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#1 Schummy

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Posted 02 May 2004 - 12:08

(Please read the commentary about "guess fornat" just below the usual silly intro)

Come on, we all know Catalonia's circuit is a test home for every (important) team, so they and we all know exactly the finish order they will achieve. McLaren even knows in what lap Raikkonen's diesel engine is going to go fissionable mterial, and Eddie Jordan has exact reports about in what lap Andersson is going to push the button to shoot wheels out of Heidfeld's car.

So, why we don't get rid of this round and pass rightly to Monaco? Answer: because it is not allowed in our rules. So, let's stop dreaming about it.

In fact, Montmelo is a nice track... as far as F1 cars are not racing on it. If I were Maxy (what I ferviently don't wish to be) I would do mandatory each car did a doughnut in every lap in the main straight. It would have a good show for corporate guests who get stuck in those boring VIP start line tribunes. Also, it surely would eliminate both of Minardi's drivers in the first lap, taking out two of the chicanes of the track.

Ok, guess waht you want, but be warned, if you do "a Bjorn" ;) :up: you can be throw at the Minardi end of the table.


Format norms:

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From now on "officially supported" :rolleyes: format for guesses are:

1) XX XX XX

or

2) XX - XX - XX

or

3) XX / XX / XX

Where "XX" are driver's names. Those driver´s names, can be (in order of preference) :

a) (native format of this game) Two or three letters initial: MS, KR. FA, JPM,...

or

b) (popular format as in guess the grid and guess the result ;) )First four letters of surname (except Schu brothers, msch and rsch) : raik, mont, alon,...

or

c) complete surname (and first name's initial in case of Schues) : raikkonen, mschumacher, montoya, alonso,...

However, it doesn't mean other formated entries are not admitted, I'll do my best to enter every guess in the game, it just take me more time :cry: ;)
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Rules:

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It consists in guessing the three firsts in F1 races. You do an ordered guess (i.e. MS-JPM-RS) and a score is given according to real podium results. The

scoring system is as explained here:

Suppose you do the guess MS-JPM-RS.

If MS is 1st, 3 points
if MS is 2nd, 2 points
if MS is 3rd, 1 point

If JPM is 1st, 2 points
if JPM is 2nd, 2 points
if JPM is 3rd, 1 point

If RS is 1st, 2nd or 3rd, 1 point

It another driver makes a podium position, it doesn't give any points.

The key for this system is not "gambling" on the exact position but to do a realistic shot at the relative merit of each driver in that GP. For instance, you are not penalized for JPM being first and not 2nd, as the penalty comes by not scoring with MS's first position.

In order to have a reference I will enter two "dummy" players: Bernie and Max (the names were chosen randomly ). Bernie always guesses the firsts three qualifyers, and Max always guesses the firsts three classified in WDC current points table. Can you outscore B&M?

Any guess can be done before one hour before the official first start of the race. We will use the "official" Atlas Forum clock to resolve close entries.

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Special case: Missed round

Knowing that there are circunstances that sometimes make not possible to enter each round, and wishing to offer the oppurtunity of a good classification to those who cannot be here every round, each round those who miss that round will get a score determined as follows:

(1)
"Third better score for that round minus three. The resulting score MUST be always between 0 and 2 points, adjusting it as needed"

For example, supposed scores for missing rounds would be:

third best score=3, miss-score=0
third best score=2, miss-score=0
third best score=5, miss-score=2

The rationale of it is reward "misses" depending on the difficulty of the round. I have done calculations about last years results and it works well. Missing rounds are rewarded less than almost every one who made a guess (except some rare cases of disasters), and on the other side, missing rounds are not penalized as harshly as zero.

(2)
"In order to eliminate unneeded calculations, I only will add miss-scores to players who guessed more than half of number of rounds so far (it's to say, with three rounds, those who guessed two times)"

(3)
"In case of a tie in the final classification, the first rule to untying is the player with less miss-scores is above the player with more miss-score."

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Tie breaking rules:

In case of tie in final scores, the first rule is "the less amount of miss-scores gets the better classification", second rule is "the best classified in the previous round gets the best classification".

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#2 Schummy

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Posted 02 May 2004 - 12:15

Examples of Guesses :

(Those are the guess for MAX)

MS RB JB

MS - RB - JB

msch/barr/butt

mschumacher - barrichello - button

And "permutations" like those of formatting norms... :)

Please, don't use multiline format. (otherwise I'll report to Charlie Whitting!)

Thanks a lot!

