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#1 gerard BARATHIEU

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Posted 10 December 2004 - 17:34

does anyone had a photo of the OWEN RACING ORGANISATION MASERATI 250F

driven by Ken WARTHON at the FRENCH GP in 1954.

Color will be extra .

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#2 Mischa Bijenhof

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Posted 10 December 2004 - 18:22

You'll find one, albeit in B/W, on this wonderful website

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#3 AAA-Eagle

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Posted 10 December 2004 - 19:32

One more photo, but also B/W:

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#4 KarlOakie Research

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Posted 10 December 2004 - 19:41

Originally posted by Mischa Bijenhof
You'll find one, albeit in B/W, on this wonderful website


....which is so error-ridden as to be next to useless :rolleyes: . An update is being prepared for the IMRRC web site when it is revised in the on-coming weeks.

#5 gerard BARATHIEU

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Posted 11 December 2004 - 11:24

about the pic why do you think about these three colors:

pale green on the nose,red on the body and dark blue on the back ?

#6 David McKinney

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Posted 11 December 2004 - 13:46

I wonder if the nose-cone had some covering to protect the paintwork from stone-chipping?
Can't explain the different colour for the tank though
I can't believe the main body colour would be anything but BRM Racing Green

#7 Rob G

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Posted 11 December 2004 - 15:08

Was the Owen Racing Organization green as dark back then as it was in the 1960s? If so, might it have a green tail and red main body? When did they purchase the car?

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Posted 11 December 2004 - 15:28

I had always been under the impression that the variations were due to the film & are procession used, which barring whatever Barrie has to say, is about as good a guess as I can make. I do remember asking about this photo and that was essentially the answer I got.

Chassis Number 2509

Jenkinson, 1966 – New 1954 car for Rubery Owen.

Jenkinson, 1967 – New July 1954 for A.G. Owen for B.R.M. team. Driven by Ken Wharton, Peter Collins. Sold to Jack Brabham and then in New Zealand.

Jenkinson, 1975 – Completed July 1954 for A.G. Owen for BRM team. Driven by Ken Wharton, Peter Collins. Sold to Jack Brabham and then went to New Zealand. Now in collection in New Zealand.

Pritchard, 1976 – Delivered to the Owen Organisation in time for Ken Wharton to drive it in the French Grand Prix in July 1954. In 1955 it was driven for Owen by Peter Collins (who won the Daily Express Trophy at Silverstone) and in early 1956 by Mike Hawthorn (who finished in the Argentine Grand Prix). It was then sold to Jack Brabham who raced it in a few British events before taking it to Australia where he sold it. Chris Amon gained his early racing experience in New Zealand with this car. It is now in a private collection in New Zealand. This car was extensively modified by the Owen Organisation and featured Dunlop magnesium-alloy wheels and disc brakes.

Nye, 1981 – New 250F completed July 1954 for Owen Organisation (BRM) team. Reputedly took frame from ‘Bira’s’ first true 250F ‘2504’ after British GP and before its own race debut. Extensively modified by Tony Rudd to enhance torsional rigidity and power, fitted Dunlop disc brakes, driven by Ken Wharton and Peter Collins. Owen Org. very unhappy with parts supplied by Maserati. Sold to Jack Brabham, who hated it, then to New Zealand where Chris Amon drove it, among others. Today still in New Zealand, owned by Len Southwood.

Pritchard 1985 – Delivered to the Owen Organisation in time for Ken Wharton to drive it in the 1954 French Grand Prix. Modified by the Owen Organisation with Dunlop magnesium-alloy wheels and disc brakes. Driven by Peter Collins in 1955, sold to Jack Brabham in 1956 and then to Chris Amon, who raced it in New Zealand.

Jenkinson, 1986 – This car was built to the order of the Owen Racing Organisation, the owners of BRM. The idea was to allow the BRM team drives and race organisation to get some practical experience in the Grand Prix races of 1954, while the new BRM was being built. Not content with a standard 250F the BRM team first of all replaced any part that they knew had failed, or broken on other 250F cars, and also made many modifications from their own racing experience, as well as trying out mechanical tings that would be appearing on the new BRM. It was acting as a sort of mobile test-bed. Ken Wharton, Peter Collins and Mike Hawthorn drove it. After the BRM team had finished with it, it passed to Jack Brabham, and when it went out to New Zealand it was acquitted by Chris Amon. It was still in its BRM-modified form, and raced until no longer competitive, when it went into retirement in a museum. It still resides in Sir Len Southwood’s museum in New Zealand and is in totally unrestored and original (BRM original) condition.

