Jump to content


Photo

Still alive? And other niggling questions...


  • Please log in to reply
90 replies to this topic

#1 ReWind

ReWind
  • Member

  • 2,346 posts
  • Joined: October 03

Posted 22 January 2005 - 10:54

This is a spin-off of Falcadore’s „Happy Birthday“ thread or in fact of my lists therein.

A lot of red question marks in my lists wait for answers.

There are three sorts of questions:

1) Are the following people still alive?
(Year of birth in brackets)

ARGENTINA:
Jésus Iglesias (1922)

AUSTRALIA:
Harry Firth (1918)

AUSTRIA:
Adolf Kern (1914), Kurt Zuegg (1924)

CANADA:
Ben Lalomia (1919)

FINLAND:
Helge Hallman (1906), Curt Lincoln (1918)

FRANCE:
Robert la Caze (1917), Charles Huc (1913)

GERMANY:
Heinz Brendel (1915), Hellmut Deutz (1911), Paul Dübbers (1915), Josef Hecht (1920), Jakob Lauer (1912), Ferdi Lehder (1913), Philipp Meub (1911), Hanns Roth (1911), Herbert Wilhelm Schmitz (1910), Karl Schumacher (1924), Siegfried Seifert (1921)

GREAT BRITAIN:
Bob Ansell (1917), R.J.W. Appleton (1910), Cyril Atkins (1916), George Bainbridge (1916), Christopher Baker-Carr (1903), Archie Baring (1912), Berwyn Baxter (1920), John Brown (1916), Archie Bryde (1919), Marcus Chambers (1910), Kenneth Evans (1912), John Fisher (1917),
Johnny Lockett (1915), Henry Mitchell (1921), Allan Moore (1923), Mortimer Morris-Goodall (1907), Mike Oliver (1921), Antony Powys-Lybbe (1909), Robin Richards (1920), Peter Scott-Russel (1920), Allan Staniforth (1924), George Symonds (1902), George Thornton (1916), Donald Truman (1922), Gillie Tyrer (1911)

ITALY:
Luigi de Filippis (1922), Vittorio Marzotto (1922)

POLAND:
Jerzy Dobrzanski (1923)

SWEDEN:
Sven Andersson (1918), Helmer Carlsson (1909), Nils Gerremo (1919)

SWITZERLAND:
Hubert Patthey (1919), Walter Wüst (1913)

USA:
Curtis Attaway Jr. (1923), L.D. Austin (1918), Jimmy Ayers (1917), Frank Baptista (1923), Bob Barron (1921), Dick Beaty (1924), Russell Bennett (1920), Fred Bince (1923), Art Binkley (1920), Jim Boyd (1920), Clint Brawner (1916), Ed Brown (1920), Hully Bunn (1920),
Ben Cannaziaro (1910), Dan Carmichael (1918), Ted Chamberlain (1906), Bill Chevalier (1922), Leland Colvin (1914), Richard Cummings (1924), Ernie Derr (1921), John DuBoise (1919), Dick Eagan (1919), Ray Elliott (1921), Erick Erickson (1916), Ray Erickson (1918), Wimpy Ervin (1917), Bob Estes (1913), Jack Etheridge (1916),
Len Fanelli (1912), Nick Fornoro (1920), Tubby Gonzales (1919), Johnny Grubb (1914), Alton Haddock (1915), Bill Hammersley (1908), Bill Harrison (1910), Lou Johnson (1924), „Johnny Kay“ (1919), Tex Keene (1917), Max King (1913), Bud Kohler (1921), James Lewter (1920), Bill Lloyd (1923), Sandy Lynch (1922),
Otis Martin (1918), Pee Wee Martin (1922), Steve McGrath (1924), Jim Metzler (1912), Bob Moore (1923), Lloyd Moore (1912), Wes Morgan (1922), Larry Odo (1922), Lee Schmidt (1919), Ralph Sheeler (1910), Larry Shurter (1917), Banks Simpson (1916), Louise Smith (1916), Bill Snowden (1910),
George Tet (1923), Alfonso Thiele (1922), Johnny Thompson (1922), Tommy Thompson (1922), Lou Volk (1910), Ken Wagner (1917), Guy Waller (1919), A.J. Watson (1924), Pap White (1922), John Wright (1923), Johnny Zeke (1920), Dick Zimmerman (1918), Ralph Zrimsek (1918)

