guessed more than half of number of rounds so far (it's to say, with three rounds, those who guessed two times)"

(3)
"In case of a tie in the final classification, the first rule to untying is the player with less miss-scores is above the player with more miss-score."

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Tie breaking rules:

In case of tie in final scores, the first rule is "the less amount of miss-scores gets the better classification", second rule is "the best classified in the previous round gets the best classification".

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#2 Schummy

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Posted 21 April 2004 - 21:11

Heck! I just saw all the others colleagues in F1 games have put "San Marino" instead "Imola". Why I have to get titles wrong so often?;)

#3 chris_canuk

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Posted 21 April 2004 - 21:13

1 - MSch
2 - JPM
3 - RSch

#4 AndreasF1

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Posted 21 April 2004 - 21:25

1. Msch
2. Barr
3. Alon

#5 garth_b

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Posted 21 April 2004 - 22:10

1. msch
2. rsch
3. barr

#6 skylark68

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Posted 21 April 2004 - 22:28

1. Msch
2. Mont
3. Alon

#7 130R

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Posted 21 April 2004 - 23:12

MSch
Barr
Mont

#8 Daisy

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Posted 21 April 2004 - 23:25

MSch
Mont
Butt

#9 panzani

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Posted 21 April 2004 - 23:34

Mont/Raik/Alon

#10 Makarias

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 00:05

MSch-Butt-Mont

#11 LB

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 00:26

Originally posted by Makarias
MSch-Barr-Mont


see him :D

cannot see anything else at all.

#12 Ventura

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 00:50

1) M.Schumacher
2) R.Barrichello
3) Ralf Schumacher

#13 Moanaman

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 02:30

MSch
Mont
Butt

*Edited*

#14 Pioneer

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 03:57

MS
RB
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#15 Schuperman

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 04:10

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#16 weasle

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 04:19

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#17 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 06:37

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#18 Schummy

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 07:28

I forgot to mention in my opening post that it would be better to put guesses in the "classic" format here, just as an recommendation:

XX XX XX

or

XX - XX - XX

or

XX / XX / XX

About driver´s names, again better is intials (MS, FA, JPM) or "four-first-letters" format (msch, alon, mont) as used in other games.

However, all formats are valid, it is just a bit more lenghty to "process" in other formats. Someone put in the last GP a guess with the three-line format and almost everyone continued with that "deviation" :)

I'll try to mention it in the next GP.

About this round's guesses, imagine a first corner accident eliminates both Ferraris, it would be a catastrophe for the scores of (almost) all of us here!;)

#19 Pikachu Racing

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 07:45

M. Schumacher/Rubens/Alonso

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#20 Marcel Schot

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 07:46

Butt/Msch/Mont

#21 Jimmino

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 08:21

MS/RB/JPM

#22 Alapan

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 09:26

MSch/Barr/Butt

#23 AD

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 10:12

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#24 QdfV

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 10:25

Butt - MSch - Raik

#25 Bjorn

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 12:02

Raik - RB - JPB

#26 fifi

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 12:32

Mschu
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#27 Schummy

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 12:52

Originally posted by Bjorn
Si hoc scripturam legere potes, operis boni in rebus Latinus alacribus et fructuosis potiri potes.

That's exactly what I was thinking! ;)

#28 Viss1

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 13:02

MS - RB - FA

#29 TT6

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 13:21

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#30 Ric Bol

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 13:25

MS - RB - JPM

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 13:26

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#32 Apex

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 13:46

MS - RB - JPM

#33 titrisol

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 14:02

titrisol Msch/raik/mont

#34 Only Massa

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 14:17

Only Massa

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 15:59

MS-RB-RS

#36 dbltop

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 18:01

msch/mont/barr

#37 fisichella_2001

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 18:33

MSCH - BARR - MONT

#38 MortenF1

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 18:36

Originally posted by Schummy

That's exactly what I was thinking! ;)


Funny that, 'cause I was just about to say that stanza!

Butt-Mont-Barr

#39 kismet

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 19:46

MS - RB - JPM

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#40 estoril85

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 22:08

RB-MS-RS

#41 d_view7

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Posted 23 April 2004 - 03:04

MS-RB-KR

#42 gerry nassar

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Posted 23 April 2004 - 03:07

MS-RB-RS

#43 The Kanisteri

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Posted 23 April 2004 - 06:31

MS-RB-JB

#44 wioyet

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Posted 23 April 2004 - 06:51

mont/alon/msch

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Posted 23 April 2004 - 07:48

MS-BAR-ALO

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Posted 23 April 2004 - 11:45

MS-RB-JT

#47 WillieF1

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Posted 23 April 2004 - 12:03

MS-RB-JB

#48 Schuting Star

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Posted 24 April 2004 - 14:19

MS - JB - RB

#49 scheivlak

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Posted 24 April 2004 - 17:25

msch-butt-alon

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Posted 24 April 2004 - 18:36

MS-JB-RS