#3 Marcel Schot

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Posted 02 May 2004 - 12:37

Marcel Schot/msch/barr/alon

#4 berlinetta

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Posted 02 May 2004 - 13:30

berlinetta msch/alon/butt

#5 panzani

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Posted 02 May 2004 - 14:24

Mont/Raik/Alon :blush:

#6 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 02 May 2004 - 15:45

Msch/Barr/Rsch

#7 chris_canuk

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Posted 02 May 2004 - 16:00

Mschu - Mont - Alon

#8 Estwald

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Posted 02 May 2004 - 16:21

MS-JPM-RB


#9 weasle

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Posted 02 May 2004 - 16:46

weasle msch/butt/barr

#10 Schummy

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Posted 02 May 2004 - 19:42

LOL, I always (strange)love the avatar-icon of Estwald :love:

#11 Pikachu Racing

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Posted 02 May 2004 - 21:33

Pikachu MSchumacher/Alonso/Button

#12 V10 Fireworks

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Posted 03 May 2004 - 09:41

MS - FA - JB

#13 Ventura

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Posted 03 May 2004 - 10:16

Ventura Msch - Butt - Alon

#14 Alapan

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Posted 03 May 2004 - 10:59

Alapan/msch/barr/butt

#15 Jimmino

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Posted 03 May 2004 - 14:25

MS-RB-JPM

#16 MortenF1

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Posted 03 May 2004 - 15:13

MS-JPM-JT

#17 Ric Bol

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Posted 03 May 2004 - 23:13

MS - JPM - JB

#18 Nasty McBastard

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Posted 04 May 2004 - 01:18

Msch/Bari/Alon

#19 Apex

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Posted 04 May 2004 - 16:38

MS - JPM - RB

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#20 wioyet

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Posted 05 May 2004 - 06:18

wioyet/mont/msch/butt

#21 TT6

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Posted 05 May 2004 - 09:14

M Schumacher
Button
Räikkönen

#22 AD

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Posted 05 May 2004 - 09:47

MS - RB - JB

#23 Schuperman

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Posted 05 May 2004 - 10:24

Schuperman msch/butt/alon

#24 Moanaman

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Posted 05 May 2004 - 10:36

MS - JPM - RS

#25 cozworth

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Posted 05 May 2004 - 11:06

Cozworth MS/RB/ALONSO

#26 Schummy

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Posted 05 May 2004 - 11:56

Nasty McBastard: your avatar is exactly equal to our bot BERNIE!

(BTW, funny character Bender :lol: )

#27 Pioneer

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Posted 05 May 2004 - 19:01

Pioneer/msch/butt/alon

#28 Zawed

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Posted 05 May 2004 - 21:46

MS - FA - RB

#29 Prostfan

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Posted 05 May 2004 - 21:59

MS - JPM - RB

#30 Makarias

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Posted 05 May 2004 - 23:19

MSch-Mont-Barr

#31 LB

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Posted 06 May 2004 - 00:44

MS - JB - JPM

#32 The Kanisteri

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Posted 06 May 2004 - 05:19

The Kanisteri /MSch/Butt/Räik

#33 garth_b

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Posted 06 May 2004 - 07:20

garth_b/msch/butt/alon

#34 estoril85

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Posted 06 May 2004 - 09:08

estoril85 msch/mont/alon

#35 fifi

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Posted 06 May 2004 - 09:18

MS-KR-JPM

#36 kismet

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Posted 06 May 2004 - 15:22

MS-RB-FA

#37 Viss1

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Posted 06 May 2004 - 16:16

These restrictive posting rules are killing me! :p

MS - JB - RB

#38 Only Massa

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Posted 06 May 2004 - 18:04

Only Massa Msch/Butt/Mont

#39 dbltop

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Posted 06 May 2004 - 18:36

Barr/Mont/Alon

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#40 QdfV

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Posted 06 May 2004 - 19:55

MS / JB / FA

#41 130R

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Posted 06 May 2004 - 20:53

Msch/Butt/Barr

#42 Daisy

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Posted 06 May 2004 - 21:20

Msch/Butt/Mont

#43 fisichella_2001

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Posted 06 May 2004 - 21:24

MSCH - BARR - BUTT

#44 WillieF1

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Posted 06 May 2004 - 21:58

WillieF1 ms - rb - jb

#45 Schuting Star

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Posted 06 May 2004 - 22:31

MS - JPM - JB

#46 skylark68

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Posted 06 May 2004 - 23:29

ms-butt-barr

#47 rich42

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Posted 07 May 2004 - 05:59

MS - JB - JPM

#48 gerry nassar

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Posted 07 May 2004 - 08:13

MS - JB - FA

#49 d_view7

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Posted 07 May 2004 - 08:15

MS-RB-FA

#50 pinin406

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MS-JB-FA