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#1 Globber2000

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 00:41

I was reading about Mazda's racing and I found that their first competition was the 84 hours of Nurburgring. I blinked a few times at that one, and I couldn't find too much information on the race. So, who started the race, and what kind of masochists would drive it? btw, i found that the last marathon race was 96 hours :eek:

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#2 D-Type

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 00:45

Is it coincidence that a similar question was raised here a week ago?

#3 Holger Merten

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 07:17

There was a 84 hours race at the Nürburgring in 1968. I will look for some more details, if the specialists are not faster.

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 07:58

Two Mazda Cosmo 110 group 6 entered by Mazda Motor Europe
18 ''Eldé'' - Deprez - "Jipea'' 4th 344 laps (winner 356 laps)
19 Koga - Katayama - Katakura DNF

51 starters 26 finishers


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#5 Holger Merten

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 08:18

Marathon de la Route (84 hours) - The race was held on the Nord- and the Südsloop!

August 21.- 24. 1968

I have 59 starters and 26 finishers. The two victorious Porsche work cars of Linge/Glemser/Kauhsen and Schuler/Bank/Steckkönig made 10,100 km (356 rounds). At place 4 finished the Mazda Cosmo with wankel engine. In the starter field was announced the team Martini (with BMW 1800 TI, BMW 2002 special and BMW 1600 TI). The Martini team won the constructors-cup. The three cars put together 27,100 km back. Willi Martini is even also occupied at the start and with its crew the 13. Place.


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I have more informations about the Marathon de la Route (84 hours) for 1969 and 1970.

#6 VDP

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 08:32

59 entrants max autorised 60
8 withdraw
51 starters
26 finishers

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#7 Holger Merten

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 09:44

Good to know.

#8 bigears

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 11:55

I did ask a similar question about this in an other forum. Someone suggested me to go to Frank de Jong's (a member in here) website and it got a some very good information about the 84 Hours races.

Found it:

http://homepage.mac......ng 84hrs.html

Also from one of the posts from the other forum. Daniel Stoffel typed:-

My Grandpa, Hans-Günter Stoffel, drove the Marathon de la Route.In 1970 he finished in 4th Place behind the three Works-VW Porsche 914/6.My Grandpa drove a BMW 2002 Ti.And Yes the South and North Circuits were combined!I think this Race was very hard because they only drove with 2 or max. 3 Drivers on a car...and this 84 and 96 Hours in a Row!
But it must have been a great Time of Motorracing...
Greetings from Germany!


#9 Vitesse2

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 12:19

The 84 Hours was the final incarnation of the old-established Marathon de la Route

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#10 Holger Merten

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 13:04

Originally posted by bigears
I did ask a similar question about this in an other forum. Someone suggested me to go to Frank de Jong's (a member in here) website and it got a some very good information about the 84 Hours races.

Found it:

http://homepage.mac......ng 84hrs.html

Also from one of the posts from the other forum. Daniel Stoffel typed:-

My Grandpa, Hans-Günter Stoffel, drove the Marathon de la Route.In 1970 he finished in 4th Place behind the three Works-VW Porsche 914/6.My Grandpa drove a BMW 2002 Ti.And Yes the South and North Circuits were combined!I think this Race was very hard because they only drove with 2 or max. 3 Drivers on a car...and this 84 and 96 Hours in a Row!
But it must have been a great Time of Motorracing...
Greetings from Germany!


3 drivers reached the 4th place, Eisenschenk / Stoffel / Joisten, BMW 2002ti, 328/327 laps
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#11 bigears

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 15:35

Wow! what a lovely photograph!

Thank you Holger.

As it is a race based at the Nurburgring in Germany but why the name of the event is in French?

Or did the French took up the idea first then the Germans took it into the Nordschleife and the Sudschleife?

#12 VDP

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 15:43

Marathon de la route was organised by Belgian Club in replacement of former
Liège Rome Liége and Liège Sofia Liège

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#13 Holger Merten

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 15:43

AFAIK, Marathon de la route is the successor of the longdistance runLiège-Rome-Liège. A belgian event.

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 21:36

"The Liège", as was known this rally, received officially from 1956 on the surname of "Marathon de la Route":

- "Liège - Rome - Liège / Marathon de la Route" up to 1960
- "Liege - Sofia - Liege / Marathon de la Route", 1961 to 1963
- "Spa - Sofia - Liège / Marathon de la Route" in 1964

From 1965 up to 1971 (the Nürburgring' years) the rally/race name was, simply, "Marathon de la Route".


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Posted 01 November 2011 - 13:31

Can someone help please. In post 8 it is mentioned that Daniel Stoffel wrote about his Granpa `on another forum`. Can you tell me which one ?

I would like to contact him as I have a car his Granpa drove back in those days. Regards.

#16 Tim Murray

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 14:07

I would like to contact him as I have a car his Granpa drove back in those days. Regards.

Racing Sports Cars has results for Hans-Günter Stoffel and Hans-Günter Stoffel Jr, who I assume are probably father and son as they sometimes co-drove together:

http://www.racingspo...-Stoffel-D.html

http://www.racingspo....., Jr._-D.html

I think one of them is on Facebook, as his profile photo shows him in racing overalls with BMW badge, and a Daniel Stoffel is listed among his friends. It might be worth contacting him to see if he is (or knows) your man:

http://www.facebook....0...675&sk=info


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Posted 01 November 2011 - 18:01

Hi tim,
Thanks, very helpful.