Lotus 18 exported to Jay Chamberlain
#1
Posted 23 November 2004 - 14:19
These seem to have been exported to the USA at the end of 18 production.
Does anyone know who bought them and who drove, where ??
Can any one supply photos of any of these cars in period ?
KDW
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#2
Posted 23 November 2004 - 20:42
You can find photos of California F-Jrs in 1961 on my website:
http://www.tamsoldra...sHome.html#More F-Jrs Home
Tam McPartland
#3
Posted 23 November 2004 - 20:45
#4
Posted 23 November 2004 - 23:20
WINO
#6
Posted 24 November 2004 - 14:16
http://www.formula2....DriversW_Ex.htm
My results pages of Non-European FJ-races is far from complete, anyone out there who has more information to share?
Stefan
#7
Posted 24 November 2004 - 14:44
I notice Ed Crawford listed in the Cunningham Stanguellini. It was the FJ race before the 12 Hours of Sebring in 1960. On a side note, Crawford also ran an Elva/DKW in the Monaco GP supporting FJ race in May 1960, then the same car at Crystal Palace in June. Do you have any idea who owned it, since Cunningham never had an Elva/BMW.
As for US-bound Lotus 18s, Jim Hall ended up with a number of them and I wonder if they came through Chamberlin or straight from the factory. If the former, it helps a lot with the numbers game.
WINO
#8
Posted 24 November 2004 - 16:31
I also know that ACBC did deal with others in USA at same time.
KDW
#9
Posted 24 November 2004 - 17:39
Two Lotus entries, presumambly 18s:
#8 Harry Carter [owner: Fred Bull of Litchfield, Conn.]
#61 Walt Hansgen [owner: Briggs Cunningham of Green Farms, Conn]
Considering the race date, they must have been first owners.
The supporting FJ race to the Oct 20/21 1962 Pacific Grand Prix at Laguna Sec has the following [no separate owners listed]:
#98 Ed Leslie, Lotus 18 [red]
#130 Harry Martin, Lotus [white, no model listed]
# 23 Al Norman, Lotus 18 [maroon]
#93 Odette Rigler, Lotus [purple, no model listed]
#164 George Sabin, Lotus [maroon/grey, no model listed]
#77 Sid Colberg, Lotus [white, no model listed]
Several 20s were entered as well and some of the above may have been 20 models.
Frank Harrison of Chattanooga owned a Formula One Lotus 18, which Lloyd Ruby raced in the U.S. GP at the Glen in 1961. I believe Harison bought it fom Jim Hall. The car was stretched later and Ruby ran the USAC races at Trenton and Milwaukee in it.
WINO
#10
Posted 24 November 2004 - 18:08
Oct 1960, support race to the Riverside Times GP
#10 Jack McCann
#51 Jay Chamberlain
Oct 1960, support race to the Laguna Seca Pacific GP
Same two, plus...
#61 Rodger Ward [owned by Cunningham]
#98 Ed Leslie
#100 Ray Seher
#126 Pat Pigott [owned by Evergreen Motor Co.]
Nov 1960, part of the Pomona Cal Club weekend
#201 Rob Nethercutt
plus a car that is listed as a Timanus/Lotus, for John Timanus.
WINO
#11
Posted 24 November 2004 - 18:32
Do we know of any Yellow Lotus 18 FJ racing in USA in 1961 ??
Kevin Whittle
#12
Posted 24 November 2004 - 21:24
I have just this one of a yellow Lotus:
Don't know which it is.
Is that a red one, second in this photo?
http://www.fototime....nail.jpg]image
Jim Lawrence may be an original owner/driver (or be acquainted with some);
I remember he was a contemporary competitor in small sports racers.
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Frank S
#13
Posted 27 November 2004 - 21:40
#14
Posted 28 November 2004 - 09:17
were any painted yellow in 1961 ?
Do you know any chassis numbers ?