YUGOSLAVIA:
Bosko Milenkovic (1909)

NATIONALITY UNKNOWN (to me) :
Alec Baker (1911), John Banks (1909), James Barnes (1906), Gordon Haddock (1924), Harold Walker (1906)


2) From the following ones the dates of death are missing:
(Year of birth in brackets)

CANADA:
Pete Henderson (1895)

FINLAND:
Johan Ramsay (1903)

FRANCE:
Marius Barbarou (1876), Robert Gerbout (1906), „Jacques“ (= Jacques Péron, 1912), André Morel (1884)

GERMANY:
Kurt Ahrens (sen., 1908), Max Sailer (1882)

GREAT BRITAIN:
Doc Benjafield (1887), Reid Railton (1895)

ITALY:
Gino Cornaggia-Medici (1899)

SPAIN:
Salvador García (1902)

USA:
Bill Amick (1925), Joe Hendrick (1919), John Rostek (1925), Red Shafer (1896), Frank Smith (1901), Walter Sobraske (1901)


3) From these the dates of death are incomplete:
(Known parts of date in brackets)

ARGENTINA:
Dante Emiliozzi (1989), Héctor Niemitz (1960s), Enrique Saenz Valiente (1956)

CANADA:
Pete Broeker (1980), John Duff (Jan 1958)

FRANCE:
Robert Brunet (1986), Roger Césure (ca. 1963), Alexandre Darracq (1931), Jacques Jaubert (May 1999), Clément-Auguste Martin (1991), Charles Montier (Jun 1952), Jean-Louis Ricci (2001), René Trautmann (1997)

GERMANY:
Karl Feuereißen (1955), Hanns Geier (1986), Hans-Hugo Hartmann (Feb 1991), Franz Heim (1926), Willi Rosenstein (May 1949)

GREAT BRITAIN:
Frank Costin (Feb 1995), Sheila van Damm (Aug 1987), Owen Maddock (2000), Steve O’Rourke (Oct 2003), Reggie Tongue (1992)

ITALY:
Giulio Alfieri (Mar 2002), Antonio Brivio (Feb 1995), Aurelio Lampredi (1989), Giovanni Lurani (Jan 1995), Riccardo Moscatelli (Sep 1999), Nando Righetti (Jul 1966)

SPAIN:
Martín de Alzaga (1982), José de Villapadierna (1979)

SWEDEN:
Tom Trana (May 1991), Gunnar Wahlberg (1956)

SWITZERLAND:
Armand Hug (1960s), Hermann Roth (Apr 1997)

USA:
Bill Baker (Aug 1978), Dana Carter (1980s), Sara Christian (1980), Jim V. Cook (1980s), Frank DelRoy (Apr 1978), Clarence DeZalia (Dec 1980), Ted Duncan (Aug 1963), George Elliott (1998), Gary Gabelich (Jan 1984), Joe Giba (Oct 1986), Potsy Goacher (Feb 1986),
Ed Hessert (Nov 1978), Mark Light (Apr 1975), Bunny Phillips (1999), Clem Proctor (Nov 1994), Jim Robinson (1990s), Doc Shanebrook (Oct 1979), Louis Unser (Oct 1979), Red Vogt (1991)


It would be nice if some of the gaps could be filled in this thread.

Advertisement

#2 GIGLEUX

GIGLEUX
  • Member

  • 1,519 posts
  • Joined: April 03

Posted 22 January 2005 - 11:38

André, Paul, Victor MOREL, 5 october 1961 at Vaulx-en-Velin, Rhône district, France.

