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#8251 fazz

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 18:16

Originally posted by picblanc


Hi Karl, interesting info on the TR750 photo. :up:
Sadly no other pics of the Charlie Sanby bike though. :(

In the history of the bike Joey Dunlop won the Schweppes tt on in 1977 his mechanics used the Charlie Sanby chassis and put in the 700 or 750 yam engine it was mentioned recently in an edition of Classic racer. With the quote that this bike was damaged in the first corner pile up at Brands in 1975. Is it the same bike you are talking about.;)
Regards Mark

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#8252 picblanc

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 18:26

Originally posted by fazz
In the history of the bike Joey Dunlop won the Schweppes tt on in 1977 his mechanics used the Charlie Sanby chassis and put in the 700 or 750 yam engine it was mentioned recently in an edition of Classic racer. With the quote that this bike was damaged in the first corner pile up at Brands in 1975. Is it the same bike you are talking about.;)
Regards Mark


I read that Mark, it inferred that the Pat Mahoney bike was a Seeley, it most definitely wasn't, but maybe the engine came from the Mahoney bike Joey used? :confused: :wave:

#8253 GT Karl

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 23:25

Originally posted by GD66
Good quiz, Karl, that had the brain cells jangling ! Although, to be fair, Phil Read rode an RG500 in the Isle of Man one year for Bob White Racing, as well as the 1976 Life-sponsored RG he rode in the 500 Grands Prix, spannered by Geoff Howie. Keep 'em coming, son....


Yes right, he rode a RG 500 in the G.P.'s in 1976 (white fairing with stripes) , as i know equipped with a works engine, but not the best one....!

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Posted 23 January 2008 - 00:03

Originally posted by picblanc
This one is for GT Karl, who appears to be a GT750/TR750 man?
I don't know who this one belonged too, but he was European and Blonde I seem to remember, he is just on the left! and was an addition to the 1975 Silverstone FIM 750 race that weekend.
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So guys, i have to correct myself, it's not a Spondon frame, it's a Seeley, the rear swingarm and swingarmpivot, the rear shocks etc.. Have compared it with some other examples. As we know now the Sheene Seeley TR is a kind of a prototype, the later Seeley frames for the GT/TR engine, i would say the standart type, is a bit different in construction!
The ignition cover is surely a Barton Motors part. Barry Hart offered also a six speed gear box (and a dry clutch conversion) kit for the GT750 engine... one year before the works riders got one in their bikes :blush:

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The rider is surely out of the U.K. (or maybe an italian) shifting on the right side....!

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Posted 23 January 2008 - 00:38

Originally posted by fazz
In the history of the bike Joey Dunlop won the Schweppes tt on in 1977 his mechanics used the Charlie Sanby chassis and put in the 700 or 750 yam engine it was mentioned recently in an edition of Classic racer. With the quote that this bike was damaged in the first corner pile up at Brands in 1975. Is it the same bike you are talking about.;)
Regards Mark


Hm, is that possible :confused: , beside Grahams picture(it's from 1976) i've seen only one other pic of that "Bryants of Biggleswade TR750", it shows also the front side. I would say it looks like a "high boy" type Suzuki frame, the front end is surely TR750(or RG500, was the same at that time). Scott Sanby told me that his uncle have had a good contact to Barry Sheene and was surely able to got some, outdated "special parts" (maybe a complete old bike) out of this source. Maybe there is someone here in the forum who can tell us more about.

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Posted 23 January 2008 - 01:14

Originally posted by GT Karl


Hm, is that possible :confused: , beside Grahams picture(it's from 1976) i've seen only one other pic of that "Bryants of Biggleswade TR750", it shows also the front side. I would say it looks like a "high boy" type Suzuki frame, the front end is surely TR750(or RG500, was the same at that time). Scott Sanby told me that his uncle have had a good contact to Barry Sheene and was surely able to got some, outdated "special parts" (maybe a complete old bike) out of this source. Maybe there is someone here in the forum who can tell us more about.

Karl

Karl / Graham this is only a wild Guess but the fact that you mention "Bryants of Biggleswade TR750", could the rider be Mike Trimby as he lived in that area when he had a TZ 750 ( or could have been an OWO1 cant remember) HTH Julian

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Posted 23 January 2008 - 08:53

Originally posted by picblanc
This one is for GT Karl, who appears to be a GT750/TR750 man?
I don't know who this one belonged too, but he was European and Blonde I seem to remember, he is just on the left! and was an addition to the 1975 Silverstone FIM 750 race that weekend.
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Just had a look through the programme again, I know there not totally reliable but...here goes, on TR750 that weekend were,
Woods,Sheene,Newbold in Heron colours so not one of theirs.
Lansivouri,Smart, I have pictures of them its not theirs,
but also that day was,
Gordon Pantall and....Charlie Sanby on TR750, so it probably belongs to one of them?
Charlie Qualified on the back row of the grid to, where as Pantall did not qualify or did not turn up for the meeting?
So this could be the Sanby bike "Dear Watson" ;)
Over to you again Karl. :wave:

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Posted 23 January 2008 - 09:42

Heres a challenge for you all I'm trying to find any info possible on a guy called Pete Davey who was a part of mike hailwoods team at some point in time . All I know about him is that he owned or worked in a motorbike shop in sleaford in lincolnshire :confused: Can any of you guys help please ?