Kevin Whittle
#15
Posted 28 November 2004 - 12:38
WINO
#16
Posted 28 November 2004 - 14:05
Others were
William Stevenson (18J803, NY, May)
Bob Hurt
M R J Wyllie
Timmy Mayer
Walt Hansgen June
Harry Carter July
Bob Rubin Sept
Pat Pigott Oct
Ed Leslie Oct
Jim Hall (18J 847) Nov
Bill Krause Nov
Hap Sharp Bahamas
Dick Macon Bahamas
Jose Luis Mulas (18J791) Mexico
Pedro Rodriguez Mexico (possibly not until 1961)
In addition the following raced 18s in 1961:
Floyd Aaskov
Frank Mabry
Charlie Hayes
Jack Lyles
Pete Lovely Oct
And in 1962:
Ray Herrera
Dick Petty
Ed Leslie (his 1960 car?)
Val Haefs
Ted Roberts (driverTom Milana)
Cliff Phillips
Lew Florence June
Ed Mottern June
Robert Hunnicutt Oct
William Blatt Oct
One of these, or another, was 746
1963;
Warren Shamlian
James LeMahien
And finally 1964:
Bob Fuller
Roger Ambrose
This is not presented as a complete list, but might help
#17
Posted 28 November 2004 - 18:30
Going through my SCCA magazines to link Lotus 18 drivers to certain races [Chamberlain seems to have been the first 18 entrant, finishing 3rd in the Sebring FJ race in March 1960]:
April 16, 1960, Marlboro
#2 Jesse Wyllie [DNF]
May 15, 1960, Cumberland
#34 Tim Mayer [3rd] ["newly acquired Lotus FJ, once the property of Jay Chamberlain"]
#2 Peggy Wyllie [2nd] Ladies Race
May 29/30, 1960, Bridgehampton
#34 Tim Mayer [2nd]
June 18, 1960, Road America
#34 Tim Mayer [5th]
July 2, 1960, Lime Rock
#80 Harry Carter [2nd] ["new to the rear-engined Lotus"]
July 17, 1960, CDR
#34 Tim Mayer [4th]
July 1960 Pomona
#?? Jay Chamberlain [2nd]
July 24, 1960, Meadowdale
#43 Tim Mayer [2nd]
August 6, 1960, Montgomery
#61 Walt Hansgen [1st]
#80 Harry Carter [2nd]
#20 Tim Mayer [DNF]
August 21, 1960, Louisville
#34 Tim Mayer [DNF]
September 5, 1960, Thompson
#61 Walt Hansgen [1st]
#80 Harry Carter [2nd]
September 10, 1960, Road America
#8 Harry Carter [2nd]
#61 Briggs Cunningham [DNF]
November 3, 1960, Daytona
#80 Harry Carter [1st]
#551 Bob Rubin [DNF]
September 23, 1960, Watkins Glen
#55 Bob Rubin [6th]
#80 Harry Carter [DNF]
That pretty much sums up the 1960 SCCA season and there were only a handful of 18s. None in Texas or the South east until then. Even when counting the cars on the West Coast and 1961 sales, it seems as though the number of 25 is exagerated when it comes to the U.S. market.
WINO
#18
Posted 29 November 2004 - 08:28
I was told by Nigel Halliday, from Lotus records, some 25 went out to Jay Chamberlain.
Jay was offical Lotus USA Agent/Importer
Kevin Whittle
#19
Posted 29 November 2004 - 18:35
May 1961 - Pat Pigott, Bellingham, WA, Lotus 18
July - Chuck Blaylock, Vancouver, Lotus 18
August - George Sabin, Portland, OR, Lotus 18
Sept - Pete Lovely, Seattle, WA, Lotus 18
May 1962 - Lew Florence, Seattle, WA, Lotus 18
George Sabin
Pierre Phillips, Portland, OR
Chuck Blaylock
July George Donaldson, Portland, OR, Lotus 18
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#20
Posted 29 November 2004 - 18:46
I presume that by 1961/62 a number of the 18s were on their second owner, so it is difficult to just add them to the 25 claimed to have been sold in the U.S. [or was that North America, including Mexco, the Bahamas and Canada?]
