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#1 VDP

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Posted 23 November 2004 - 16:37

I m looking for info on this race Results and reason for a shortened version of the 24 hours

I already know that the 24 hours were chaotic before WWII

Was it open to pure sports cars or modified tourism cars (ad least 4 seaters) ?

1 Desvignes / Mahé Bugatti ?
2 Vasselle / J Trévoux Hotchkiss
3 C Pintacuda/ H Stoffel Lancia Astura ?
4 Paolino / James Buick
5 ?
6 Elwes / Tongue Aston Martin Ulster ?


Thanks in advance

Robert

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#2 GIGLEUX

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Posted 23 November 2004 - 19:26

In 1934, the 24 Hours of Spa were replaced by a 10 Hours event.

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Posted 23 November 2004 - 19:47

5th were du Roy de Bliquy-de Berc on Bugatti 1042,771 km, average 104,277 km/h of course. They also 1st in the 1101-2000cc category.
Class winners:
-+4000cc Colas Hudson 1037,496 km.
-3001 to 4000cc: Trévoux-Vasselle Hotchkiss 1160,944 km
-2001 to 3000cc: Desvignes-Mahé Bugatti 1166, 110 km
-under 1100cc Breyer-Pizzimenti Fiat 972,663 km

#4 Hugo Boecker

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Posted 24 November 2004 - 17:14

There were 33 Starters in 5 classes:
more than 4 litre
1 old Bentley 4,5 from the end of the 30's
1 Railton with a Hudson-Terraplane engine 8 Cyl
2 Hudson 8Cyl. 4,1Litre
from 3 upto 4 litre
1 Buick 8 Cyl
1 Studebacker roadster
1 Plymouth
2 Hotchkiss 6 cylindre
1 Terraplane
from 2 upto 3 litre
1 Bugatti 3 litre ((Desvignes
3 Lancia Astura 8 Cyl. (Pintacuda/
1 Lancia 4 Cyl 2,7litre
from 1,1 upto 2 litre
1 Bugatti 2 litre
1 Aston Martin 1500
1 Singer 1900cc
4 Imperia (Adler) 1650cc traction avant
1 old 6 cyl Imperia
1 old FN
upto 1,1 litre
2 Amilcar
2 Tracta
3 BNC
1 MG
1 Fiat Balilla Sport


more to come ....

#5 Hugo Boecker

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Posted 24 November 2004 - 18:17


Spa 10 Stundenrennen 1934 



Klasse über 4 litre



#2  Hertzberger/				  Bentley 4,5 from the end of the 30's		1.CL  108,7km/h

#4										Railton with a Hudson-Terraplane engine 8 Cyl

#6  Andre/Colas				   Hudson 8Cyl. 4,1Litre		 			2.CL

#8										Hudson 8Cyl. 4,1Litre



from 3 upto 4 litre 



#20 James/Paolino				 Buick 8 Cyl										  2.CL

#24 Helaers/Thelusson		Studebacker roadster				3.CL

											 Plymouth

		Fernand Sommer		  Hotchkiss 6 cylindre 

#28  Trevoux /Vaselle		  Hotchkiss 6 cylindre 				1.CL 116,09km/h

											 Terraplane



from 2 upto 3 litre 



#40  Desvignes/Mahe		  Bugatti 3 litre				1.CL 116,615km/h

#48  Pintacuda/Nardini		Lancia Astura 8 Cyl.				2.CL

#46  Gouvion					   Lancia Astura 8 Cyl.				4.CL

											Lancia Astura 8 Cyl.  

#50  Dickey/Gary				 Lancia 4 Cyl 2,7litre				3.CL



from 1,1 upto 2 litre 



#72  de Blicquy					Bugatti 2 litre 				1.CL 104,277km/h

#74  Vincent/Elwes			  Aston Martin 1500				2.CL

											Singer 1900cc				4.CL

#60									  Imperia (Adler) 1650cc traction avant		3.CL

#62  Hasse/Beck				  Imperia (Adler) 1650cc traction avant					5.CL

#64								 Imperia (Adler) 1650cc traction avant		6.CL

											 Imperia (Adler) 1650cc traction avant

#68									   old 6 cyl Imperia SS				7.CL

#76									   old FN					8.CL



upto 1,1 litre 

#80									   Amilcar					4.CL

#98									   Amilcar					7.CL

											 Tracta

											 Tracta

#90								 BNC					5.CL

#92					 BNC					3.CL

#94					 BNC					6.CL

#82					 MG-Midget					  2.CL

#96 Breyre/Pizzimenti		  Fiat Balilla Sport	 			1.CL   97,266km/h


#6 VDP

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Posted 24 November 2004 - 18:45

Thanks Hugo, Jean Maurice

Is Fernand Sommer relative to Raymond Sommer ?
The imperia were they Adler Trumpf under license ?
FN should be 1300 Sport
Aston Martin according Leif site Tongue ???