#3 Vitesse2

Vitesse2
  • Nostalgia Forum Moderator

  • 23,876 posts
  • Joined: April 01

Posted 22 January 2005 - 12:06

Robin Richards is apparently still around ...

http://www.brdc.co.u.../2/member_id/67

As is Gillie Tyrer:

http://www.brdc.co.u.../2/member_id/92

And so is Don Truman:

http://www.brdc.co.u.../2/member_id/75

However that comes with the caveat that at least two of the BRDC members listed in the index (Ian Connell and Patsy Burt) are no longer with us. So the page may not be regularly updated :

#4 ReWind

ReWind
  • Member

  • 2,346 posts
  • Joined: October 03

Posted 22 January 2005 - 12:16

@ Richard: The BRDC site is the place I took the birth dates from. But as you say the absence of a death date does not necessarily mean the person is still alive.

#5 Richard Jenkins

Richard Jenkins
  • Member

  • 6,127 posts
  • Joined: November 00

Posted 22 January 2005 - 12:51

1) Are the following people still alive?

Jésus Iglesias (1922), Robert la Caze (1917), Bob Ansell (1917), Johnny Kay are all believed to be - in such, I haven't found a death reported or date yet.
Alfonso Thiele, I suspect, is dead but no proof yet.


USA:
Curtis Attaway Jr. (1923) d. Nov 1982,
Fred Bince (1923) d.16/11/2001,
Clint Brawner (1916), d. 23/11/87, phoenix, Arizona
Leland Colvin (1914), d. 22/1/1995, Camden, South Carolina
Len Fanelli (1912) d. Jul 1981, Tarpon Springs, Florida

2) From the following ones the dates of death are missing:

Red Shafer (1896) d. 29 Jan 1971, Des Moines, Iowa

#6 KJJ

KJJ
  • Member

  • 702 posts
  • Joined: February 02

Posted 22 January 2005 - 12:55

Mortimer Morris-Goodall, died May 14th 2001, source Daily Telegraph obituary 19/5/2001

#7 Adam F

Adam F
  • Member

  • 430 posts
  • Joined: October 02

Posted 22 January 2005 - 13:13

Some updates for British Drivers :-

Bob Ansell died March 2004
R.J.W. Appleton died October 1994
George Bainbridge died 2 April 2002
Alister Baring died 21 January 1971
Kenneth Evans died 30 March 1985

I am also sure Gillie Tyrer died in either 2003 or 2004.

#8 Stephen W

Stephen W
  • Member

  • 11,663 posts
  • Joined: December 04

Posted 22 January 2005 - 13:47

Allan Staniforth is thankfully still with us. He celebrated his 80th birthday in 2004 and is still hillclimbing and sprinting his home built Megapin race car.

:clap:

#9 Disco Stu

Disco Stu
  • Member

  • 186 posts
  • Joined: July 02

Posted 22 January 2005 - 17:55

From part 1:

Dan Carmichael, Nick Fornoro, Louise Smith and A. J. Watson are all still alive. Carmichael was actually still club racing in Formula Atlantic as recently as 2000. Ted Chamberlain died in 1968, sorry I don't have a date. Johnny Thomson (no P in his last name) died September 24, 1960.

From part 2:

"Papa Joe" Hendrick died on July 15, 2004.

From part 3:

Dana Carter died sometime in May 1983, sorry I don't have the exact date. Gary Gabelich died January 26, 1984.

#10 KJJ

KJJ
  • Member

  • 702 posts
  • Joined: February 02

Posted 22 January 2005 - 19:08

Frank Costin, died 5/2/1995, source Times obituary 15/3/1995
Owen Maddock, died 23/7/2000, source DCN's Independent obituary 15/8/2000
Reginald Tongue, died 1/6/1992, source Times obituary 11/6/1992

#11 theunions

theunions
  • Member

  • 638 posts
  • Joined: October 02

Posted 22 January 2005 - 23:24

A.J. Watson had a slip-and-fall accident just before Christmas and broke his right leg in three places. Anyone know how he's presently doing?