As for Billy Krause driving one, it must have been somebody's else, since Krause never owned a competition car after his D-type. But who is that William Stevenson listed as an early owner by David. Never heard of the guy. Unlikely to have been a racer, but who raced for him?
WINO
#21
Posted 29 November 2004 - 21:00
Yes, some may have been with their second owner. And the Blaylock 18 may have been shipped directly to Canada. It's a shame that the serial numbers were not always provided at time of race entries.
#22
Posted 30 November 2004 - 19:44
-William
#23
Posted 09 September 2011 - 23:13
Magee,
I presume that by 1961/62 a number of the 18s were on their second owner, so it is difficult to just add them to the 25 claimed to have been sold in the U.S. [or was that North America, including Mexco, the Bahamas and Canada?]
As for Billy Krause driving one, it must have been somebody's else, since Krause never owned a competition car after his D-type. But who is that William Stevenson listed as an early owner by David. Never heard of the guy. Unlikely to have been a racer, but who raced for him?
WINO
William Stevenson was most likely W.Fred Stevenson, who did in fact race the 18 at Lime Rock Park in Connecticut in the early 1960s. It was the beginning of a long association with Lotus as Fred would become part of the East Coast importer/distribuor Lotus/East (and Lotus Racing East) based in Millerton NY. Among the later Loti Fred would would race were a 59 in SCCA Formula B, and Formula Ford in a 61 (and maybe a 69 too).
#24
Posted 10 September 2011 - 04:00
Edit: The August 1964 issue of the same magazine has an ad "Lotus Race Sets Revisted", featuring the 30 (!), the 23B, the 7 America, and the Elan roadster. It doesn't give a price for the "set" this time, but the new Elan is offered for $3922.
Edited by JB Miltonian, 10 September 2011 - 04:14.
#25
Posted 10 September 2011 - 22:21
#26
Posted 12 November 2023 - 10:25
Westwood, B.C., Castrol Trophy Races, 6 August 1961:
#25 Lotus 18, mid-colour
#29 Lotus 20, light colour
#197 Lotus 18, mid-colour
#220 Lotus 18, mid-colour
Can anybody identify these cars? Chuck Blaylock? Pat Pigott? Pete Lovely? George Sabin?
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Edited by Rupertlt1, 12 November 2023 - 10:54.
#27
Posted 13 November 2023 - 16:59
Gus Andrey ran an unspecified Lotus #25 in 1961/'62, but unfortunately I have him at Bridgehampton the day before...
#28
Posted 14 November 2023 - 10:05
Gus Andrey ran an unspecified Lotus #25 in 1961/'62, but unfortunately I have him at Bridgehampton the day before...
Michael, I am fairly certain I have the right four drivers — I just need to allocate them to the right cars.
Possibly Pat Pigott in the Lotus 20 (by August 1961)?
Sunday 31 July 1960, Seafair, Washington: 1st Pat Pigott, Lotus Fjr; 2nd Jack Flaherty, B.M.C.
Pigott at Riverside in Lotus 20, 3rd, 14 October 1961.
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Edited by Rupertlt1, 14 November 2023 - 11:04.
#29
Posted 15 November 2023 - 08:05
Westwood, B.C., Castrol Trophy Races, 6 August 1961:
#25 Lotus 18, mid-colour
#29 Lotus 20, light colour
#197 Lotus 18, mid-colour
#220 Lotus 18, mid-colour
Can anybody identify these cars? Chuck Blaylock? Pat Pigott? Pete Lovely? George Sabin?
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Update: Definitely Pigott in the #29 Lotus 20. I think Pete Lovely in #25.
#220 Chuck Blaylock, therefore #197 George Sabin, Portland, Oregon?
Race run in three heats.
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Edited by Rupertlt1, 15 November 2023 - 08:42.
#30
Posted 16 November 2023 - 04:21
#47 Lotus 18 Formula Junior.
Chassis number J/719. Colour green.
Pat Pigott, Bellingham, Washington.
White helmet, distinctive cross brace on rollbar.
Ran #47 at Westwood, B.C., Sunday 9 April, 1961.