Nye, 1989 – Completed July 1954, for Owen Racing Organisation (BRM), original frame swopped with ‘Bira’s’ ‘2504’, extensively modified for Wharton, Collins, Hawthorn, to Jack Brabham 1955, to New Zealand, now in NZ collection. Won 1955 BRDC International Trophy (Collins).

Nye, 1993 – Owen Organisation (BRM team) customer car – Ken Wharton, French GP, July 1954 – Swapped owners to become ‘2504’ – ‘B. Bira’ customer car – from Caen GP, July 1954. NOTES – BRM swapped its original ‘2509’ car with ‘Bira’ because their driver Ron Flockhart has crashed his original ‘2504’ during the 1954 British GP, causing extensive damage. His original damaged ‘2504’ became ‘2509’ – the Owen Maserati – thereafter. What had become ‘2504’ was later re-chassised at the factory, then sold ex=’Bira’ to Bruce Halford, to Horace Gould, to Ross Jensen, New Zealand – 1960, in complicated body/chassis swap involving ‘2523©’, this car became the Tec-Mec Chevrolet – more recently to UK, restored as original ‘2504’, to German collection. Won 1955 New Zealand GP (‘Bira’).

McKinney, 1995 – New to Owen Organisation 1954 and driven by Wharton. Renumbered ‘2504’ and used by Bira until early 1955. Leased to Gould, then sold to Bruce Halford for 1956/57/58. Rebodied before 1957 season, and again (in Piccolo style) 1958 for Ross Jensen in NZ. Returned to Italy and fitted 1960 with V8 Chevrolet engine and bodywork from ‘2501/2523’ and sold via Jensen to Mansel NZ, possibly as ‘2523’. Raced by him 1961, Rod Coppins (including as central-seat sports car) 1962-63. Dave O’Connor and Leon Witte NZ un-raced. To UK for Cameron Millar 1973 and renumbered ‘2504’ during rebuild which included fitting of 1954-type bodywork for Chris Mann. Sold to Count Hubertus von Dönhoff in Germany 1981 and to Peter Gläsel 1995. See also 2504.

Pritchard, 2003 – Built for Owen Racing Organisation and raced by them until the new BRM P25 was ready. It was extensively modified, including the fitting of Dunlop disc brakes and magnesium-alloy wheels. It was sold to Jack Brabham in 1956 and then to New Zealand where Chris Amon raced it. Later it was in a New Zealand museum. The Schlumpf Collection has a car numbered ‘2511’ built up with chassis frame ‘2509’. BRM (Ron Flockhart at the wheel) crashed ‘2504’ while on loan from Bira and chassis frames were swapped.

McKinney, 2003 – New to the Owen Organisation in 1954 and driven by Ken Wharton. Renumbered as ‘2504’ and used by Bira until early 1955. Leased to Gould, then sold to Bruce Halford for 1956-58. Rebodied before the 1957 season, and then again (using the Piccolo style) in 1958 for Ross Jensen in New Zealand. Returned to Italy and fitted in 1960 with Chevrolet Corvette V8 engine and the bodywork from ‘2501/2523’ and sold via Jensen to Mansel in New Zealand, possibly as ‘2523’. Raced by him in 1961, then Rod Coppins (including as single-seat sports car) in 1962-63. Dave O’Connor and Leon Witte, New Zealand, not raced. To the UK in 1973 and renumbered as ‘2504’ during rebuild, including fitting of 1954-type bodywork for Chris Mann. Sold to Count Hubertus von Dönhoff in Germany in 1981 and to Peter Gläsel in 1995. Won 1955 New Zealand GP (Bira). 2002 location: Germany (Peter Gläsel). Note: Number also used on ‘2504’.



#9 Rob29

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Posted 11 December 2004 - 17:52

Originally posted by Rob G
Was the Owen Racing Organization green as dark back then as it was in the 1960s? If so, might it have a green tail and red main body? When did they purchase the car?

I saw that car at Crystal Palace May 30 1955,when driven by Peter Collins. Green was so dark I would have sworn at the time it was black. But any noseband had dissapeared by then.

#10 David McKinney

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Posted 11 December 2004 - 20:31

Not the same car, Rob

#11 Rob29

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Posted 12 December 2004 - 09:17

Thanks David,another 50 year old missinformation corrected! having re-read the previous lengthy post,I guess that explains it.

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Posted 12 December 2004 - 11:49

I have built the Renaissance 1/43rd scale kit of this car.

They claim the car was dark blue!!! Cant see that being correct? so i have done it in the usual dark green. All the photos i have seen are in Dougs BRM Vol 1 there is no nose band or multi colours evident in any photo there.

