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#51 mfd

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 20:04

No you aren't, Duncan.
Matt green primer is what it should be.

One of the photos I've seen has it in 2 shades of green. The cockpit cover is one shade the nose & flanks are another.

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#52 macoran

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 20:17

One of the photos I've seen has it in 2 shades of green. The cockpit cover is one shade the nose & flanks are another.

I have that pic as well, and I believe the flanks probably show the bare alloy monocoque skin, reflecting the tramac slightly so as to look
a bit greenish/greyish.

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 20:39

I have that pic as well, and I believe the flanks probably show the bare alloy monocoque skin, reflecting the tramac slightly so as to look
a bit greenish/greyish.

Marc, are you looking at a photo with Bardahl in the background or an armco barrier?


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Posted 08 February 2011 - 20:46

Marc, are you looking at a photo with Bardahl in the background or an armco barrier?

On track with the Bardahl sign in the background, and a pit photo

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 21:03

On track with the Bardahl sign in the background, and a pit photo

If you check your pit photo and look at the front suspension arms & the area between the nose cone and cockpit cover, it's the same colour as the lower sides, but the bodywork is darker.


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Posted 08 February 2011 - 21:10

If you check your pit photo and look at the front suspension arms & the area between the nose cone and cockpit cover, it's the same colour as the lower sides, but the bodywork is darker.

Hi folks

In case you're looking for actual photos, here are some. Looks crazy though. You can see the colour difference between top and bottom part.

Enjoy. :-)

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Best Regards
Igor

Edited by Igor_E, 08 February 2011 - 21:11.


#57 macoran

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 21:20

If you check your pit photo and look at the front suspension arms & the area between the nose cone and cockpit cover, it's the same colour as the lower sides, but the bodywork is darker.

Correct ! the monocoque ( all the way to the front suspension ) may be bare alloy, or etch primered, the nosecone and the cockpit separate body bits primered as well, but being of a different material, FRP / GRP ? giving a completely different sheen because of a different spec primer.

Edited by macoran, 08 February 2011 - 21:23.


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Posted 08 February 2011 - 21:25

Correct ! the monocoque ( all the way to the front suspension ) is probably bare alloy, the nosecone and the cockpit separate body bits painted in an etch primer as mentioned by Peter Morley.

Wouldn't bare alloy be silver? This light green stuff is the aircraft spec coating to protect bare alloy - it was mentioned earlier. I've seen the same stuff on the bulkheads (up the road) on an ex Emmo McLaren M23

Edited by mfd, 08 February 2011 - 21:26.


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Posted 08 February 2011 - 22:40

Regardless of precise colour tone - it was a jolly good handling car... :rolleyes:

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 03:28

Regardless of precise colour tone - it was a jolly good handling car... :rolleyes:

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Oh yesh.....quite nice.

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 05:43

Maybe they had got hold of a couple of cans of Barry's rejected "Aston Martin" green?




I'll get me coat.

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 05:57

:rotfl:

#63 ChrisJson

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 13:47

Caltex, of course, still operate in Australia...

There are even some old enough to remember when the name changed from Texaco to Caltex.



In Sweden it was the other way round.
From Caltex to Texaco late 60´s or early 70´s.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 15:38

The original car was presumably presented in etch-primer (having not had enough time to slap a coat of blue paint on?).
Since etch-primer is hygroscopic you shouldn't leave it unpainted for long and certainly should not take a chance on it being rained on.
Maybe they have etch-primed the car as original and then applied some kind of sealant/varnish to protect it from the elements.


Time was the reason for the non top coat and it looks like etching primer to myself. Etching primer is also necessary on the bare metal for the paint to stick. The car retired after getting a misfire. Unfortunately for Ken, the misfire was caused by a broken valve spring and the valve eventually dropped (lap 32 iirc).

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 18:37

Last week I first visited the Donington Collection, and yes, THIS unique car is there - ugly or not.

Last week, I received my copy of "Les points rouges arrivent" (Editions du Palmiers), a detailed account from the publicity agent-cum amateur driver Jean-Marc Chaillet who had a key role in introducing the ELF marque in the French market - famously having 1000's of filling stations turned into ELF stations overnight 27-28/April 1967. Caltex was the larger of the 7 companies joined under the new state ELF bannier, and Matra-ELF was a major factor in their extremely succesful marketing. [the date seems to confirm the Caltex sponsorship in South Africa early '68 was a local one-off deal, not mentioned in the book, but presumably via the Texaco connection in some way].
I remember reading a market survey in the UK where a significant number of motorists confirmed having filled their petrol tanks with ELF fuel - which had never been available on the British isles...

Also last week, Sylvia Kristel, the star of the first Emanuelle movies, passed away after a long battle against cancer at just 60 years of age.

The connection: a number of imaginative pictures used in the Matra-ELF publicity campaign where shot by photographer Just Jaecklin, who directed the first Emanuelle movie just a couple of years later.

So much coincidence within one week, in connection to my childhood favorites Matra and ELF...

Edited by Cavalier53, 22 October 2012 - 19:21.


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Posted 22 October 2012 - 18:43

Last week I first visited the Donington Collection, and yes, THIS unique car is there - ugly or not.

Last week, I received my copy of "Les points rouges arrivent" (Editions du Palmiers), a detailed account from the publicity agent-cum amateur driver Jean-Marc Chaillet who had a key role in introducing the ELF marque in the French market - famously having 1000's of filling stations turned into ELF stations overnight 27-28/April 1997. Caltex was the larger of the 7 companies joined under the new state ELF bannier, and Matra-ELF was a major factor in their extremely succesful marketing. [the date seems to confirm the Caltex sponsorship in South Africa early '68 was a local one-off deal, not mentioned in the book, but presumably via the Texaco connection in some way].
I remember reading a market survey in the UK where a significant number of motorists confirmed having filled their petrol tanks with ELF fuel - which had never been available on the British isles...

Also last week, Sylvia Kristel, the star of the first Emanuelle movies, passed away after a long battle against cancer at just 60 years of age.

The connection: a number of imaginative pictures used in the Matra-ELF publicity campaign where shot by photographer Just Jaecklin, who directed the first Emanuelle movie just a couple of years later.

So much coincidence within one week, in connection to my childhood favorites Matra and ELF...

And Sylvia Kristel? :yawnface:

#67 Cavalier53

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 18:51

And Sylvia Kristel? :yawnface:

Sylvia Kristel only became Miss Eurovision in 1973, followed by her debut as Emanuelle in 1974. I'm not sure Eurovision ever dared to repeat a contest subsequently... And I was referring to childhood memories, I was an adult when the Emanuelle films where made.