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Posted 23 January 2008 - 19:04

Originally posted by andyb1963
Heres a challenge for you all I'm trying to find any info possible on a guy called Pete Davey who was a part of mike hailwoods team at some point in time . All I know about him is that he owned or worked in a motorbike shop in sleaford in lincolnshire :confused: Can any of you guys help please ?


What do you mean by part of mike hailwoods team at some point in time .
Which year ? Would Pauline knows ?

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Posted 23 January 2008 - 19:10

A new Where and all the others.

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Posted 23 January 2008 - 19:44

Originally posted by PilotesdeLegende
A new Where and all the others.

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Just a guess based on the leathers and helmet, though it appears he has a splatt pattern on the back of it, which worries me a little : : Don Emde?, somewhere abroad for us in UK, or Europe for you guys already there!! :drunk:
Imola?

Where's the picture gone Henri? or did I dream it!! :lol:

ahhh its back!!

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Posted 23 January 2008 - 20:10

Originally posted by picblanc


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t a guess based on the leathers and helmet, though it appears he has a splatt pattern on the back of it, which worries me a little : : Don Emde?, somewhere abroad for us in UK, or Europe for you guys already there!! :drunk:
Imola?

Where's the picture gone Henri? or did I dream it!! :lol:

ahhh its back!!

Hello Graham, nice to hear from you !
Seems no one was on the forum today !
I have a problem with that pic and Image shack.
I am going to reduce the size. Give me ten minutes.

#8263 picblanc

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Posted 23 January 2008 - 20:37

Originally posted by PilotesdeLegende

Hello Graham, nice to hear from you !
Seems no one was on the forum today !
I have a problem with that pic and Image shack.
I am going to reduce the size. Give me ten minutes.


Still Don Emde ;) :lol:

#8264 PilotesdeLegende

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Posted 23 January 2008 - 20:39

Originally posted by picblanc


Still Don Emde ;) :lol:

NO ! :smoking:

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Posted 23 January 2008 - 20:43

Originally posted by PilotesdeLegende

NO ! :smoking:


Tony Smith?..... :lol: :lol:

#8266 picblanc

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Posted 23 January 2008 - 20:44

It is Imola though? :

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Posted 23 January 2008 - 21:52

I am on my own now! :(

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Posted 23 January 2008 - 22:23

:wave: No you're not Graham whats new ;)

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 06:46

It does look like Imola. Eric Offenstadt ?

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 11:29

the background look like a no-permanent circuit, but??? perhaps a Konig bike... :confused:

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 11:49

Originally posted by antony duprat
the background look like a no-permanent circuit, but??? perhaps a Konig bike... :confused:

After a little reflexion...it look like your T. Smith school ' H.D. 750XR with a Aermacchi racer from this périod named Gouy : ...if i remember

#8272 andyb1963

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 15:40

Originally posted by PilotesdeLegende


What do you mean by part of mike hailwoods team at some point in time .
Which year ? Would Pauline knows ?

I don't know much more apparently it was around the start of Mike's career ( about 50 years ago ). The bike shop in Sleaford was called Kings :blush:

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 17:19

Originally posted by andyb1963

I don't know much more apparently it was around the start of Mike's career ( about 50 years ago ). The bike shop in Sleaford was called Kings :blush:

:wave: Thats interesting andy . Stan Hailwood owned a string of bike shops called 'Kings of Oxford ' :up:

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 17:41

Originally posted by fil2.8
:wave: No you're not Graham whats new ;)


Hello Phil, :wave: hah!! not much.... I had an early night in the end!! Where is Henri? I want to know the answer to the piccy quiz!

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 17:43

Originally posted by antony duprat

After a little reflexion...it look like your T. Smith school ' H.D. 750XR with a Aermacchi racer from this périod named Gouy : ...if i remember


The name Gougy rings a bell Antony, you think its a 750 Harley then?

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 17:48

Originally posted by picblanc


Hello Phil, :wave: hah!! not much.... I had an early night in the end!! Where is Henri? I want to know the answer to the piccy quiz!

:love: must have been on a promise :kiss: ;)

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 18:01

Originally posted by fil2.8
:love: must have been on a promise :kiss: ;)


I wish!! them days are long gone mate!! This Forum is my only source of excitement now!! :D :rolleyes: :eek:

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 18:21

Originally posted by picblanc


Hello Phil, :wave: hah!! not much.... I had an early night in the end!! Where is Henri? I want to know the answer to the piccy quiz!