#12 alessandro silva

alessandro silva
  • Member

  • 756 posts
  • Joined: August 00

Posted 23 January 2005 - 11:11

Brivio d. 30/1/1995

#13 KJJ

KJJ
  • Member

  • 702 posts
  • Joined: February 02

Posted 23 January 2005 - 14:15

One more:

Steve O'Rourke, died 30/10/2003, source Times obituary 17/11/2003

#14 KJJ

KJJ
  • Member

  • 702 posts
  • Joined: February 02

Posted 23 January 2005 - 14:32

For some of the more unusual US names you could try searching the US Social Security Death Index here . I just did a search for Walter Sobraske, it gives a date of birth. 4/1/1901, but only the month of death Oct 1981.

I guess the more common names are going to throw up too many results.

#15 ReWind

ReWind
  • Member

  • 2,346 posts
  • Joined: October 03

Posted 23 January 2005 - 15:50

Originally posted by KJJ
For some of the more unusual US names you could try searching the US Social Security Death Index here .

Great! It already worked for Bill Amick (died 15 July 1995), Overton "Bunny" Phillips (died 01 April 1999) and Louis "Red" Vogt (died 07 March 1991).

#16 Jim Thurman

Jim Thurman
  • Member

  • 4,091 posts
  • Joined: February 01

Posted 23 January 2005 - 20:22

Originally posted by ReWind
Great! It already worked for Bill Amick (died 15 July 1995), Overton "Bunny" Phillips (died 01 April 1999) and Louis "Red" Vogt (died 07 March 1991).


ReWind,

To save you some time, I've got info on several of those you listed (including Amick) that I've already compiled from the same source. I'll post them soon.

#17 ReWind

ReWind
  • Member

  • 2,346 posts
  • Joined: October 03

Posted 23 January 2005 - 20:31

Thanks, Jim!

#18 Adam F

Adam F
  • Member

  • 430 posts
  • Joined: October 02

Posted 23 January 2005 - 21:09

A bit of Googling has confirmed that Gillie Tyrer died on 4th June 2003.

#19 KJJ

KJJ
  • Member

  • 702 posts
  • Joined: February 02

Posted 23 January 2005 - 22:27

Sheila van Damm, died 23/08/1987, source Oxford Dictionary of National Biography

If you're quick you can read her entry here , although no doubt it will disappear soon.

Advertisement

#20 Jim Thurman

Jim Thurman
  • Member

  • 4,091 posts
  • Joined: February 01

Posted 24 January 2005 - 06:14

Here's what I have...

Ben Lalomia (29 Mar 1919 - 12 May 1999)
Russell Bennett (29 Dec 1920 - 27 Aug 1996)
Ed Brown (15 Mar 1920 - 25 Jun 2000)
Bill Chevalier (15 Feb 1922 - 26 Sep 2001)
Paul "Wimpy" Ervin (24 Dec 1917 - Feb 1987)
Elar "Tubby" Gonzales (21 Oct 1919 - 17 Aug 1989)
"Bud" Koehler (15 Feb 1921 - 21 Apr 2003)
Wes Morgan (24 Nov 1922 - 28 Nov 1994)
Tommy Thompson (22 Apr 1922 - 04 Aug 1996)
Ken Wagner (19 Sep 1917 - Mar 1981)

There is Johnny Thomson, Indy driver from the 50's (died 1960) and Johnny Thompson, NASCAR driver. So the date you've put down is correct for the former, but isn't the one you were asking about.

Bill Amick 15 Jul 1995
John Rostek 29 Dec 1969 plane crash

I'm hoping to finally dig into the boxes of papers and pin down the following...

Bill Baker (Aug 1978), Dana Carter (1980s), Jim Cook (1980s) - not Jim V., Jim Robinson (1990s). Baker and Robinson should be no difficulty and at least I have a lead on Jim Cook.

Ed Hessert could prove tough as he was declared legally dead. Not much hope of an exact date.

As of last notice, Dick Beaty, Ernie Derr, Erick Erickson are still with us, though Erickson is in poor health.

#21 theunions

theunions
  • Member

  • 638 posts
  • Joined: October 02

Posted 24 January 2005 - 06:35

Dana Carter - per the '83 Hungness 500 Yearbook, May 5 of that year.

Did he and Dick Ferguson ever resolve their feud?

#22 Jim Thurman

Jim Thurman
  • Member

  • 4,091 posts
  • Joined: February 01

Posted 24 January 2005 - 08:10

Earl, thanks for the date on Dana Carter.

Bill Baker (Aug 12 1978) - heart attack practicing for NASCAR WGN at Sears Point
Jim Cook (Nov 26 1983) - murdered
Jim Robinson (Dec 1995)


I'll have to dig deeper to get a date on Robinson.

#23 Richard Jenkins

Richard Jenkins
  • Member

  • 6,127 posts
  • Joined: November 00

Posted 24 January 2005 - 11:13

Originally posted by theunions
Dana Carter - per the '83 Hungness 500 Yearbook, May 5 of that year.

Did he and Dick Ferguson ever resolve their feud?


A further question if I may,
does it say where Dana died & also did it double confirm where he was born? I'm searching re. his nq for the Indy 500. (which means I may have a fair few queries for you folks soon......)

#24 Jonas

Jonas
  • Member

  • 221 posts
  • Joined: December 02

Posted 24 January 2005 - 11:46

Originally posted by ReWind
1) Are the following people still alive?
SWEDEN:
Helmer Carlsson (1909)

Yes!

#25 anjakub

anjakub
  • Member

  • 606 posts
  • Joined: October 01

Posted 24 January 2005 - 13:50

Originally posted by ReWind
1) Are the following people still alive?
POLAND:
Jerzy Dobrzanski (1923)


Yes!
Jerzy Dobrzanski, born 11 June 1923, Kraków

#26 Disco Stu

Disco Stu
  • Member

  • 186 posts
  • Joined: July 02

Posted 24 January 2005 - 14:31

Originally posted by Richie Jenkins


A further question if I may,
does it say where Dana died & also did it double confirm where he was born? I'm searching re. his nq for the Indy 500. (which means I may have a fair few queries for you folks soon......)


Don't have it with me since I'm at work, but I just picked up a 1983 USAC yearbook, it mentioned him having some sort of attack (medical, not assault) in his home. I'll dig it up when I get home.

#27 Richard Jenkins

Richard Jenkins
  • Member

  • 6,127 posts
  • Joined: November 00

Posted 24 January 2005 - 15:13

Thanks. :clap: I believe it was a heart-attack but haven't ever been able to find out more. I look forward to finding out

#28 theunions

theunions
  • Member

  • 638 posts
  • Joined: October 02

Posted 24 January 2005 - 17:02

Originally posted by Richie Jenkins
A further question if I may,
does it say where Dana died & also did it double confirm where he was born?


No mention of birthplace, but it says he died at Methodist Hospital after falling ill at home. Not sure where the heart attack actually occured though.

The 1980 CART media guide mentions birthplaces/hometowns of no driver.

#29 Alan Cox

Alan Cox
  • Member

  • 7,640 posts
  • Joined: March 03

Posted 24 January 2005 - 17:27

Peter Scott-Russell is still with us and can regularly be seen studying form in the Silverstone paddock.

#30 Richard Jenkins

Richard Jenkins
  • Member

  • 6,127 posts
  • Joined: November 00

Posted 24 January 2005 - 18:01

Originally posted by theunions


No mention of birthplace, but it says he died at Methodist Hospital after falling ill at home. Not sure



Methodist Hospital, Indianapolis, I presume??

#31 dmj

dmj
  • Member

  • 1,956 posts
  • Joined: August 01

Posted 24 January 2005 - 18:30

Bosko Milenkovic was alive 3 or 4 years ago when some of his memories were published in a Serbian magazine I saw (but unfortunately couldn't keep so can't remember more).