See Canada Track & Traffic, June 1961, Page 39.
So what happened to this car when Pigott traded up to a Lotus 20, later Lotus 22?
See also Post #19.
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Edited by Rupertlt1, 16 November 2023 - 04:40.
#31
Posted 16 November 2023 - 05:45
Sacramento, 14 May 1961
Registering his second Cali-
fornia win in two months, Pat
Pigott, of Belling (sic), Wash.,
made a shambles of the For-
mula Jr. race. Winning by 1
minute, 11 seconds over the
second place car driven by
Jack Dalton, of Berkeley, in
a BMC Jr.
Pigott averaged 70.2 m.p.h.
in his Lotus Mark XX, for the
best time of the day. Best
trap time of the race was
clocked by Bruce Eglinton,
of South Pasadena, whose
Lotus was timed through the
traps at 110.3 m.p.h.
Odette "Frenchy" Bigler
the San Rafael girl who drives
as well as a man, showed 12
men drivers the way, as she
managed a solid third, 4 sec-
onds ahead of Ray Altman of
Oakland.
Formula Junior—Overall—1. Pat Pigott,
#34 Lotus XX; 2. Jack Dalton, BMC Junior,
3. #93 Odette Bigler, Lotus.
Average Speed: 70.2 miles per hour, 35 laps
Pigott also 3rd in the Modified race.
Eglinton, South Pasadena, Lotus 18?
Bigler in green #93 Lotus 18? (Not Rigler as shown in Post #9)
Here at Laguna Seca:
https://library.revs...una-seca/170157
Here at Cotati:
https://library.revs...g/cotati/399256
https://library.revs...g/cotati/394476
Also entered Stead AFB, Reno, Nevada, 23-24 September 1961.
Over-all and Junior One — 1. Jack
McAfee, Burbank, Lotus 20, 80.0 mph;
2. Strother Jones, San Anselmo, Lotus 20;
3. Tom Milano, North Hollywood, Lotus 18. (Milana)
Reno in 1962:
https://library.revs...org/reno/332150
See also: http://www.tamsoldra...laJuniors2.html
Ray Altman from Oakland, California.
LOTUS 18 F-Jr. #69
85 HP Martin Cosworth Engine.
4 Spd. Gordini or 5 spd. Colotti
gearbox. Spares. Fastest Mk 18
in Calif. Ready to race. Eth-
ridge & Eglinton, 2048 LaFrance
Ave., So. Pasadena, Calif. SY-
9-8214.
MotoRacing and Economy Car News, Vol. 7 Issue 12, Apr 13-20, 1962, Page 7
(possibly Eldridge)
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Edited by Rupertlt1, 19 November 2023 - 10:18.
#32
Posted 18 November 2023 - 07:28
LOTUS FORMULA JR.
18 with latest 20 specs,
EX-Jack McAfee Pacific Point Champ. car.
Xlnt Cond, Chrome crank, Sell or
Trade. Trailer avali, Tom Milana,
10707 Landale, No, Hollywd. Calif,
HO 6-3553 TR 7-2222 (L.A.)
MotoRacing and Economy Car News, Vol. 7 Issue 12, Apr 13-20, 1962, Page 7
Red #223 here: http://www.tamsoldra...laJuniors7.html
Jack McAfee, Burbank, #88 at Stockton, 1961: https://library.revs...stockton/405826
(16 April 1961? Steve Froines, Oakland, Lotus?)
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Edited by Rupertlt1, 19 November 2023 - 08:12.
#33
Posted 18 November 2023 - 13:05
Red #98 Ed Leslie, Monterey, at Cotati, 10 September 1960:
https://library.revs...l-cotati/442861
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Edited by Rupertlt1, 19 November 2023 - 08:05.
#34
Posted 18 November 2023 - 18:57
Green #100 Lotus 18, driver Ray Seher, at Laguna Seca, 22 October 1960:
https://library.revs...una-seca/453629
Seher from Reno, Nevada. Later with Lotus 20.
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Edited by Rupertlt1, 19 November 2023 - 07:54.