Here I am :wave:
Gongrats to you and Antony.
Yes it's Tony Smith on the first XR 750 in Europe at Imola In 1973.
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The meeting sticker
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The sticker of one of the sponsor's of the racing School.
If someone want them in High definition, just E-mail me.
You're right fil2.8, I was at my girl friend's place and while am with her I can't talk about motorcycles...
But it's OK :drunk:

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 18:27

Originally posted by picblanc


I wish!! them days are long gone mate!! This Forum is my only source of excitement now!! :D :rolleyes: :eek:

;) :) At least Henri :yawn: had a result :drunk: :cool:

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 18:45

Originally posted by picblanc


I wish!! them days are long gone mate!! This Forum is my only source of excitement now!! :D :rolleyes: :eek:


Thank God I say. At least now we can get on with our lives without always being side tracked. :up: :rotfl:

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 18:52

Here another Ws

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 18:54

Another easy one of a gentleman ! :)

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 19:36

Originally posted by PilotesdeLegende
Here another Ws

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It looks like Mallory Park, I thought I was going to get this one, but its not 2007, Post TT (I was there) so must be 2006?(and I wasn't there!!) :

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 20:03

Originally posted by picblanc


It looks like Mallory Park, I thought I was going to get this one, but its not 2007, Post TT (I was there) so must be 2006?(and I wasn't there!!) :


MALLORY 2002. Under the rain. Ago was there and did only 3 laps.
He hates parading under water without an umbrella :lol:

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 20:04

Originally posted by PilotesdeLegende
Another easy one of a gentleman ! :)

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Looks like one J. Dunphy.

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 20:11

Originally posted by PilotesdeLegende


MALLORY 2002. Under the rain. Ago was there and did only 3 laps.
He hates parading under water without an umbrella :lol:


Clue please Henri for the Matchless rider?;) :kiss:

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 20:25

Originally posted by Russell Burrows


Looks like one J. Dunphy.

:wave:
Yes that's him.

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 20:28

Originally posted by PilotesdeLegende
:wave:
Yes that's him.


Merci. What about the other dude Henri. Is the helmet design similar to the original?

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 20:41

Originally posted by Russell Burrows


Merci. What about the other dude Henri. Is the helmet design similar to the original?


He never won any major race but enjoy racing at his pace.
His nickname is "The Walrus".
He participate at the Belgium Championship for years now.

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 20:43

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The 'ol boy's ageing well !

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 20:48

Originally posted by PilotesdeLegende


He never won any major race but enjoy racing at his pace.
His nickname is "The Walrus".
He participate at the Belgium Championship for years now.


Was he a fairly well known two stroke pilot from the seventies?

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 20:55

Originally posted by Russell Burrows
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The 'ol boy's ageing well !

He looks better now ;) wish we all could :lol:

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 20:58

Well, I didn't want to say.

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 21:41

Originally posted by PilotesdeLegende
Here another Ws

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How about Brian Robson?

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 22:42

Originally posted by picblanc
This one is for GT Karl, who appears to be a GT750/TR750 man?
I don't know who this one belonged too, but he was European and Blonde I seem to remember, he is just on the left! and was an addition to the 1975 Silverstone FIM 750 race that weekend.
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Graham,

I might be mistaken, but this bike looks very similar to the one that won the Bemsee 1000 championship I think it was '77 maybe '78 ridden by Barry Waters, I have a prog' with his pic on the front and even the paint on the seat looks the same.

You must have a snap lurking somewhere!

MD

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 22:49

Originally posted by suzrg500


Graham,

I might be mistaken, but this bike looks very similar to the one that won the Bemsee 1000 championship I think it was '77 maybe '78 ridden by Barry Waters, I have a prog' with his pic on the front and even the paint on the seat looks the same.

You must have a snap lurking somewhere!

MD


Can you scan it? I do have a picture of Barry waters, not sure what he is on though? (Norton comes to mind!) and I have to find it, its not down loaded I think?
Graham. :wave:

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Posted 24 January 2008 - 22:59

Originally posted by picblanc


Can you scan it? I do have a picture of Barry waters, not sure what he is on though? (Norton comes to mind!) and I have to find it, its not down loaded I think?
Graham. :wave:


I knew you were going to ask that, sorry no scanner I think we may have one at work, I'll check tomorrow.

Although I don't think it will copy well it's sort of a half tone mono picture on a pink coloured card, you know how they used to do their programmes, no consideration for us 30 years later, fancy not knowing about scanners. :lol:

MD

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 11:03

This pic posted for GT KARL

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 11:15

Bonjour Henri-Michel - can we have the name of the guy on the G50 please.

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 11:30

Originally posted by Russell Burrows
Bonjour Henri-Michel - can we have the name of the guy on the G50 please.


ROGER JENNINGS :wave: