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#1 garth_b

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 09:52

I have waited until now to post the first lot of results as I had kept entries open until the Malaysia round. It was a good thing I did otherwise I wouldn't have got a team in. :)

I noticed a few people editted their teams. I think I picked them all up. However you won't be able to check for a couple more days as I haven't set up the web pages yet. I also notice someone thought the total possible score is 600. I think I worked it out to be more like 775. You will see from the results of the first 2 rounds that it is definitely more than 600.

Australia result
It is a bit embarrassing to say that my team Flying Kiwis topped this first round with 699 points. I have asked myself if that is because of the benefit of hindsight. I don't think that is the case because I don't believe the first 2 or 3 rounds is a good reflection of the season. So I am hoping I am going to be able to keep this performance up. Second equal on 691 points were sleeping rabbit and Tarzan Army


  Rank  Owner			 Team						   Score

   1	garth_b		   Flying Kiwis					699

   2	jme			   sleeping rabbit				 691

   2	scheivlak		 Tarzan Army					 691

   4	windsok		   windsokf1					   688

   5	WillieF1		  Dung Heap					   684

   6	DeathMasteR	   DMR Speedsters				  681

   7	JulKeZ			Spanish number one			  672

   8	Jordan191		 Lickin Toads Racing			 666

   9	JForce			All Black Racing				665

   9	magicalonso	   Allero Racing				   665

   11   armonico		  zara racing					 657

   11   maxie			 Maximillian Motorsports		 657

   13   Pioneer		   Scuderia Pioneer				642

   14   fisichella_2001   Mark's Sparks				   638

   14   Martin Mew		MewGP						   638

   16   weasle			weasle holdings				 633

   17   FordFan		   FordFan's Follies			   631

   17   jomaizta		  Team Burnout					631

   17   kNt			   Zueblin-Saurer				  631

   17   Raemius		   JOK Racing					  631

   21   D82			   Ihavetofillallthirtycharacters  629

   22   Flash			 Patubela Racing Team			628

   23   LB				Why didn't I post b4 Mak?	   623

   23   Makarias		  This is your volcano			623

   23   Ravindra NagpurkarRavi's Mechanics				623

   23   Shadow			Team Shadow					 623

   27   ferbus			Monkey Magic					622

   27   sek			   Gravelfest-nest				 622

   29   PhilHitchings	 Phantasticphormulaone		   618

   30   boekman		   Scuderia FIAT Juventus		  617

   31   skylark 68		Team Skylark					616

   32   howardt		   No More Concorde Agreement	  613

   32   IMHO			  Splunge						 613

   32   Shays			 Wachaa						  613

   35   Mimin			 The MK Team					 612

   36   kismet			Diddly Squad Racing			 609

   37   Miniman		   Rasputin Racing				 608

   37   Schuting Star	 Starbright Racers			   608

   39   fissijo		   Team Smeeee Heeeeeeeeeee		606

   39   Jimmino		   Jimmino Team					606

   39   Moanaman		  Possum Racing Club			  606

   42   int2str		   Unfall						  605

   43   Apex			  Wild Guess					  599

   43   d_view7		   Viiksi						  599

   43   SkorbiF1		  SkorbiF1						599

   46   SeanValen		 JACK BAUER-CTU-24			   594

   47   Alapan			Dead Last					   592

   47   Zawed			 ZRM							 592

   49   V10 Fireworks	 V10 External Combustion Racing  590

   50   gerry nassar	  Let them Eat Cake Racing		589

   51   joachimvanwing	straight flush				  581

   52   coyoteBR		  Scuderia Your Ad Here		   579

   53   lukywill		  luky's 2005 GP				  569

   54   G8R_Sackmasters   Grand Prix Gators			   563

   54   Garagiste		 UBH F1						  563

   56   BorderReiver	  Border Reivers Revisited		554

   57   Al.			   IF Only F1					  545

   58   AS110			 International F1				543

   59   Ric Bol		   Fodão Team					  536

   60   Jack Rabbit	   Rabbit f1					   527

   60   Orin			  Tobermory Racing				527

   62   Marcel Schot	  Scuderia Sotterraneo			523

   62   Viss1			 Flapjack Attack				 523

   64   Antti			 AnttiF1						 520

   64   Costaz			PAOK F1						 520

   64   Crazy Canuck	  Plumbers Crack				  520

   64   StickShift		Herro Kitty Autosportif		 520

   64   Ventura		   Secret Agents				   520

   64   Woking			Mclaren Rules				   520

   70   babbel			Scramble or Boom racing		 511

   70   Pine			  Err... Pine again			   511

   70   senna1			Outrage 19 Part Deux			511

   70   Tillster		  The Alex Yoong Motoring School  511

   74   QdfV			  Touring Milano				  509

   75   Estwald		   Team Estwald					508

   76   Jecko			 Jecko's Junkpile				503

   77   130R			  130RS						   496

   77   madmac			wall scrappings				 496

   79   spenserj		  SpenserF1					   492

   80   Bern@rd		   My Crappy Racers				489

   80   slatz			 CoolMobiles					 489

   82   dnbn			  Gamma Ray Racing				 46

Malaysia Results
Malayasia's scores were even better than Australia. Top score of 710 went to Allero Racing. Second on 696 was zara racing, while third equal were Jecko's Junkpile and Scuderia Sotterraneo.


  Rank  Owner			 Team						   Score

   1	magicalonso	   Allero Racing				   710

   2	armonico		  zara racing					 696

   2	Jecko			 Jecko's Junkpile				671

   4	Marcel Schot	  Scuderia Sotterraneo			671

   5	Viss1			 Flapjack Attack				 660

   6	Costaz			PAOK F1						 651

   7	StickShift		Herro Kitty Autosportif		 651

   8	Woking			Mclaren Rules				   651

   9	Antti			 AnttiF1						 650

   9	Ventura		   Secret Agents				   650

   11   joachimvanwing	straight flush				  639

   11   JulKeZ			Spanish number one			  633

   13   LB				Why didn't I post b4 Mak?	   630

   14   Makarias		  This is your volcano			630

   14   Ravindra NagpurkarRavi's Mechanics				630

   16   Bern@rd		   My Crappy Racers				625

   17   coyoteBR		  Scuderia Your Ad Here		   625

   17   Estwald		   Team Estwald					625

   17   howardt		   No More Concorde Agreement	  623

   17   Garagiste		 UBH F1						  616

   21   Crazy Canuck	  Plumbers Crack				  611

   22   IMHO			  Splunge						 611

   23   Al.			   IF Only F1					  606

   23   maxie			 Maximillian Motorsports		 602

   23   Mimin			 The MK Team					 601

   23   Jordan191		 Lickin Toads Racing			 598

   27   Miniman		   Rasputin Racing				 595

   27   Schuting Star	 Starbright Racers			   595

   29   SeanValen		 JACK BAUER-CTU-24			   594

   30   jme			   sleeping rabbit				 590

   31   SkorbiF1		  SkorbiF1						589

   32   Apex			  Wild Guess					  588

   32   d_view7		   Viiksi						  588

   32   Zawed			 ZRM							 583

   35   kismet			Diddly Squad Racing			 582

   36   Ric Bol		   Fodão Team					  581

   37   fisichella_2001   Mark's Sparks				   579

   37   Martin Mew		MewGP						   579

   39   gerry nassar	  Let them Eat Cake Racing		574

   39   FordFan		   FordFan's Follies			   571

   39   jomaizta		  Team Burnout					571

   42   kNt			   Zueblin-Saurer				  571

   43   Pine			  Err... Pine again			   571

   43   QdfV			  Touring Milano				  571

   43   Raemius		   JOK Racing					  571

   46   senna1			Outrage 19 Part Deux			571

   47   Tillster		  The Alex Yoong Motoring School  571

   47   babbel			Scramble or Boom racing		 561

   49   weasle			weasle holdings				 551

   50   Shadow			Team Shadow					 544

   51   fissijo		   Team Smeeee Heeeeeeeeeee		542

   52   garth_b		   Flying Kiwis					542

   53   Moanaman		  Possum Racing Club			  542

   54   130R			  130RS						   536

   54   madmac			wall scrappings				 536

   56   skylark 68		Team Skylark					536

   57   DeathMasteR	   DMR Speedsters				  535

   58   Jimmino		   Jimmino Team					531

   59   BorderReiver	  Border Reivers Revisited		526

   60   sek			   Gravelfest-nest				 525

   60   G8R_Sackmasters   Grand Prix Gators			   523

   62   lukywill		  luky's 2005 GP				  522

   62   PhilHitchings	 Phantasticphormulaone		   521

   64   Orin			  Tobermory Racing				516

   64   int2str		   Unfall						  514

   64   JForce			All Black Racing				514

   64   Shays			 Wachaa						  511

   64   spenserj		  SpenserF1					   510

   64   scheivlak		 Tarzan Army					 508

   70   WillieF1		  Dung Heap					   507

   70   windsok		   windsokf1					   499

   70   V10 Fireworks	 V10 External Combustion Racing  473

   70   boekman		   Scuderia FIAT Juventus		  463

   74   ferbus			Monkey Magic					452

   75   Alapan			Dead Last					   441

   76   Jack Rabbit	   Rabbit f1					   432

   77   AS110			 International F1				422

   77   Pioneer		   Scuderia Pioneer				419

   79   Flash			 Patubela Racing Team			361

   80   slatz			 CoolMobiles					 359

   80   D82			   Ihavetofillallthirtycharacters  234

   82   dnbn			  Gamma Ray Racing				 26

Season to Date
A good couple of rounds for Allero Racing sees them take a good opening lead in this competition. Followed by zara racing. Spanish number one completes the early podium.


  Rank  Owner			  Team						   Score

   1	magicalonso		Allero Racing				   1375

   2	armonico		   zara racing					 1353

   3	JulKeZ			 Spanish number one			  1305

   4	jme				sleeping rabbit				 1281

   5	Jordan191		  Lickin Toads Racing			 1264

   6	maxie			  Maximillian Motorsports		 1259

   7	LB				 Why didn't I post b4 Mak?	   1253

   7	Makarias		   This is your volcano			1253

   7	Ravindra Nagpurkar Ravi's Mechanics				1253

   10   garth_b			Flying Kiwis					1241

   11   howardt			No More Concorde Agreement	  1236

   12   IMHO			   Splunge						 1224

   13   joachimvanwing	 straight flush				  1220

   14   fisichella_2001	Mark's Sparks				   1217

   14   Martin Mew		 MewGP						   1217

   16   DeathMasteR		DMR Speedsters				  1216

   17   Mimin			  The MK Team					 1213

   18   coyoteBR		   Scuderia Your Ad Here		   1204

   19   Miniman			Rasputin Racing				 1203

   19   Schuting Star	  Starbright Racers			   1203

   21   FordFan			FordFan's Follies			   1202

   21   jomaizta		   Team Burnout					1202

   21   kNt				Zueblin-Saurer				  1202

   21   Raemius			JOK Racing					  1202

   25   scheivlak		  Tarzan Army					 1199

   26   Marcel Schot	   Scuderia Sotterraneo			1194

   27   kismet			 Diddly Squad Racing			 1191

   27   WillieF1		   Dung Heap					   1191

   29   SeanValen		  JACK BAUER-CTU-24			   1188

   29   SkorbiF1		   SkorbiF1						1188

   31   Apex			   Wild Guess					  1187

   31   d_view7			Viiksi						  1187

   31   windsok			windsokf1					   1187

   34   weasle			 weasle holdings				 1184

   35   Viss1			  Flapjack Attack				 1183

   36   Garagiste		  UBH F1						  1179

   36   JForce			 All Black Racing				1179

   38   Zawed			  ZRM							 1175

   39   Jecko			  Jecko's Junkpile				1174

   40   Costaz			 PAOK F1						 1171

   40   StickShift		 Herro Kitty Autosportif		 1171

   40   Woking			 Mclaren Rules				   1171

   43   Antti			  AnttiF1						 1170

   43   Ventura			Secret Agents				   1170

   45   Shadow			 Team Shadow					 1167

   46   gerry nassar	   Let them Eat Cake Racing		1163

   47   skylark 68		 Team Skylark					1152

   48   Al.				IF Only F1					  1151

   49   fissijo			Team Smeeee Heeeeeeeeeee		1148

   49   Moanaman		   Possum Racing Club			  1148

   51   sek				Gravelfest-nest				 1147

   52   PhilHitchings	  Phantasticphormulaone		   1139

   53   Jimmino			Jimmino Team					1137

   54   Estwald			Team Estwald					1133

   55   Crazy Canuck	   Plumbers Crack				  1131

   56   Shays			  Wachaa						  1124

   57   int2str			Unfall						  1119

   58   Ric Bol			Fodão Team					  1117

   59   Bern@rd			My Crappy Racers				1114

   60   lukywill		   luky's 2005 GP				  1091

   61   G8R_Sackmasters	Grand Prix Gators			   1086

   62   Pine			   Err... Pine again			   1082

   62   senna1			 Outrage 19 Part Deux			1082

   62   Tillster		   The Alex Yoong Motoring School  1082

   65   boekman			Scuderia FIAT Juventus		  1080

   65   BorderReiver	   Border Reivers Revisited		1080

   65   QdfV			   Touring Milano				  1080

   68   ferbus			 Monkey Magic					1074

   69   babbel			 Scramble or Boom racing		 1072

   70   V10 Fireworks	  V10 External Combustion Racing  1063

   71   Pioneer			Scuderia Pioneer				1061

   72   Orin			   Tobermory Racing				1043

   73   Alapan			 Dead Last					   1033

   74   130R			   130RS						   1032

   74   madmac			 wall scrappings				 1032

   76   spenserj		   SpenserF1					   1002

   77   Flash			  Patubela Racing Team			989

   78   AS110			  International F1				965

   79   Jack Rabbit		Rabbit f1					   959

   80   D82				Ihavetofillallthirtycharacters  863

   81   slatz			  CoolMobiles					 848

   82   dnbn			   Gamma Ray Racing				 72

Good luck for the rest of the season :up:

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#2 windsok

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 09:58

My drivers took each other out in Malaysia! :mad:

#3 Orin

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 10:30

It says something when when start at the bottom of each list and work your way up to find your team. I wasn't wrong either :cry:

Despite that, thanks garth_b :up:

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 11:18

Originally posted by Orin
It says something when when start at the bottom of each list and work your way up to find your team. I wasn't wrong either :cry:


Me to, bugger


Thanks Garth_b.

#5 Alapan

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 11:44

dead last is almost last ... and the blame all lies with the star driver ....

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 12:04

Thanks garth b! :up:

Much better start for me than previous years. :clap:

About the scoring, maybe I am missing something, but the way read the posted rules here I got the maximum possible score of 735 like this:

I assume the points out of 100 for the drivers means that if a driver completes the full number of race laps he gets 100 points plus 10 for finishing the race and for the engine/chassis points out of 50 for each means if both cars complete the distance it is 100 (50+50) as well, no?

So this hypothetical team has drivers qualifying and finishing 1st, 2nd and 3rd, getting the fastest lap. The engine/chassis combos finishing 1st and 2nd. Tyres finishing 1st, 2nd and 3rd.

175 Dr1: 1st, P1, fastest lap (100+10+30+15+20)
146 Dr2: 2nd, P2 (100+10+24+12)
141 Dr3: 3rd, P3 (100+10+21+10)
119 Eng: 1st, 2nd (50+50+10+9)
119 Cha: 1st, 2nd (50+50+10+9)
_35 Tyres: 1st, 2nd, 3rd (20+10+5)
735

What scoring am I missing there?



#7 Jimmino

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 12:47

Thanks :drunk:

#8 StickShift

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 15:44

Thanks for running the game again garth_b. It's by far my favorite.

Poor round 1, decent round 2... I guess I have Heidfeld to thank for that. Go Go Rucky Team Herro Kitty Autosportif!

#9 dnbn

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 16:20

Something must be wrong. How come I am so far behind everyone else (72 points versus 848 for the next to last)? I picked Fisichella, Raikkonen and Massa as drivers (one won and the other two finished both races), Mercedes as the engine (not Honda), McLaren as the chassis (respectable performance) and Michelin as the tire (total domination).

Did you enter my team correctly or am I missing something (admittedly I have yet to calculate my points)?

#10 Pioneer

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 17:37

You are 5 million over budget.

Penalty for over budget is 2 per race lap per million over budget... so thats a penalty of
-1130 points that you've eaten so far.

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 18:36

Cock-jockeys! I thought I was doing pretty well too. . .

I never thought I'd say this, but I need Ferrari to start kicking some arse. . .

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 20:05

Originally posted by Pioneer
You are 5 million over budget.
... so thats a penalty of -1130 points that you've eaten so far.

Ooops. Didn't realize that I'm over the budget. Is there a way to stop the bleeding?

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 20:06

Originally posted by BorderReiver
Cock-jockeys! I thought I was doing pretty well too. . .

I never thought I'd say this, but I need Ferrari to start kicking some arse. . .


Me too - dammit! :blush:

#14 armonico

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 22:22

Thanks Garth_b for your time :up:

oh my Gooood!, i'm running second... :eek:

So many compromises because i wanted alonso as my P1 and that eaten my budget so hugely...that I needed to make maths to not go over the budget.

I'm praying Trulli keeps with his current form. Please don't fade, por la gloria de mi madre,....pecadooorr. :lol:

IMHO, teams set after Melbourbe had a little advantage :o , ...and altoough they are inside the rules, they broke the spirit of the rule :p

roll on Barhein and good luck everybody

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 22:54

Originally posted by windsok
My drivers took each other out in Malaysia! :mad:

Mine as well :mad: :lol:
Funny how my feelings went up and down during the race regarding this competition. It looked like another superb score - then my main drivers Fisi & Webber took each other out (BIG loss!) but at least I got as some compensation because my chassis/engine choices Renault/Toyota weren't doing that bad.

#16 garth_b

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 23:01

Originally posted by dnbn

Ooops. Didn't realize that I'm over the budget. Is there a way to stop the bleeding?


You will get an opportunity after San Marino to review the components of your team. I think the rules said a latrer race tahn that but I forgot to change that part so everyone will have more opportunities to fine tune their teams this year


Originally posted by IMHO


So this hypothetical team has drivers qualifying and finishing 1st, 2nd and 3rd, getting the fastest lap. The engine/chassis combos finishing 1st and 2nd. Tyres finishing 1st, 2nd and 3rd.

175 Dr1: 1st, P1, fastest lap (100+10+30+15+20)
146 Dr2: 2nd, P2 (100+10+24+12)
141 Dr3: 3rd, P3 (100+10+21+10)
119 Eng: 1st, 2nd (50+50+10+9)
119 Cha: 1st, 2nd (50+50+10+9)
_35 Tyres: 1st, 2nd, 3rd (20+10+5)
735


That certainly looks right. As I said I thought I had worked out the score to be 775. It was a couple of years ago I worked itout. I knew it was over 700, and I knew it ended in 5 so the middle number was a guess I suppose.

So there you have it. The theoretical maximum score is 735

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Posted 24 March 2005 - 19:24

Thanks garth, my gamble on Trulli is paying off big time thus far :clap: Anyway, since I also have Klien in my team and he could be replaced from Imola onwards with 'Tonio Liuzzi, will he be automatically included in my team? I'm sure you had it mentioned somewhere, but I guess I just missed this part. :lol:

#18 garth_b

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Posted 25 March 2005 - 08:47

Originally posted by magicalonso
Thanks garth, my gamble on Trulli is paying off big time thus far :clap: Anyway, since I also have Klien in my team and he could be replaced from Imola onwards with 'Tonio Liuzzi, will he be automatically included in my team? I'm sure you had it mentioned somewhere, but I guess I just missed this part. :lol:


I am not sure if I specifically mentioned Liuzzi. However, given the situation at Red Bull, I think it is only fair to consider Klien and Liuzzi as one and the same driver for the purposes of this comp. Just as Davidson was automatically subed in for Sato in Malaysia. This will go for any other driver who misses a race due to illness or injury for the rest of the year. However if a driver gets sacked, such as the rumor around Villenueve, then you will need to change that driver at the next change opportunity.

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Posted 26 March 2005 - 17:00

Originally posted by garth_b


I am not sure if I specifically mentioned Liuzzi. However, given the situation at Red Bull, I think it is only fair to consider Klien and Liuzzi as one and the same driver for the purposes of this comp. Just as Davidson was automatically subed in for Sato in Malaysia. This will go for any other driver who misses a race due to illness or injury for the rest of the year. However if a driver gets sacked, such as the rumor around Villenueve, then you will need to change that driver at the next change opportunity.


Well, not to be picky, and of course you have the last word. But if Klien goes surely he is being dropped like Villeneuve might be?

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Posted 28 March 2005 - 00:53

29th so far, it's ok, with the ferrari's not doing too well, I've lost some points, I think with so many races to go, it's been a good start, having modified my pizza for the games 2005 regulations, there's more to come.

#21 garth_b

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 00:47

Originally posted by BorderReiver


Well, not to be picky, and of course you have the last word. But if Klien goes surely he is being dropped like Villeneuve might be?


Normally I would say that Liuzzi replacing Klien is the same as Villenueve being dropped. However the rumor is that Klien and Liuzzi will be alternating as race day drivers. I guess we will have to see how it pans out and take the results as provisional until we know for sure.

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Posted 31 March 2005 - 05:17

Garth, did u receive my PM?

I still think my engine/chasis result is missing 100 points. :|

#23 garth_b

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Posted 31 March 2005 - 07:39

Yes, I did receive your PM. I haven't got around to checking your score yet but I will over the next 24 hours and advise. Sorry for the delay, I have been very busy at work.

#24 garth_b

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Posted 31 March 2005 - 11:48

Originally posted by Flash
Garth, did u receive my PM?

I still think my engine/chasis result is missing 100 points. :|


Traced the problem to scoring for Montoya. For some reason he was pointing to Sato so yyou missed out on 125 points in Malaysia. I will repost the results for Both Australia and Malaysia after Bahrain.

Your sscores for Aussie and Malaysia will be adjusted to:

						Aus		Mal

Mon					 125		129

Fis					 155		 64

Fri					 103		 -6

Mer					 128		129

Toy					 121		135

Mic					  25		 35

Budget Penalty			  0		  0

Patubela Racing Team	657		486


#25 Flash

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Posted 31 March 2005 - 15:21

Thanks a lot Garth, I knew something was wrong.

I really appreciate your effort, I know it must be a lot of work for you to run this game. :)

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Posted 01 April 2005 - 16:08

I can't believe I'm 6th!!!

#27 Jordan191

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Posted 03 April 2005 - 04:17

5th and Villeneuve is weighing me down :|