Again thanks a lot

Robert

#7 Hugo Boecker

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Posted 24 November 2004 - 19:03

Is Fernand Sommer relative to Raymond Sommer ? Yes He is Raymonds brother
The imperia were they Adler Trumpf under license ? Yes theese cars are belgium Adler

#8 Holger Merten

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Posted 24 November 2004 - 20:33

Great Guys, with all respect, this is the old TNF style, a question will come in and one day later the results are online. Great. :clap:

#9 VDP

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Posted 24 November 2004 - 21:06

Bentley 4.5 ?? Supercharged ??

Robert

#10 Hugo Boecker

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Posted 25 November 2004 - 12:22

The start
#2 is the 41/2 litre Bentley. Seems to be one of the old Le Mans cars.
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#11 David McKinney

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Posted 25 November 2004 - 13:37

Presumably the car behind the Hudson :cool:

#12 Marc Ceulemans

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Posted 02 December 2004 - 01:38

Oh ! I missed that thread...

The entry list

more than 4 litre
2, Bentley 4384 cc, Eddy Hertzberger / (Kuppens)
4, Railton Hudson-Terraplane 4137 cc, Etienne Hage / Rosar
6, Hudson cabriolet 4168 cc, A. Colas / Ernest André
8, Hudson 4168 cc, H. J. Davis
10, Bugatti 5230 cc, Georges Bouriano / Max Thirion

from 3 upto 4 litre
20, Buick conduite intérieure 3820 cc, "James" / "Paolino"
22, Hotchkiss 3485 cc, "Remmos" = Fernand Sommer / Jean Delmer
24, Studebaker roadster 3621 cc, Freddy Théllusson / R. M. Hélaers
26, Essex Terraplane 3980 cc, Bravard
28, Hotchkiss 3500 cc, Jean Trévoux / Maurice Vasselle
30, Plymouth, P. Colmant / E. Declercq

from 2 upto 3 litre
40, Bugatti T44 us/c 2989 cc, Jean Desvignes / Norbert-Jean Mahé
42, Lancia Astura 2972 cc, Canciani / Spana
44, Lancia 2600 cc, Rovere / Camandone
46, Lancia Astura 2972 cc, Franz Gouvion / Guerrini
48, Lancia Astura 2972 cc, Carlo Pintacuda / Nardilli or Henri Stoffel
50, Lancia 2700 cc, "Dickery" = Laloux / "Gary" = Dejardin

from 1,1 upto 2 litre
60, Imperia Adler 1623 cc, O. Loehr / Hoffmann
62, Imperia Adler 1623 cc, Rudolf Hasse / Beck
64, Imperia Adler 1623 cc, Paul Schweder / Decerf
66, Imperia SS 1900 cc, Paul von Guilleaume / (Courtois)
68, Imperia SS 1800 cc, G. Hagemeyer / Smits
70, Bugatti 1990 cc, Bernard Chaudé / G. Foury
72, Bugatti 1990 cc, S. du Roy de Blicquy / de Berc
74, Aston Martin 1496 cc, Jim C. Elwes / "A.Vincent" = Reggie Tongue
76, FN 1850 cc, R. Pons / Beaupain
78, Singer 1191 cc, E. Ogez / Abel Blin d'Orimont or Renard

upto 1,1 litre
80, Amilcar, Arthur Duray / (de Gabardie)
82, MG Midget 847 cc, F. Humblet / Guy Hilgers
84, Tracta 1098 cc, H. Perrier / Dubourg
86, Tracta 1098 cc, D. Marchand / Pierre Perrier
88, Fiat Ballila 995 cc, Oscar Chilesotti /
90, BNC 1088 cc, Pierre Duval / André Sirejols
92, BNC 1097 cc, Manuel / Jean Treunet
94, BNC 996 cc, Alin / Métais
96, Fiat 508 Ballila 6 CV 995 cc, Franz Breyre / Pizzimenti
98, Amilcar 1076 cc, C. Demoulin / R. Raway

#13 Marc Ceulemans

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Posted 02 December 2004 - 01:42

I would like to post the class results, as there was no official overall rankings, but I first have to compile all my sources... Very difficult to choose the best as I've seen lot's of discrepencies !