#32 Vitesse2

Vitesse2
  • Nostalgia Forum Moderator

  • 23,876 posts
  • Joined: April 01

Posted 24 January 2005 - 18:39

Originally posted by dmj
Bosko Milenkovic was alive 3 or 4 years ago when some of his memories were published in a Serbian magazine I saw (but unfortunately couldn't keep so can't remember more).


So that would be called something like "How those damned German cars kept passing me ...." :p

#33 dmj

dmj
  • Member

  • 1,956 posts
  • Joined: August 01

Posted 24 January 2005 - 18:44

I might be wrong but I remember his thinkings of Porsches and article being illustrated by pics of him in 550 Spyder... Sadly I didn't catch the details and forgot the must but there was more of his Post-WWII races during Communism than of ones before...

#34 David McKinney

David McKinney
  • Member

  • 14,156 posts
  • Joined: November 00

Posted 24 January 2005 - 19:23

You are of course not confusing him with Porsche 550 driver Milivoj Bozics, dmj?

#35 Jim Thurman

Jim Thurman
  • Member

  • 4,091 posts
  • Joined: February 01

Posted 24 January 2005 - 21:53

And to help those keeping more detailed records...

Bill Baker (Aug 12 1978) - died at Novato, CA hospital after suffering heart attack practicing for NASCAR WGN at Sears Point (occurred on Saturday, the day before the race). Had raced F5000 and switched to WGN for '78 to reduce travel. From Pismo Beach, California. Didn't begin racing until 41 years of age.

Ed Brown (15 Mar 1920 - 25 Jun 2000) - Edwin O. Brown. Died in hospital in either Yuba City or Marysville, CA (I have an obituary around here....somewhere). Long time Stock Car racer on the West Coast, starting out racing Hardtops and Track Roadsters around Northern California. Competed on the NASCAR Western circuit for many years (through it's name change from PCLM to WGN). Raced out of the small town of Meridian, California on the Sacramento River.

Jim Cook (Nov 26 1983) - murdered. I still have no info confirming exactly where Jim Cook was living at the time, which is why I had trouble finding anything on him. I did recall the sad news of him being murdered by a drifter who broke into his apartment. He had been wheelchair bound since his terrible accident in the NASCAR GN race at Riverside in January 1970. Another long time Stock Car racer on the West Coast, successful both on Southern California short tracks and on the NASCAR PCLM circuit.

John Rostek (29 Dec 1969) plane crash at Vermillion, SD. Wreckage was found in woods off end of runway on Dec 31 1969, but investigators figured the crash happened on take-off on the 29th. Rostek was from Fort Collins, Colorado and won the 1960 'Copper Cup' 100 mile NASCAR GN race on the 1 mile dirt oval at the Arizona State Fairgrounds. He also competed on the USAC Stock Car circuit.

#36 Disco Stu

Disco Stu
  • Member

  • 186 posts
  • Joined: July 02

Posted 24 January 2005 - 23:47

Originally posted by Richie Jenkins
Thanks. :clap: I believe it was a heart-attack but haven't ever been able to find out more. I look forward to finding out


After looking at the yearbook I'm afraid there's not anything else I can add. It merely says he "had passed away in May after suffering an attack at his home."

#37 theunions

theunions
  • Member

  • 638 posts
  • Joined: October 02

Posted 25 January 2005 - 04:54

Originally posted by Richie Jenkins
Methodist Hospital, Indianapolis, I presume??


Affirmative.

#38 dmj

dmj
  • Member

  • 1,956 posts
  • Joined: August 01

Posted 25 January 2005 - 11:37

Originally posted by David McKinney
You are of course not confusing him with Porsche 550 driver Milivoj Bozics, dmj?


Might be. But I'm not in position to check so sorry for any confusion added.

#39 m.tanney

m.tanney
  • Member

  • 341 posts
  • Joined: January 03

Posted 25 January 2005 - 17:46

George G. "Pete" Henderson
Born February 18, 1895 in Arran, Ontario.
Died June 19, 1940 in Los Angeles, California.