Again i have never seen a multicolour BRM yet!!!!!!!!!! :)

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Posted 12 December 2004 - 15:10

Originally posted by BRM MICK
I have built the Renaissance 1/43rd scale kit of this car.

They claim the car was dark blue!!! Cant see that being correct? so i have done it in the usual dark green. All the photos i have seen are in Dougs BRM Vol 1 there is no nose band or multi colours evident in any photo there.

Again i have never seen a multicolour BRM yet!!!!!!!!!! :)

Mick

Depends what car the kit is claiming to be of. History of these cars is VERY complicated-see previous posts. The 'Bira' car was dark blue.
Re; multi colored BRMs only one I recall was supplied to my favourite driver at the time(1962) Jack Lewis.A 1961 car fitted with the V8 engine.painted BRG with white, red,white stripes down the nose.

#14 David McKinney

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Posted 12 December 2004 - 18:17

Originally posted by Rob29
The 'Bira' car was dark blue.

Really :confused:

#15 Barry Boor

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Posted 12 December 2004 - 22:15

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I must confess, Rob29, this is news to me - and to Mr. McKinney too, I suspect!

#16 Rob29

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Posted 13 December 2004 - 08:43

Oh dear! Nice model Barry! Having established that the Wharton car became the Bira one,I had always asumed that it was the same darkish shade of blue as the Dinky Toy Ferrari,which never existed in real life. Never saw the Maserati in Biras hands but on colour film of 1955 British GP in Goulds hands seems to be a dark blue.

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Posted 13 December 2004 - 09:19

Rob29
Please see your PMs
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#18 BRM MICK

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Posted 13 December 2004 - 18:59

I have checked the reniassance web site .
it states the model is Whartons Silverstone car. It has a lovely picture of the model in a Royal shade of Blue.

Mick :rotfl:

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Posted 13 December 2004 - 20:19

Just checked my copy ofthe film 'Grand Prix Trio' At Zandvoot Gould's car was still in Bira colours as per Barry's model. By Aintree 4 weeks later it seems to have turned a dark shade of blue. Now I need to remember where I have seen film of 1954 races in colour.

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#20 Barry Boor

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Posted 13 December 2004 - 22:28

I don't want to drag up the dreaded blue/green argument again :rolleyes: but I always believed Gould repainted the Bira car in a fairly standard dark green.

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Posted 06 February 2005 - 13:14

gentlemen,

any help to the venerable historians.

Does any bobody have the report about this french GP in AUTOSPORT in 1954 issue.

Is -it some indication of the colour of the car in this FRENCH GP ?

thanks in advance .

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Posted 06 February 2005 - 15:02

No indication in the ACF (and not french GP) GP report in Autosport nor in the "Rheims reflections"
published in the following issue.

#23 gerard BARATHIEU

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Posted 06 February 2005 - 15:25

thank you JEAN -MAURICE,

have you some indication of the colour of the car in the report of the british GP ?

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Posted 06 February 2005 - 17:33

Nothing too in the two issues of Autosport covering the British GP but in The Autocar of July 16th
these few words:"With the privately entered Maseratis of Moss, Salvadori and Wharton (all in British racing green)..."

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 09:43

Bumping this cos some chap has written to The Telegraph seeking info on Wharton...is he anyone that posts here?

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 11:45

Here is a photo of Ken Wharton's Maserati 250F which I took at the Australian Grand Prix at Albert Park in December 1956.
The car was entered under Ecurie Du Puy.

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There was also a short note on his background in the program -

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#27 gerard BARATHIEU

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 19:58

Kaybee,

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here is the photo ,I received fom BARRY HOPKIRK.

the same car at the same event was silver !!!

on your photo it was blue !!!

what a big myster ?

i hope my scan will be good.

i have some problem to send the photo.

best salutations.

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 20:03

Gerard, the first picture does not show a blue car; it is the tint of the print I suspect.

I see it as silver.

BTW, your image shack link does not bring up the photo on my computer.

#29 Gerard Gamand

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 20:27

Gérard Hello

Tu dois faire à la fin sinon on ne voit rien !!
Ne pas oublier le /
Amicalement

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 22:18

Barry, you are correct about the blue tint as the white overalls show this as well.
By the way, I am also unable to open Gerard's photo.

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 22:40

Originally posted by kaydee
By the way, I am also unable to open Gerard's photo.


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#32 David McKinney

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 22:55

The point should perhaps be made that the 250F Wharton raced in Australia at the end of 1956 was not the one(s) he had raced in 1954

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 23:24

Originally posted by kaydee

By the way, I am also unable to open Gerard's photo.

Fixed. Well, kind of - it's rather small...

Edit: Sorry Geoff; I'd not noticed that you'd also done the same thing!