Ben Lalomia was an American who often raced in Canada, not a Canadian.

Advertisement

#40 ReWind

ReWind
  • Member

  • 2,346 posts
  • Joined: October 03

Posted 26 January 2005 - 17:56

Since I recently came to know the birth dates of Australian Harry Firth (b. 18 Apr 1918) and (thanks to Hugo Boecker) Hanns Roth (b. 09 Aug 1911) from Germany I added these two names to the first part in the opening post of this thread.

On this occasion I would like to thank all contributors to this thread so far. As you can see in my edited opening post numerous questions already have been answered.

#41 alessandro silva

alessandro silva
  • Member

  • 756 posts
  • Joined: August 00

Posted 27 January 2005 - 09:10

Giovanni Maria [Gian Maria] "Gino" Cornaggia Medici b.30/10/1899, d. 24/10/1979

#42 TonyCotton

TonyCotton
  • Member

  • 63 posts
  • Joined: June 04

Posted 27 January 2005 - 13:47

Don Truman was MSA Steward at the SUNBAC race meeting at Silverstone in March 2004, and looked very healthy.

#43 ReWind

ReWind
  • Member

  • 2,346 posts
  • Joined: October 03

Posted 27 January 2005 - 20:59

@ Alessandro: From Leif's website I have Gino Cornaggia-Medici's birthday as October, 3rd. Is October, 30th, water-proof?

#44 alessandro silva

alessandro silva
  • Member

  • 756 posts
  • Joined: August 00

Posted 27 January 2005 - 23:20

Originally posted by ReWind
@ Alessandro: From Leif's website I have Gino Cornaggia-Medici's birthday as October, 3rd. Is October, 30th, water-proof?


I think so.

Also: it is Cornaggia Medici NO hyphen

#45 Richard Jenkins

Richard Jenkins
  • Member

  • 6,127 posts
  • Joined: November 00

Posted 31 January 2005 - 15:17

Originally posted by ReWind

3) From these the dates of death are incomplete:

SPAIN:
Martin de Alzaga (1982)



Should be listed as Argentine & he died on the 15th Nov 1982.

#46 ReWind

ReWind
  • Member

  • 2,346 posts
  • Joined: October 03

Posted 31 January 2005 - 18:53

:blush: :up:

#47 ReWind

ReWind
  • Member

  • 2,346 posts
  • Joined: October 03

Posted 25 March 2005 - 13:59

According to the index of Robert Dick's book "Mercedes and Auto Racing in the Belle Epoque" Max Sailer died in 1964.

Anyone out there who knows month and day?

#48 Richard Jenkins

Richard Jenkins
  • Member

  • 6,127 posts
  • Joined: November 00

Posted 25 March 2005 - 15:40

After checking your list again, I saw Ted Chamberlain's name. Chamberlain died in 1968, but that's all I know.

#49 Barry Lake

Barry Lake
  • Member

  • 2,169 posts
  • Joined: February 00

Posted 27 March 2005 - 09:56

The book "La Saga dei Marzotto", published in 2003 by Giorgio Nada Editore stated that Vittorio Marzotto died 4 February 1999, aged 76 (born Friday 13 June 1922).

At the time of publication of the book, the other three racing Marzotto brothers were still living.

#50 Barry Lake

Barry Lake
  • Member

  • 2,169 posts
  • Joined: February 00

Posted 27 March 2005 - 10:14

Only today have I first looked at this thread. When I saw the name Harry Firth (Australia) I assumed someone would already have answered, but a look through the responses indicates this is not so.

"H" is still alive and ornery. A local model car company (Biante Model Cars) has been making very accurate (Made in China) scale models of the touring cars of the era when Firth ran the Holden Dealer Team and Harry has been earning a nice dollar in royalties. He helps with information to ensure accuracy of such things as decals and minor details, and also contributes to the histories that are written to go with the models.

Harry also contributes information and does some proof reading of stories that are relevant to him for a magazine called Australian Muscle Car, which has some very detailed and accurate stories of Australian touring car racing history.